Re: [users] Paste without formatting
James Wilde wrote: On Nov 9, 2010, at 02:51 , Daniel Lewis wrote: Brian Barker wrote: At 19:59 08/11/2010 +0100, James Wilde wrote: Mac OSX 10.6.4 OOo 3.2.1 I can paste with the format applicable at the point of entry if I use Cmd+Alt+Shift+V, as opposed to Cmd+V which pastes the incoming text in the format from which it came. I'm slightly surprised by this. The Windows keyboard shortcut is Ctrl+Shift+V, so I'd imagine the Mac one would be Cmd+Shift+V - with no Alt. I doubt that Cmd + Alt + Shift + V is the proper combination also. On my MacBook, I use Cmd + Shift + V and then U to select Unformatted text from a list which includes up to several choices. Well, test it, Daniel, and see if you get the same effect. As I said in my reply to Brian, I got the tip either from OOo or LibO several weeks ago. I use it for pasting Mandarin and PinYin from various on-line dictionaries, like Google Translate, to some tables showing Mandarin, PinYin and English. The Mandarin symbols are nearly always about 24pt, and my table stores them as 14pt. The PinYin is grey Times New Roman and I want it in black Courier. You say up to several choices. What choices do you have other than Formatted Text (RTF) and Unformatted Text? //James The choices with Cmd + Shift + V depend upon the format of the copied material in Writer. When I copied this email into a Writer document, I had two choices: HTML and Unformatted Text. When I copied material from one Writer document to another, I had four choices: OpenOffice.org, Formatted Text (RTF), HTML, Unformatted Text, and DDE link. I tried the Cmd + Alt + Shift + V on my MacBook. It does work as you described using OOo from the OOo website. Dan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Paste without formatting
Well, not really. Paste with the format applicable at the point of entry. Mac OSX 10.6.4 OOo 3.2.1 I can paste with the format applicable at the point of entry if I use Cmd+Alt+Shift+V, as opposed to Cmd+V which pastes the incoming text in the format from which it came. I'd like to make the pasting of unformatted text the default, and either reverse the system so that Cmd+Alt+*Shift+V uses the formatting at the origin, or so that I have to use the menu and Paste Special/Formatted Text to do so. I don't mind which. It's so rare that I paste with the original formatting. To make it quite clear what I am trying to do: I copy text from one application where the text is in, say, Arial 24pt. I want to paste it into a document which is formatted for Courier 12pt. If I copy with Cmd+C and paste with Cmd+V I get the text in Arial 24pt - NOT what I want. If I paste with Cmd+Alt+Shift+V, I get the inputted text in Courier 12pt. I would like to change the effect of Cmd+V so that it pastes the text in Courier 12pt. I found a method in the archives which involved creating a macro and applying it to Cmd+V, but it does not appear to work, even after a restart of OOo. I'm sure I saw a reference to this recently - one which actually gave me the knowledge of the Cmd+Alt+Shift+V method - but I can't find it now. Can someone help please? TIA //James smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: [users] Paste without formatting
At 19:59 08/11/2010 +0100, James Wilde wrote: Mac OSX 10.6.4 OOo 3.2.1 I can paste with the format applicable at the point of entry if I use Cmd+Alt+Shift+V, as opposed to Cmd+V which pastes the incoming text in the format from which it came. I'm slightly surprised by this. The Windows keyboard shortcut is Ctrl+Shift+V, so I'd imagine the Mac one would be Cmd+Shift+V - with no Alt. I'd like to make the pasting of unformatted text the default, and either reverse the system so that Cmd+Alt+Shift+V uses the formatting at the origin, ... I have version 3.1.1 for Windows XP, so you may have to work out how all this applies to your Mac version. You can change the effect of keyboard shortcuts at Tools | Customize... | Keyboard. Under Functions | Category, select Edit. Under Functions | Function, select Paste or Paste Special, as the case may be. Under Shortcut keys, now select the key combination you wish to be assigned to this function. Click Modify to make the change. Note that at the top right of the Customize panel you can choose whether you wish the shortcut to apply to OpenOffice generally or only in Writer, Calc, and so on. (You get to see only the component for the type of document you currently have open.) You will see that Ctrl+V is defined for OpenOffice generally but that Ctrl+Shift+V is defined separately for Writer and Calc (and others?). You will have to decide exactly how you want to reconfigure this. Note also that Paste Special does not paste unformatted, but merely gives you this choice as a separate step in its dialogue box. I don't know any way to avoid that. I trust this helps. Brian Barker - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Paste without formatting
Brian Barker wrote: At 19:59 08/11/2010 +0100, James Wilde wrote: Mac OSX 10.6.4 OOo 3.2.1 I can paste with the format applicable at the point of entry if I use Cmd+Alt+Shift+V, as opposed to Cmd+V which pastes the incoming text in the format from which it came. I'm slightly surprised by this. The Windows keyboard shortcut is Ctrl+Shift+V, so I'd imagine the Mac one would be Cmd+Shift+V - with no Alt. I doubt that Cmd + Alt + Shift + V is the proper combination also. On my MacBook, I use Cmd + Shift + V and then U to select Unformatted text from a list which includes up to several choices. I'd like to make the pasting of unformatted text the default, and either reverse the system so that Cmd+Alt+Shift+V uses the formatting at the origin, ... I have version 3.1.1 for Windows XP, so you may have to work out how all this applies to your Mac version. You can change the effect of keyboard shortcuts at Tools | Customize... | Keyboard. Under Functions | Category, select Edit. Under Functions | Function, select Paste or Paste Special, as the case may be. Under Shortcut keys, now select the key combination you wish to be assigned to this function. Click Modify to make the change. Note that at the top right of the Customize panel you can choose whether you wish the shortcut to apply to OpenOffice generally or only in Writer, Calc, and so on. (You get to see only the component for the type of document you currently have open.) You will see that Ctrl+V is defined for OpenOffice generally but that Ctrl+Shift+V is defined separately for Writer and Calc (and others?). You will have to decide exactly how you want to reconfigure this. Note also that Paste Special does not paste unformatted, but merely gives you this choice as a separate step in its dialogue box. I don't know any way to avoid that. I trust this helps. Brian Barker - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Paste without formatting
On Nov 8, 2010, at 23:00 , Brian Barker wrote: At 19:59 08/11/2010 +0100, James Wilde wrote: Mac OSX 10.6.4 OOo 3.2.1 I can paste with the format applicable at the point of entry if I use Cmd+Alt+Shift+V, as opposed to Cmd+V which pastes the incoming text in the format from which it came. I'm slightly surprised by this. The Windows keyboard shortcut is Ctrl+Shift+V, so I'd imagine the Mac one would be Cmd+Shift+V - with no Alt. On my Mac the keyboard shortcut Cmd+Shift+V brings up the Paste Special window where I can choose between Formatted Text (RTF) and Unformatted Text. That's an extra manoeuvre and less effective. I got the Cmd+Alt+Shift+V from an aside in a message here a few weeks ago, and that goes straight to the pasting of unformatted text. I've used it successfully ever since. Unfortunately I've not been able to find the reference and don't remember what the thread concerned. And to add to the problem, it could have been over on the new LibO site. :( (Come to think of it, I think I'll throw the question at them, too.) I'd like to make the pasting of unformatted text the default, and either reverse the system so that Cmd+Alt+Shift+V uses the formatting at the origin, ... I have version 3.1.1 for Windows XP, so you may have to work out how all this applies to your Mac version. You can change the effect of keyboard shortcuts at Tools | Customize... | Keyboard. Under Functions | Category, select Edit. Under Functions | Function, select Paste or Paste Special, as the case may be. Under Shortcut keys, now select the key combination you wish to be assigned to this function. Click Modify to make the change. RTB STM BTTS! I can even go back into Tools/Customize/Keyboard and see that beside Cmd+V it says Paste Unformatted Text (unformatted text was suddenly one of the options under the Edit category) but just the same it doesn't do it. I've also tried modifying my macro from being a macro of clicking the Edit/Paste Special/Unformatted Text/OK to being Cmd+Alt+Shift+V, but it still doesn't work. Note that at the top right of the Customize panel you can choose whether you wish the shortcut to apply to OpenOffice generally or only in Writer, Calc, and so on. ... Got that. It's just Writer I need to change. I use it so often there. In Calc I can put up with the four-key shortcut. Note also that Paste Special does not paste unformatted, but merely gives you this choice as a separate step in its dialogue box. I don't know any way to avoid that. Got that, too. I trust this helps. Unlike most of your input, Brian, unfortunately not. At least not yet. :( //James smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: [users] Paste without formatting
On Nov 9, 2010, at 02:51 , Daniel Lewis wrote: Brian Barker wrote: At 19:59 08/11/2010 +0100, James Wilde wrote: Mac OSX 10.6.4 OOo 3.2.1 I can paste with the format applicable at the point of entry if I use Cmd+Alt+Shift+V, as opposed to Cmd+V which pastes the incoming text in the format from which it came. I'm slightly surprised by this. The Windows keyboard shortcut is Ctrl+Shift+V, so I'd imagine the Mac one would be Cmd+Shift+V - with no Alt. I doubt that Cmd + Alt + Shift + V is the proper combination also. On my MacBook, I use Cmd + Shift + V and then U to select Unformatted text from a list which includes up to several choices. Well, test it, Daniel, and see if you get the same effect. As I said in my reply to Brian, I got the tip either from OOo or LibO several weeks ago. I use it for pasting Mandarin and PinYin from various on-line dictionaries, like Google Translate, to some tables showing Mandarin, PinYin and English. The Mandarin symbols are nearly always about 24pt, and my table stores them as 14pt. The PinYin is grey Times New Roman and I want it in black Courier. You say up to several choices. What choices do you have other than Formatted Text (RTF) and Unformatted Text? //James smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
