Re: [users] Re: Re: Help with envelops/mailing labels
On 09/09/2010 20:44, James Wilde wrote: On Sep 8, 2010, at 20:32 , Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: How delightedly old fashioned :-) I just knock off a sheet or two of labels from a spreadsheet-based address book. That way the household management can help me with the envelopes. I like the casual way you say that, Peter. My experience with labels from a spreadsheet-based address book is anything but 'knocking it off'. It was a process of taking it step by step, repeating many of the steps, and in the end I had a document containing lables which could very nearly be used with out any editing, having in the process passed a stage where I had 280 identical labels, and another stage where I had 280 pages with 24 identical labels on each. In the end, as I say, I had 280 labels. One day, when I have a little time, I'm going to redo the whole process and document every step, and I'll post it somewhere for other idiots to follow. I've already done that. It's called Chapter 11 of the Writer Guide. Peter HB - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: Re: Help with envelops/mailing labels
On Sep 8, 2010, at 20:32 , Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: > > How delightedly old fashioned :-) I just knock off a sheet or two of labels > from a spreadsheet-based address book. That way the household management can > help me with the envelopes. > I like the casual way you say that, Peter. My experience with labels from a spreadsheet-based address book is anything but 'knocking it off'. It was a process of taking it step by step, repeating many of the steps, and in the end I had a document containing lables which could very nearly be used with out any editing, having in the process passed a stage where I had 280 identical labels, and another stage where I had 280 pages with 24 identical labels on each. In the end, as I say, I had 280 labels. One day, when I have a little time, I'm going to redo the whole process and document every step, and I'll post it somewhere for other idiots to follow. //James - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Re: Help with envelops/mailing labels
In news:4c8658fc.9090...@hbsys.plus.com, Peter Hillier-Brook typed: > On 07/09/2010 15:48, Maurice Batey wrote: >> On Mon, 06 Sep 2010 22:56:49 -0400, John Kaufmann wrote: >> >>> her approach says to make a template - take as much time >>> as you need to get it right - and then use it whenever >>> you need an envelope. >> >> That's exactly what I do - for the two sizes of envelope >> that I use. Works fine for me. > > It's also been my standard technique for over 20 years. It > seems too obvious and logical for some people. :-) > > Peter HB No offense, but I think you're overlooking the fact that most applications other than single users at home and ANY secretarial function needs more than 2 templates. You also have windowed envelopes that have to align, post cards, holiday specal sizes, marketing's insatable taste for uniqueness and many other things even in the smallest businesses. To hand someone a program that lets them specify an envelope name & size & position in the printer and then have it print anything but what they expected/selected, or could find in Help, is a very annoying prospect and very quickly puts a bad taste in a user's mouth. Plainly stated, the product does NOT do what it says it'll do without some technical expertise and computer knowledge, something your near minimum wage secretaries down in shipping, R&D, and whatever, are trying to get along with at all. HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: Re: Help with envelops/mailing labels
On 08/09/2010 17:39, Maurice Batey wrote: On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 16:50:02 -0400, John Kaufmann wrote: leaves us wondering what is the point of Writer's envelope provisions. I did try them, and found them cumbersome compared with the 'envelope template' approach. Perhaps in the meantime they have become slicker, but as I don't do a lot of envelope printing I'm happy to stay with the simple method for the time being, but I will - some time - take another look. (The 'envelope template' approach is particularly handy for Xmas envelopes. I just load a pack of envelopes into the printer, call up the template and address list, and Copy/Paste the addresses from one into the other, one by one.) How delightedly old fashioned :-) I just knock off a sheet or two of labels from a spreadsheet-based address book. That way the household management can help me with the envelopes. Incidentally I have just re-visited the stuff I wrote in Chapter 11 of the Writer Guide and I can't see the problem. Of course it's only useful for industrial envelope production: for a small number I still agree that the simple template method is preferable. There are so many different ways of skinning this particular cat that it has to come down to personal preferences, but expecting some developer(s) to change ancient code, that admittedly could have been written in a more helpful way, is just day-dreaming. Peter HB - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Re: Help with envelops/mailing labels
On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 16:50:02 -0400, John Kaufmann wrote: > leaves us wondering what is the point of Writer's envelope > provisions. I did try them, and found them cumbersome compared with the 'envelope template' approach. Perhaps in the meantime they have become slicker, but as I don't do a lot of envelope printing I'm happy to stay with the simple method for the time being, but I will - some time - take another look. (The 'envelope template' approach is particularly handy for Xmas envelopes. I just load a pack of envelopes into the printer, call up the template and address list, and Copy/Paste the addresses from one into the other, one by one.) -- /\/\aurice Linux Mandriva 2010.0 32-bit PowerPack (i686 kernel) KDE 4.4.3 Virtualbox 3.2.6 Firefox 3.6.8 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org