Re: [users] Make it remember printer settings!
On Monday 13 March 2006 17:17, Andy Pepperdine wrote: [..] > In my case, I use A4 sheets in a HP laserjet printer with Suse 10.0 either > on a desktop machine with the printer attached to its parallel port, or > from a laptop across a network through CUPS on the desktop. Same printer > connected the same way in both cases. If I print an old document, > everything works fine from either machine. If I print a new text document > from the laptop it is also OK. > > But when I print a _new_document_ from the desktop it reverts to US letter, > and then only after several seconds of cpu bound thinking by both cupsd and > soffice.bin. After that the two seem to loop together for ever. Only by > closing OOo completely does it come out of it. (I used top to see what was > using cpu.) None of the log files seem to show any problems. > > At first I thought it must be cups or something, but no other application > shows anything like these symptoms; so I'm moving towards thinking it is > the way OOo interrogates cups to get printer information. > > Has anyone else seen anything similar? This is now solved. Explicitly selecting the driver when setting up the printer, rather than taking Suse's default for that printer, has cured this strange behaviour. Not OOo at all. -- Andy Pepperdine - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Make it remember printer settings!
On Monday 13 March 2006 17:59, John Jason Jordan wrote: > Spadmin is evidently not available for Ubuntu-64 Breezy. I typed "spadmin" > from a command line and got "command not found," so it's not installed. I > tried to install it, but it is not listed in Synaptic. spadmin is usually not on the path; but is in the same place where all the other binaries are. If you say which soffice you will know where openoffice is found on the path. This will almost certainly be a link. Follow this link (and further if necessary) and you'll get to the directory where they all are. spadmin will be there too; and you can use the full name to invoke it. It must be run as root. -- Andy Pepperdine On this mailing list help is provided by volunteers. Please subscribe to the mailing list to see all the replies to a query, and reply only to the mailing list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] For FAQ, userguide, see: http://documentation.openoffice.org/ For more information about the OOo licence here: http://www.openoffice.org/license.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Make it remember printer settings!
On Monday 13 March 2006 18:57, John Jason Jordan wrote: > In a terminal I typed "which soffice" and nothing happened. No error > messages, nada. It was like giving a command that executed without > problems. It did not tell me the path to spadmin. > > I did a search from / and found: > > file:///home/jjj/.openoffice/1.1.3/spadmin > file:///usr/lib/openoffice2/program/spadmin ^ Probably this one, if you have OOo 2.x. You might also get a hint by checking the paths in Tools->Options->OpenOffice.org->Paths for ones which start the same way. > file:///usr/lib/openoffice2/program/spadmin.bin > file:///usr/lib/openoffice/program/spadmin.bin > file:///usr/lib/openoffice2/program/spadmin.bin.real > > So evidently it is there. Which is the executable? -- Andy Pepperdine On this mailing list help is provided by volunteers. Please subscribe to the mailing list to see all the replies to a query, and reply only to the mailing list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] For FAQ, userguide, see: http://documentation.openoffice.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Make it remember printer settings!
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:16:34 + Andy Pepperdine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 13 March 2006 17:59, John Jason Jordan wrote: > > Spadmin is evidently not available for Ubuntu-64 Breezy. I typed "spadmin" > > from a command line and got "command not found," so it's not installed. I > > tried to install it, but it is not listed in Synaptic. > > spadmin is usually not on the path; but is in the same place where all the > other binaries are. > > If you say > which soffice > you will know where openoffice is found on the path. This will almost > certainly be a link. Follow this link (and further if necessary) and you'll > get to the directory where they all are. spadmin will be there too; and you > can use the full name to invoke it. It must be run as root. Thanks, but I must be too stupid to figure this out. In a terminal I typed "which soffice" and nothing happened. No error messages, nada. It was like giving a command that executed without problems. It did not tell me the path to spadmin. I did a search from / and found: file:///home/jjj/.openoffice/1.1.3/spadmin file:///usr/lib/openoffice2/program/spadmin file:///usr/lib/openoffice2/program/spadmin.bin file:///usr/lib/openoffice/program/spadmin.bin file:///usr/lib/openoffice2/program/spadmin.bin.real So evidently it is there. Which is the executable? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Make it remember printer settings!
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:49:07 +0100 Philipp Lohmann - Sun Germany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 1) When I go to print a document to any of my big Laserjets, half the > > features of the printer are not listed in the print dialog box, even > > obvious things like paper tray selection. If I print from Scribus they > > ARE listed, and they are all listed in CUPS too, so the problem is > > somewhere in OO.o. > > OOo actually cares about the constraints in the PostScript Printer > Descriptions (PPD) it gets from CUPS. Example: before you can actually > use Tray 2 many a PPD will state that Tray 2 is optional because tray 2 > is actually a hardware option that may or may not be installed. > Therefore the corresponding PPD will have a constrain that says one can > select Tray 2 only if it is installed. You can do this by switching to > the "device" tab page in the printer properties dialog. Only after you > have enabled said Tray 2 (in our example) you can select Tray 2 as > output bin. But the features ARE "turned on" in CUPS. Proof of this is that the features are available in the Scribus print dialog box. That they are avalable in CUPS and Scribus is also proof that the correct PPD file is installed. > The same is true for many paper formats; they are constrained to the > corresponding input tray being installed. > > If you cannot select a feature then this is usually due to the PPD that > OOo gets from CUPS. But I CAN select the paper trays in other applications. > > 2) Of the few features that do appear in the print dialog box (e.g., > > duplex v. simplex, PostScript level, color v. grayscale, color depth), > > none are "sticky." Every time I go to print a document the dialog box > > comes up simplex, 24-bit color from driver, etc., so I have to go > > through and reset them to 8-bit grayscale, duplex, PostScript level 2, > > and so on. This is so annoying. Why can't it remember at least how I > > last printed this document as part of the document file? And why can't > > I set these things in Preferences somewhere? > > Use the spadmin program for that purpose which is OOo's printer > administration utility. Spadmin is evidently not available for Ubuntu-64 Breezy. I typed "spadmin" from a command line and got "command not found," so it's not installed. I tried to install it, but it is not listed in Synaptic. Thanks for the suggestions, but evidently OO.o is not CUPS enabled. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Make it remember printer settings!
On Monday 13 March 2006 16:03, John Jason Jordan wrote: > OO.o 1.93.129 on Ubuntu-64 Breezy (no, it can't be upgraded because > no .deb files exist yet) > > This has been driving me crazy for a long time and it's time to bitch > about it. > > 1) When I go to print a document to any of my big Laserjets, half the > features of the printer are not listed in the print dialog box, even > obvious things like paper tray selection. If I print from Scribus they > ARE listed, and they are all listed in CUPS too, so the problem is > somewhere in OO.o. > > 2) Of the few features that do appear in the print dialog box (e.g., > duplex v. simplex, PostScript level, color v. grayscale, color depth), > none are "sticky." Every time I go to print a document the dialog box > comes up simplex, 24-bit color from driver, etc., so I have to go > through and reset them to 8-bit grayscale, duplex, PostScript level 2, > and so on. This is so annoying. Why can't it remember at least how I > last printed this document as part of the document file? And why can't > I set these things in Preferences somewhere? > > Or have I missed something? I'm also wrestling with a problem that is similar and may be related, but may not. In my case, I use A4 sheets in a HP laserjet printer with Suse 10.0 either on a desktop machine with the printer attached to its parallel port, or from a laptop across a network through CUPS on the desktop. Same printer connected the same way in both cases. If I print an old document, everything works fine from either machine. If I print a new text document from the laptop it is also OK. But when I print a _new_document_ from the desktop it reverts to US letter, and then only after several seconds of cpu bound thinking by both cupsd and soffice.bin. After that the two seem to loop together for ever. Only by closing OOo completely does it come out of it. (I used top to see what was using cpu.) None of the log files seem to show any problems. At first I thought it must be cups or something, but no other application shows anything like these symptoms; so I'm moving towards thinking it is the way OOo interrogates cups to get printer information. Has anyone else seen anything similar? -- Andy Pepperdine On this mailing list help is provided by volunteers. Please subscribe to the mailing list to see all the replies to a query, and reply only to the mailing list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] For FAQ, userguide, see: http://documentation.openoffice.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Make it remember printer settings!
John Jason Jordan wrote: OO.o 1.93.129 on Ubuntu-64 Breezy (no, it can't be upgraded because no .deb files exist yet) This has been driving me crazy for a long time and it's time to bitch about it. 1) When I go to print a document to any of my big Laserjets, half the features of the printer are not listed in the print dialog box, even obvious things like paper tray selection. If I print from Scribus they ARE listed, and they are all listed in CUPS too, so the problem is somewhere in OO.o. OOo actually cares about the constraints in the PostScript Printer Descriptions (PPD) it gets from CUPS. Example: before you can actually use Tray 2 many a PPD will state that Tray 2 is optional because tray 2 is actually a hardware option that may or may not be installed. Therefore the corresponding PPD will have a constrain that says one can select Tray 2 only if it is installed. You can do this by switching to the "device" tab page in the printer properties dialog. Only after you have enabled said Tray 2 (in our example) you can select Tray 2 as output bin. The same is true for many paper formats; they are constrained to the corresponding input tray being installed. If you cannot select a feature then this is usually due to the PPD that OOo gets from CUPS. 2) Of the few features that do appear in the print dialog box (e.g., duplex v. simplex, PostScript level, color v. grayscale, color depth), none are "sticky." Every time I go to print a document the dialog box comes up simplex, 24-bit color from driver, etc., so I have to go through and reset them to 8-bit grayscale, duplex, PostScript level 2, and so on. This is so annoying. Why can't it remember at least how I last printed this document as part of the document file? And why can't I set these things in Preferences somewhere? Use the spadmin program for that purpose which is OOo's printer administration utility. Just my 2 cents, pl -- If you give someone a program, you will frustrate them for a day; if you teach them how to program, you will frustrate them for a lifetime. -- Author unknown - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[users] Make it remember printer settings!
OO.o 1.93.129 on Ubuntu-64 Breezy (no, it can't be upgraded because no .deb files exist yet) This has been driving me crazy for a long time and it's time to bitch about it. 1) When I go to print a document to any of my big Laserjets, half the features of the printer are not listed in the print dialog box, even obvious things like paper tray selection. If I print from Scribus they ARE listed, and they are all listed in CUPS too, so the problem is somewhere in OO.o. 2) Of the few features that do appear in the print dialog box (e.g., duplex v. simplex, PostScript level, color v. grayscale, color depth), none are "sticky." Every time I go to print a document the dialog box comes up simplex, 24-bit color from driver, etc., so I have to go through and reset them to 8-bit grayscale, duplex, PostScript level 2, and so on. This is so annoying. Why can't it remember at least how I last printed this document as part of the document file? And why can't I set these things in Preferences somewhere? Or have I missed something? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
