[users] Re: How to sort mixed alpha & numbers?

2009-09-17 Thread NoOp
On 09/15/2009 07:34 PM, jomali wrote:
> Put the formula
> =MID(A1;FIND(" ";A1);LEN(A1))+0
> in Cell B1.
> Extend down as far as your data in Column A goes.
> Sort on column B
> Voila!
> 
> John

Thank you, thank you, thank you! :-)




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Re: [users] Re: How to sort mixed alpha & numbers?

2009-09-16 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Gary,

NoOp wrote (17-9-2009 2:10)

On 09/15/2009 07:34 PM, jomali wrote:

Put the formula
=MID(A1;FIND(" ";A1);LEN(A1))+0
in Cell B1.
Extend down as far as your data in Column A goes.
Sort on column B
Voila!



I'm having trouble figuring that out... wouldn't be the first time :-)
Would it be OK if I emailed you the spreadsheet so that you can try with
the original?


I tried and it does work perfect. (Better at RC ?? ;-) )
Alternative:
  =VALUE(MID(A1;FIND(" ";A1);LEN(A1)))

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[users] Re: How to sort mixed alpha & numbers?

2009-09-16 Thread NoOp
On 09/16/2009 05:31 PM, jomali wrote:
> Sure, go ahead. I'd be glad to look at it.
> 
> John

Thanks. It's on it's way (only 22.1KB) - email subject is "Re: How to
sort mixed alpha & numbers?"

Gary


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Re: [users] Re: How to sort mixed alpha & numbers?

2009-09-16 Thread jomali
Sure, go ahead. I'd be glad to look at it.

John

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 8:10 PM, NoOp  wrote:

> On 09/15/2009 07:34 PM, jomali wrote:
> > Put the formula
> > =MID(A1;FIND(" ";A1);LEN(A1))+0
> > in Cell B1.
> > Extend down as far as your data in Column A goes.
> > Sort on column B
> > Voila!
> >
> > John
>
> I'm having trouble figuring that out... wouldn't be the first time :-)
> Would it be OK if I emailed you the spreadsheet so that you can try with
> the original?
>
> Gary
>
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[users] Re: How to sort mixed alpha & numbers?

2009-09-16 Thread NoOp
On 09/15/2009 07:34 PM, jomali wrote:
> Put the formula
> =MID(A1;FIND(" ";A1);LEN(A1))+0
> in Cell B1.
> Extend down as far as your data in Column A goes.
> Sort on column B
> Voila!
> 
> John

I'm having trouble figuring that out... wouldn't be the first time :-)
Would it be OK if I emailed you the spreadsheet so that you can try with
the original?

Gary


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[users] Re: How to sort mixed alpha & numbers?

2009-09-15 Thread Bob Estes

NoOp wrote:

On 09/12/2009 01:51 AM, Bob Estes wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 09/09/2009 08:35 PM, NoOp wrote:

I've tried every combination that I can think of (even formating cells
to text) and still cannot figure out how to sort via a column with data
like this:

Sail Number
USA 84
USA 604
USA 275
USA 35024
USA 103
USA 116
USA 38747
USA 72
USA 40
USA 87549
USA 41001
USA 52
USA 28719

Any suggestions?

Thanks to all that offered suggestions... I'll have to give them a try
when I'm back from sailing on Monday.

Gary (NoOp)
I found a way that works reasonably well.  First, I copied the list into 
column B of a Calc spreadsheet with each entry on its own line.  I then 
deleted the USA from each row and reinserted it in column A.  As part of 
the test, I added a couple of entries each for UK and AUS numbers.  I 
then selected the data to be sorted.  I then selected "DATA/SORT, Sort 
by column A then by column B".  On the options tab, I then selected 
"Enable natural sort".  Clicking on OK sorted the data first by country 
and then by number.  This was an alphabetical sort instead of an ASCII 
sort which is what I think you wanted.  This sounds like a long 
procedure, but it took me longer to write up the explanation than it did 
to do the sort.


I hope this helps.

Bob


Thanks all. The regatta is over so now I'll have time to experiment.
What I did (the night before the regatta) was copy the data from a web
page (http://www.big-boat-series.com/Event/CurrentEntries.aspx) and
pasted into Calc. I had hoped to sort by sail numbers so that I'd have
an easy reference list as the boats come around my marks (I work
on-water Race Committee).
Turns out I survived without it, but I still want to figure out the sort
puzzle for future situations. A 96 boat list isn't that hard to
manipulate, but anything larger might require a macro if I can't figure
out a simple way to do it with the sort feature.


If all the sail numbers are from the same country (USA) it's very 
simple.  Copy the sail numbers into column two with each sail number in 
its own row.  Using the find/replace/all find "USA" and replace it with 
nothing.  This will delete all instances of "USA".  Next, insert "USA" 
in column one next to the first number.  Select all of the cells in 
column one from the first number to the last number including both the 
first and the last cell.  Select Fill/Down and "USA" will be inserted 
into all of the cells.  It gets a little more complicated if you have 
entries from more than one country.  You'll have to repeat the procedure 
for each country code.   Now you can do the sort.  The most time 
consuming part of this procedure is copying each sail number into its 
own row.  Maybe someone else has a fast way of doing that.


I hope this helps.

Bob


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Re: [users] Re: How to sort mixed alpha & numbers?

2009-09-15 Thread jomali
Put the formula
=MID(A1;FIND(" ";A1);LEN(A1))+0
in Cell B1.
Extend down as far as your data in Column A goes.
Sort on column B
Voila!

John



On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 6:30 PM, NoOp  wrote:

> On 09/12/2009 01:51 AM, Bob Estes wrote:
> > NoOp wrote:
> >> On 09/09/2009 08:35 PM, NoOp wrote:
> >>> I've tried every combination that I can think of (even formating cells
> >>> to text) and still cannot figure out how to sort via a column with data
> >>> like this:
> >>>
> >>> Sail Number
> >>> USA 84
> >>> USA 604
> >>> USA 275
> >>> USA 35024
> >>> USA 103
> >>> USA 116
> >>> USA 38747
> >>> USA 72
> >>> USA 40
> >>> USA 87549
> >>> USA 41001
> >>> USA 52
> >>> USA 28719
> >>>
> >>> Any suggestions?
> >>
> >> Thanks to all that offered suggestions... I'll have to give them a try
> >> when I'm back from sailing on Monday.
> >>
> >> Gary (NoOp)
> >
> > I found a way that works reasonably well.  First, I copied the list into
> > column B of a Calc spreadsheet with each entry on its own line.  I then
> > deleted the USA from each row and reinserted it in column A.  As part of
> > the test, I added a couple of entries each for UK and AUS numbers.  I
> > then selected the data to be sorted.  I then selected "DATA/SORT, Sort
> > by column A then by column B".  On the options tab, I then selected
> > "Enable natural sort".  Clicking on OK sorted the data first by country
> > and then by number.  This was an alphabetical sort instead of an ASCII
> > sort which is what I think you wanted.  This sounds like a long
> > procedure, but it took me longer to write up the explanation than it did
> > to do the sort.
> >
> > I hope this helps.
> >
> > Bob
>
> Thanks all. The regatta is over so now I'll have time to experiment.
> What I did (the night before the regatta) was copy the data from a web
> page (http://www.big-boat-series.com/Event/CurrentEntries.aspx) and
> pasted into Calc. I had hoped to sort by sail numbers so that I'd have
> an easy reference list as the boats come around my marks (I work
> on-water Race Committee).
> Turns out I survived without it, but I still want to figure out the sort
> puzzle for future situations. A 96 boat list isn't that hard to
> manipulate, but anything larger might require a macro if I can't figure
> out a simple way to do it with the sort feature.
>
>
>
>
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[users] Re: How to sort mixed alpha & numbers?

2009-09-15 Thread NoOp
On 09/12/2009 01:51 AM, Bob Estes wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
>> On 09/09/2009 08:35 PM, NoOp wrote:
>>> I've tried every combination that I can think of (even formating cells
>>> to text) and still cannot figure out how to sort via a column with data
>>> like this:
>>>
>>> Sail Number
>>> USA 84
>>> USA 604
>>> USA 275
>>> USA 35024
>>> USA 103
>>> USA 116
>>> USA 38747
>>> USA 72
>>> USA 40
>>> USA 87549
>>> USA 41001
>>> USA 52
>>> USA 28719
>>>
>>> Any suggestions?
>> 
>> Thanks to all that offered suggestions... I'll have to give them a try
>> when I'm back from sailing on Monday.
>> 
>> Gary (NoOp)
> 
> I found a way that works reasonably well.  First, I copied the list into 
> column B of a Calc spreadsheet with each entry on its own line.  I then 
> deleted the USA from each row and reinserted it in column A.  As part of 
> the test, I added a couple of entries each for UK and AUS numbers.  I 
> then selected the data to be sorted.  I then selected "DATA/SORT, Sort 
> by column A then by column B".  On the options tab, I then selected 
> "Enable natural sort".  Clicking on OK sorted the data first by country 
> and then by number.  This was an alphabetical sort instead of an ASCII 
> sort which is what I think you wanted.  This sounds like a long 
> procedure, but it took me longer to write up the explanation than it did 
> to do the sort.
> 
> I hope this helps.
> 
> Bob

Thanks all. The regatta is over so now I'll have time to experiment.
What I did (the night before the regatta) was copy the data from a web
page (http://www.big-boat-series.com/Event/CurrentEntries.aspx) and
pasted into Calc. I had hoped to sort by sail numbers so that I'd have
an easy reference list as the boats come around my marks (I work
on-water Race Committee).
Turns out I survived without it, but I still want to figure out the sort
puzzle for future situations. A 96 boat list isn't that hard to
manipulate, but anything larger might require a macro if I can't figure
out a simple way to do it with the sort feature.





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[users] Re: How to sort mixed alpha & numbers?

2009-09-12 Thread Bob Estes

NoOp wrote:

On 09/09/2009 08:35 PM, NoOp wrote:

I've tried every combination that I can think of (even formating cells
to text) and still cannot figure out how to sort via a column with data
like this:

Sail Number
USA 84
USA 604
USA 275
USA 35024
USA 103
USA 116
USA 38747
USA 72
USA 40
USA 87549
USA 41001
USA 52
USA 28719

Any suggestions?


Thanks to all that offered suggestions... I'll have to give them a try
when I'm back from sailing on Monday.

Gary (NoOp)


I found a way that works reasonably well.  First, I copied the list into 
column B of a Calc spreadsheet with each entry on its own line.  I then 
deleted the USA from each row and reinserted it in column A.  As part of 
the test, I added a couple of entries each for UK and AUS numbers.  I 
then selected the data to be sorted.  I then selected "DATA/SORT, Sort 
by column A then by column B".  On the options tab, I then selected 
"Enable natural sort".  Clicking on OK sorted the data first by country 
and then by number.  This was an alphabetical sort instead of an ASCII 
sort which is what I think you wanted.  This sounds like a long 
procedure, but it took me longer to write up the explanation than it did 
to do the sort.


I hope this helps.

Bob


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[users] Re: How to sort mixed alpha & numbers?

2009-09-11 Thread NoOp
On 09/09/2009 08:35 PM, NoOp wrote:
> I've tried every combination that I can think of (even formating cells
> to text) and still cannot figure out how to sort via a column with data
> like this:
> 
> Sail Number
> USA 84
> USA 604
> USA 275
> USA 35024
> USA 103
> USA 116
> USA 38747
> USA 72
> USA 40
> USA 87549
> USA 41001
> USA 52
> USA 28719
> 
> Any suggestions?

Thanks to all that offered suggestions... I'll have to give them a try
when I'm back from sailing on Monday.

Gary (NoOp)





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[users] Re: How to sort mixed alpha & numbers?

2009-09-10 Thread Twayne
"NoOp"  wrote in message
news:h89s6m$2t...@ger.gmane.org
> I've tried every combination that I can think of (even formating cells
> to text) and still cannot figure out how to sort via a column with
> data like this:
>
> Sail Number
> USA 84
> USA 604
> USA 275
> USA 35024
> USA 103
> USA 116
> USA 38747
> USA 72
> USA 40
> USA 87549
> USA 41001
> USA 52
> USA 28719
>
> Any suggestions?

Hmm, I was sure I'd done that before, but ... seems to not work for me; 
so much for my gray matter!  If only machines would do what we MEANT to 
do, not what we TOLD them to do!!  lol  Maybe just some thinking out 
loud will help you think of something:

 Right now it's doing a "machine sort", sorting on the first number and 
ignoring the length of the whole number.  So if all the sail numbers 
were the same length, it would do what you need.  I thought there would 
be a way to force the display of every number to be the same length 
using leading zeroes but I can't find a way to do that, even using 
currency or Custom.

A reasonably simple macro could be created though to make every number 
the same length as long as the total length were known to be 5 (or 
whatever).  Or enter them all originally as 5 digits, using leading 
zeroes.  00084, 00604, etc..

Better, a formula could be used to pad them out to 5 digits. It would be 
a long IF statement, one section per length that could exist, but that 
would have the advantage of maybe creating the leading zero list and 
formulae in hidden columns for the final product.
pseudo-code:   (If length=2, 000##, else nothing; (if length=3,00###, 
else nothing, etc.. (...(...(...)
   Now sort, then remove leading zeroes, display list.

Or, redo the list by length. Have a column of 2 digits, another 3 
digits, another for 4, 5, up to whatever te max is. The re-assemble 
after sorting into one list.  More complex formulae though and a pain to 
keep track of.

I have a feeling though I'm simply missing the right Calc setting to 
make it sort properly.  There about has to be one.  Guess I'll have to 
sit back and watch :-(

Twayne






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