[ovirt-users] Re: oVirt 4.4.1 HCI single server deployment failed nested-kvm

2020-08-07 Thread xilazz
Hello, I also met the same problem, have you solved your problem?
I wonder if it's the configuration of the network card.
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[ovirt-users] Re: oVirt 4.4.1 HCI single server deployment failed nested-kvm

2020-07-31 Thread thomas
Just looking at the release notes, using anything 'older' in the case of 4.4 
seems very rough going... 

Testing 4.4 was actually how I got into the nesting domain this time around, 
because I didn't have physical hardware left for another HCI cluster.

Testing of oVirt 4.4 on top of oVirt 4.3 including migration scenarios is 
probably the most sensible use of nesting overall

Alas I had similarly bad luck during my first evaluation of oVirt about a year 
(or two?) ago, when I tried nesting oVirt on top of a big windows workstation 
with VMware Workstation: Everything seemed to work just fine, but nested VMs 
just stopped right at boot, without any error, but also no progress.

I had a vSphere cluster run no problem on that setup...
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[ovirt-users] Re: oVirt 4.4.1 HCI single server deployment failed nested-kvm

2020-07-31 Thread thomas
That's exactly the point: Running oVirt on top of a vanilla KVM seems to be the 
only case supported, because the Redhat engineers use that themselves for 
development, testing and demoing.

Running virtual machines nested inside an oVirt VM via KVM also works per se, 
as HostedEngineLocal during the setup is working, can be talked to etc. from 
the host that is running the setup, because it uses a local bridge. You can 
even reach everyone from within that nested VM on the outside, but the VM 
itsself is only accessible from the host at the point (normal in all cases).

But in the next stage of the installation that locally prepared VM is modified 
to run on the cluster storage, gluster in the HCI case and use the overlay 
network and that's where it loses network connectivity, I guess because overlay 
networks lack nesting (I guess there is still a non-overlay way to run oVirt 
and then perhaps it even works...)

And while I admire that network overlay stuff, it's also black magic to me, and 
evidently not trivial if not downright impossible to resolve, which is most 
likey why the Redhat engineers don't seem to pursue that path. At least that's 
what I read from this comment, which really should be somewhere right next to 
where  "nested virtualization" is ever mentioned, to ensure expectations are 
properly managed. 
https://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2017-March/080219.html 
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[ovirt-users] Re: oVirt 4.4.1 HCI single server deployment failed nested-kvm

2020-07-30 Thread Edward Berger
the 4.4.1 72310 node-ng iso has a broken installer.  It failed to find my
regular ethernet interfaces and gave the no networks error.
The 4.4.2-rc seems to be working fine hosted-engine installer wise, to an
nfs mount for the engine VM storage.  I didn't try the gluster wizard.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 10:30 AM wodel youchi 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> This is not my first time, I have installed ovirt, ovirt-hci, rhv and
> rhv-hci on top of a kvm host many times to test some functionality or to
> test a new version til this latest version of ovirt 4.4.1
>
> On my first test there was a problem with HCI deployment the gluster part.
>
> Now that part works with the new ovirt-node version but not the vm manager
> deployment part.
>
> Regards.
>
> Le jeu. 30 juil. 2020 14:56, Strahil Nikolov via Users 
> a écrit :
>
>> I've run  KVM  VMs  ontop  oVirt Guest.  Are  you sure that the Nested
>> Virtualization is your problem  ?
>> Best Regards,
>> Strahil Nikolov
>>
>> На 29 юли 2020 г. 23:33:48 GMT+03:00, tho...@hoberg.net написа:
>> >I tried using nested virtualization, too, a couple of weeks ago.
>> >
>> >I was using a 3 node HCI CentOS 7.8 cluster and I got pretty far.
>> >Configuring KVM to work with nested page tables isn't all that well
>> >documented but I got there, I even installed some host extensions, that
>> >seem requried.
>> >
>> >Even the actual nesting, that is a VM run inside a VM did work, the
>> >setup came to the point where it ran the hosted engine on temporary
>> >local storage, before it's picked up, fixed up to run on the Gluster
>> >storage and restarted there. But that process failed eventually,
>> >evidently because the overlay network doesn't support nesting. Where
>> >the initial hosted engine is using a local bridge with the (in this
>> >case virtual) host--and that works--afterwards it's using the overlay
>> >network and that evidently doesn't.
>> >
>> >It was only then when I ran across a very obscure message somewhere in
>> >this mailing list, that oVirt on top of oVirt in fact does not work at
>> >all! Up to that point it just wasn't "supported".
>> >
>> >When a hypervisor producer speaks of nested virtualization support, I
>> >would understand it to mean that you can run their product under their
>> >product, ideally also somebody else's product. I've run ESX on VMware
>> >workstation and that was pretty cool.
>> >
>> >In the case of oVirt from what I have gathered (and I'd love to be
>> >wrong), it is supposed to only mean that you can run oVirt on top of
>> >KVM.
>> >
>> >Not the other way around, nor in any other way most likely.
>> >
>> >To me that looks much more like an internal Redhat development
>> >facility, than a product feature.
>> >
>> >Of course I mostly wish they'd find a way to make it work like it does
>> >on VMware.
>> >But next on my wishlist would be an explicit description of what does
>> >and what doesn't work.
>> >
>> >This way it was almost a week of a me against the computer adventure
>> >where I lost.
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[ovirt-users] Re: oVirt 4.4.1 HCI single server deployment failed nested-kvm

2020-07-30 Thread wodel youchi
Hi,

This is not my first time, I have installed ovirt, ovirt-hci, rhv and
rhv-hci on top of a kvm host many times to test some functionality or to
test a new version til this latest version of ovirt 4.4.1

On my first test there was a problem with HCI deployment the gluster part.

Now that part works with the new ovirt-node version but not the vm manager
deployment part.

Regards.

Le jeu. 30 juil. 2020 14:56, Strahil Nikolov via Users  a
écrit :

> I've run  KVM  VMs  ontop  oVirt Guest.  Are  you sure that the Nested
> Virtualization is your problem  ?
> Best Regards,
> Strahil Nikolov
>
> На 29 юли 2020 г. 23:33:48 GMT+03:00, tho...@hoberg.net написа:
> >I tried using nested virtualization, too, a couple of weeks ago.
> >
> >I was using a 3 node HCI CentOS 7.8 cluster and I got pretty far.
> >Configuring KVM to work with nested page tables isn't all that well
> >documented but I got there, I even installed some host extensions, that
> >seem requried.
> >
> >Even the actual nesting, that is a VM run inside a VM did work, the
> >setup came to the point where it ran the hosted engine on temporary
> >local storage, before it's picked up, fixed up to run on the Gluster
> >storage and restarted there. But that process failed eventually,
> >evidently because the overlay network doesn't support nesting. Where
> >the initial hosted engine is using a local bridge with the (in this
> >case virtual) host--and that works--afterwards it's using the overlay
> >network and that evidently doesn't.
> >
> >It was only then when I ran across a very obscure message somewhere in
> >this mailing list, that oVirt on top of oVirt in fact does not work at
> >all! Up to that point it just wasn't "supported".
> >
> >When a hypervisor producer speaks of nested virtualization support, I
> >would understand it to mean that you can run their product under their
> >product, ideally also somebody else's product. I've run ESX on VMware
> >workstation and that was pretty cool.
> >
> >In the case of oVirt from what I have gathered (and I'd love to be
> >wrong), it is supposed to only mean that you can run oVirt on top of
> >KVM.
> >
> >Not the other way around, nor in any other way most likely.
> >
> >To me that looks much more like an internal Redhat development
> >facility, than a product feature.
> >
> >Of course I mostly wish they'd find a way to make it work like it does
> >on VMware.
> >But next on my wishlist would be an explicit description of what does
> >and what doesn't work.
> >
> >This way it was almost a week of a me against the computer adventure
> >where I lost.
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[ovirt-users] Re: oVirt 4.4.1 HCI single server deployment failed nested-kvm

2020-07-30 Thread Stefan Wolf
Hello,

I ve the same problem, I ve already set up glusterfs and like to deplay a self 
hosted engine. I ve allready ovirt self hosted engine deployed, with no 
problems. But here I get the same error with hosted-engine --deploy and in the 
web frontend.

[ INFO  ] TASK [ovirt.hosted_engine_setup : Failed if only teaming devices are 
availible]
[ ERROR ] fatal: [localhost]: FAILED! => {"msg": "The conditional check 
'(otopi_host_net.ansible_facts.otopi_host_net | length == 0)' failed. The error 
was: error while evaluating conditional 
((otopi_host_net.ansible_facts.otopi_host_net | length == 0)): 'list object' 
has no attribute 'ansible_facts'\n\nThe error appears to be in 
'/usr/share/ansible/roles/ovirt.hosted_engine_setup/tasks/filter_team_devices.yml':
 line 29, column 13, but may\nbe elsewhere in the file depending on the exact 
syntax problem.\n\nThe offending line appears to be:\n\n- debug: 
var=otopi_host_net\n^ here\n\nThere appears to be both 'k=v' 
shorthand syntax and YAML in this task. Only one syntax may be used.\n"}
[ ERROR ] Failed to execute stage 'Environment customization': Failed executing 
ansible-playbook


is there a solution or just use an older ovirt `node iso?

bye shb
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[ovirt-users] Re: oVirt 4.4.1 HCI single server deployment failed nested-kvm

2020-07-30 Thread Strahil Nikolov via Users
I've run  KVM  VMs  ontop  oVirt Guest.  Are  you sure that the Nested  
Virtualization is your problem  ?
Best Regards,
Strahil Nikolov

На 29 юли 2020 г. 23:33:48 GMT+03:00, tho...@hoberg.net написа:
>I tried using nested virtualization, too, a couple of weeks ago.
>
>I was using a 3 node HCI CentOS 7.8 cluster and I got pretty far.
>Configuring KVM to work with nested page tables isn't all that well
>documented but I got there, I even installed some host extensions, that
>seem requried.
>
>Even the actual nesting, that is a VM run inside a VM did work, the
>setup came to the point where it ran the hosted engine on temporary
>local storage, before it's picked up, fixed up to run on the Gluster
>storage and restarted there. But that process failed eventually,
>evidently because the overlay network doesn't support nesting. Where
>the initial hosted engine is using a local bridge with the (in this
>case virtual) host--and that works--afterwards it's using the overlay
>network and that evidently doesn't.
>
>It was only then when I ran across a very obscure message somewhere in
>this mailing list, that oVirt on top of oVirt in fact does not work at
>all! Up to that point it just wasn't "supported".
>
>When a hypervisor producer speaks of nested virtualization support, I
>would understand it to mean that you can run their product under their
>product, ideally also somebody else's product. I've run ESX on VMware
>workstation and that was pretty cool.
>
>In the case of oVirt from what I have gathered (and I'd love to be
>wrong), it is supposed to only mean that you can run oVirt on top of
>KVM.
>
>Not the other way around, nor in any other way most likely.
>
>To me that looks much more like an internal Redhat development
>facility, than a product feature.
>
>Of course I mostly wish they'd find a way to make it work like it does
>on VMware.
>But next on my wishlist would be an explicit description of what does
>and what doesn't work.
>
>This way it was almost a week of a me against the computer adventure
>where I lost.
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[ovirt-users] Re: oVirt 4.4.1 HCI single server deployment failed nested-kvm

2020-07-29 Thread thomas
I tried using nested virtualization, too, a couple of weeks ago.

I was using a 3 node HCI CentOS 7.8 cluster and I got pretty far. Configuring 
KVM to work with nested page tables isn't all that well documented but I got 
there, I even installed some host extensions, that seem requried.

Even the actual nesting, that is a VM run inside a VM did work, the setup came 
to the point where it ran the hosted engine on temporary local storage, before 
it's picked up, fixed up to run on the Gluster storage and restarted there. But 
that process failed eventually, evidently because the overlay network doesn't 
support nesting. Where the initial hosted engine is using a local bridge with 
the (in this case virtual) host--and that works--afterwards it's using the 
overlay network and that evidently doesn't.

It was only then when I ran across a very obscure message somewhere in this 
mailing list, that oVirt on top of oVirt in fact does not work at all! Up to 
that point it just wasn't "supported".

When a hypervisor producer speaks of nested virtualization support, I would 
understand it to mean that you can run their product under their product, 
ideally also somebody else's product. I've run ESX on VMware workstation and 
that was pretty cool.

In the case of oVirt from what I have gathered (and I'd love to be wrong), it 
is supposed to only mean that you can run oVirt on top of KVM.

Not the other way around, nor in any other way most likely.

To me that looks much more like an internal Redhat development facility, than a 
product feature.

Of course I mostly wish they'd find a way to make it work like it does on 
VMware.
But next on my wishlist would be an explicit description of what does and what 
doesn't work.

This way it was almost a week of a me against the computer adventure where I 
lost.
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