Re: [ovirt-users] How to disconnect hosted-engine NFS storage pool?

2014-09-23 Thread Doron Fediuck
Ryan- perfect :)
We'll take it from here.

Thanks,
Doron

- Original Message -
 From: Ryan Groten ryan.gro...@stantec.com
 To: Doron Fediuck dfedi...@redhat.com
 Cc: users@ovirt.org
 Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 8:03:30 PM
 Subject: RE: [ovirt-users]  How to disconnect hosted-engine NFS storage pool?
 
 Thanks, RFE created (I hope I did it right)
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1145259
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Doron Fediuck [mailto:dfedi...@redhat.com]
 Sent: September-21-14 6:57 AM
 To: Groten, Ryan
 Cc: users@ovirt.org
 Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] How to disconnect hosted-engine NFS storage pool?
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
  From: Ryan Groten ryan.gro...@stantec.com
  To: users@ovirt.org
  Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 1:51:13 AM
  Subject: [ovirt-users]  How to disconnect hosted-engine NFS storage pool?
  
  
  
  I want to unmounted the hosted-engine NFS share without affecting all
  the other running VMs on the host. When I shutdown the hosted-engine
  and enable global maintenance, the storage pool is still mounted and I
  can’t unmount it because the “sanlock” process is using it.
  
  
  
  Is there any way to disconnect the storage pool? There is a
  hosted-engine --connect-storage option but I see nothing to disconnect it.
  
  
  
  Thanks,
  
  Ryan
  
 
 Hi Ryan,
 Hosted engine does not unmount the share since there may be other VMs using
 it (as a general rule).
 However this may deserve some additional thoughts. Do you mind opening an RFE
 for it?
 
 
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Re: [ovirt-users] How to disconnect hosted-engine NFS storage pool?

2014-09-23 Thread Daniel Helgenberger
Hello Ryan and Doron,

Indeed a useful feature, I ran into this issue but forgot to mail. I
think in reality it is already best practice to put hosted engine on its
own NFS share (iSCSI LUN, Gluster-Vol in the future). Should we make
this an requirement?


On 23.09.2014 08:02, Doron Fediuck wrote:
 Ryan- perfect :)
 We'll take it from here.

 Thanks,
 Doron

 - Original Message -
 From: Ryan Groten ryan.gro...@stantec.com
 To: Doron Fediuck dfedi...@redhat.com
 Cc: users@ovirt.org
 Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 8:03:30 PM
 Subject: RE: [ovirt-users]  How to disconnect hosted-engine NFS storage pool?

 Thanks, RFE created (I hope I did it right)
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1145259


 -Original Message-
 From: Doron Fediuck [mailto:dfedi...@redhat.com]
 Sent: September-21-14 6:57 AM
 To: Groten, Ryan
 Cc: users@ovirt.org
 Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] How to disconnect hosted-engine NFS storage pool?



 - Original Message -
 From: Ryan Groten ryan.gro...@stantec.com
 To: users@ovirt.org
 Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 1:51:13 AM
 Subject: [ovirt-users]  How to disconnect hosted-engine NFS storage pool?



 I want to unmounted the hosted-engine NFS share without affecting all
 the other running VMs on the host. When I shutdown the hosted-engine
 and enable global maintenance, the storage pool is still mounted and I
 can’t unmount it because the “sanlock” process is using it.



 Is there any way to disconnect the storage pool? There is a
 hosted-engine --connect-storage option but I see nothing to disconnect it.



 Thanks,

 Ryan

 Hi Ryan,
 Hosted engine does not unmount the share since there may be other VMs using
 it (as a general rule).
 However this may deserve some additional thoughts. Do you mind opening an RFE
 for it?


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Re: [ovirt-users] How to disconnect hosted-engine NFS storage pool?

2014-09-23 Thread Doron Fediuck


- Original Message -
 From: Daniel Helgenberger daniel.helgenber...@m-box.de
 To: Doron Fediuck dfedi...@redhat.com, Ryan Groten 
 ryan.gro...@stantec.com
 Cc: users@ovirt.org
 Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 12:07:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] How to disconnect hosted-engine NFS storage pool?
 
 Hello Ryan and Doron,
 
 Indeed a useful feature, I ran into this issue but forgot to mail. I
 think in reality it is already best practice to put hosted engine on its
 own NFS share (iSCSI LUN, Gluster-Vol in the future). Should we make
 this an requirement?
 
 
 On 23.09.2014 08:02, Doron Fediuck wrote:
  Ryan- perfect :)
  We'll take it from here.
 
  Thanks,
  Doron
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Ryan Groten ryan.gro...@stantec.com
  To: Doron Fediuck dfedi...@redhat.com
  Cc: users@ovirt.org
  Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 8:03:30 PM
  Subject: RE: [ovirt-users]  How to disconnect hosted-engine NFS storage
  pool?
 
  Thanks, RFE created (I hope I did it right)
  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1145259
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Doron Fediuck [mailto:dfedi...@redhat.com]
  Sent: September-21-14 6:57 AM
  To: Groten, Ryan
  Cc: users@ovirt.org
  Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] How to disconnect hosted-engine NFS storage
  pool?
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Ryan Groten ryan.gro...@stantec.com
  To: users@ovirt.org
  Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 1:51:13 AM
  Subject: [ovirt-users]  How to disconnect hosted-engine NFS storage pool?
 
 
 
  I want to unmounted the hosted-engine NFS share without affecting all
  the other running VMs on the host. When I shutdown the hosted-engine
  and enable global maintenance, the storage pool is still mounted and I
  can’t unmount it because the “sanlock” process is using it.
 
 
 
  Is there any way to disconnect the storage pool? There is a
  hosted-engine --connect-storage option but I see nothing to disconnect
  it.
 
 
 
  Thanks,
 
  Ryan
 
  Hi Ryan,
  Hosted engine does not unmount the share since there may be other VMs
  using
  it (as a general rule).
  However this may deserve some additional thoughts. Do you mind opening an
  RFE
  for it?
 
 
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Hi Daniel,
we're trying to reduce the special features hosted engine has.
The ideal is to have it as every other VM, so I'd rather not
add requirements.

Doron
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Re: [ovirt-users] How to disconnect hosted-engine NFS storage pool?

2014-09-23 Thread Daniel Helgenberger

On 23.09.2014 11:51, Doron Fediuck wrote:

 - Original Message -
 From: Daniel Helgenberger daniel.helgenber...@m-box.de
 To: Doron Fediuck dfedi...@redhat.com, Ryan Groten 
 ryan.gro...@stantec.com
 Cc: users@ovirt.org
 Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 12:07:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] How to disconnect hosted-engine NFS storage pool?

 Hello Ryan and Doron,

 Indeed a useful feature, I ran into this issue but forgot to mail. I
 think in reality it is already best practice to put hosted engine on its
 own NFS share (iSCSI LUN, Gluster-Vol in the future). Should we make
 this an requirement?


 On 23.09.2014 08:02, Doron Fediuck wrote:
 Ryan- perfect :)
 We'll take it from here.

 Thanks,
 Doron

 - Original Message -
 From: Ryan Groten ryan.gro...@stantec.com
 To: Doron Fediuck dfedi...@redhat.com
 Cc: users@ovirt.org
 Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 8:03:30 PM
 Subject: RE: [ovirt-users]  How to disconnect hosted-engine NFS storage
 pool?

 Thanks, RFE created (I hope I did it right)
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1145259


 -Original Message-
 From: Doron Fediuck [mailto:dfedi...@redhat.com]
 Sent: September-21-14 6:57 AM
 To: Groten, Ryan
 Cc: users@ovirt.org
 Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] How to disconnect hosted-engine NFS storage
 pool?



 - Original Message -
 From: Ryan Groten ryan.gro...@stantec.com
 To: users@ovirt.org
 Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 1:51:13 AM
 Subject: [ovirt-users]  How to disconnect hosted-engine NFS storage pool?



 I want to unmounted the hosted-engine NFS share without affecting all
 the other running VMs on the host. When I shutdown the hosted-engine
 and enable global maintenance, the storage pool is still mounted and I
 can’t unmount it because the “sanlock” process is using it.



 Is there any way to disconnect the storage pool? There is a
 hosted-engine --connect-storage option but I see nothing to disconnect
 it.



 Thanks,

 Ryan

 Hi Ryan,
 Hosted engine does not unmount the share since there may be other VMs
 using
 it (as a general rule).
 However this may deserve some additional thoughts. Do you mind opening an
 RFE
 for it?


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 Hi Daniel,
 we're trying to reduce the special features hosted engine has.
 The ideal is to have it as every other VM, so I'd rather not
 add requirements.
Hello Doron,

makes absolutely sense (at least for developers who need to test things
a lot ;)
From a practical point of view though it will always a bit different as
long as you do not plan major design changes with hosted-engine because
of the potential lockout problem (engine-ha and shutdown / reboot, IIRC
right now no management other then migration from within ovirt). I know
you will have engine more 'manageable' form oVirt itself in the future,
but for the following reasons this is not very important for me:
Since in a worst case scenario engine is crustal getting tings working
again, 'users' (at least me) would tend to use a much simpler/robust
setup for engine storage (for instance, plain nfs, gluster 'local'
cluster - one replicated brick per host, no dm-multipath ect.). As for
the storage of 'production' VMs other points tend to be more crucial
(performance, multiple pathes, easy provision and administration ...).

My point being, common sense suggests you setup engine storage different
from 'production' storage.

Daniel
  

 Doron


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Re: [ovirt-users] How to disconnect hosted-engine NFS storage pool?

2014-09-22 Thread Groten, Ryan
Thanks, RFE created (I hope I did it right)
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1145259


-Original Message-
From: Doron Fediuck [mailto:dfedi...@redhat.com] 
Sent: September-21-14 6:57 AM
To: Groten, Ryan
Cc: users@ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] How to disconnect hosted-engine NFS storage pool?



- Original Message -
 From: Ryan Groten ryan.gro...@stantec.com
 To: users@ovirt.org
 Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 1:51:13 AM
 Subject: [ovirt-users]  How to disconnect hosted-engine NFS storage pool?
 
 
 
 I want to unmounted the hosted-engine NFS share without affecting all 
 the other running VMs on the host. When I shutdown the hosted-engine 
 and enable global maintenance, the storage pool is still mounted and I 
 can’t unmount it because the “sanlock” process is using it.
 
 
 
 Is there any way to disconnect the storage pool? There is a 
 hosted-engine --connect-storage option but I see nothing to disconnect it.
 
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Ryan
 

Hi Ryan,
Hosted engine does not unmount the share since there may be other VMs using it 
(as a general rule).
However this may deserve some additional thoughts. Do you mind opening an RFE 
for it?

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Re: [ovirt-users] How to disconnect hosted-engine NFS storage pool?

2014-09-21 Thread Doron Fediuck


- Original Message -
 From: Ryan Groten ryan.gro...@stantec.com
 To: users@ovirt.org
 Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 1:51:13 AM
 Subject: [ovirt-users]  How to disconnect hosted-engine NFS storage pool?
 
 
 
 I want to unmounted the hosted-engine NFS share without affecting all the
 other running VMs on the host. When I shutdown the hosted-engine and enable
 global maintenance, the storage pool is still mounted and I can’t unmount it
 because the “sanlock” process is using it.
 
 
 
 Is there any way to disconnect the storage pool? There is a hosted-engine
 --connect-storage option but I see nothing to disconnect it.
 
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Ryan
 

Hi Ryan,
Hosted engine does not unmount the share since there may be other
VMs using it (as a general rule).
However this may deserve some additional thoughts. Do you mind
opening an RFE for it?

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[ovirt-users] How to disconnect hosted-engine NFS storage pool?

2014-09-18 Thread Groten, Ryan
I want to unmounted the hosted-engine NFS share without affecting all the other 
running VMs on the host.  When I shutdown the hosted-engine and enable global 
maintenance, the storage pool is still mounted and I can't unmount it because 
the sanlock process is using it.

Is there any way to disconnect the storage pool?  There is a hosted-engine 
--connect-storage option but I see nothing to disconnect it.

Thanks,
Ryan
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