Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
- Original Message -
From: Vojtech Szocs vsz...@redhat.com
To: Yair Zaslavsky yzasl...@redhat.com
Cc: Barak Azulay bazu...@redhat.com, Oved Ourfali ov...@redhat.com,
users@ovirt.org
Sent: Friday, November 7, 2014 5:16:48 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
- Original Message -
From: Yair Zaslavsky yzasl...@redhat.com
To: Vojtech Szocs vsz...@redhat.com
Cc: Barak Azulay bazu...@redhat.com, Oved Ourfali ov...@redhat.com,
users@ovirt.org
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 2:59:53 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
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From: Vojtech Szocs vsz...@redhat.com
To: Barak Azulay bazu...@redhat.com
Cc: Oved Ourfali ov...@redhat.com, users@ovirt.org
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 3:38:56 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
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From: Barak Azulay bazu...@redhat.com
To: Vojtech Szocs vsz...@redhat.com
Cc: Einav Cohen eco...@redhat.com, Oved Ourfali
ov...@redhat.com,
users@ovirt.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 5:15:35 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
- Original Message -
From: Vojtech Szocs vsz...@redhat.com
To: Einav Cohen eco...@redhat.com
Cc: Oved Ourfali ov...@redhat.com, users@ovirt.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 2:12:05 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
- Original Message -
From: Einav Cohen eco...@redhat.com
To: Vojtech Szocs vsz...@redhat.com
Cc: Oved Ourfali ov...@redhat.com, users@ovirt.org
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 8:01:34 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
- Original Message -
From: Vojtech Szocs vsz...@redhat.com
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 11:51:53 AM
Hi,
if I get this correctly, you'd like to be notified when certain
event
happens (VM created/deleted/etc.) and react upon that. I see
multiple
possible approaches here:
0, improve Engine extension API (refer to Alon Bar-Lev for
details)
- if extensions can be packaged as JARs and these JARs could
include
web fragments [1] it would mean the possibility to deploy
custom
servlets onto existing Engine instance (in context of webapp
that
processes extensions)
- your custom Java servlet could query REST interface (or be
notified
once something happens, but AFAIK we don't have that
implemented
yet)
and do whatever logic is needed
- once I asked Alon about ^^ but never got response from him
- IMHO this would be a nice way to deploy custom Java code on
Engine
[1]
https://blogs.oracle.com/swchan/entry/servlet_3_0_web_fragment
1, improve UI plugin API
- add VirtualMachineDataLoaded event fired upon each refresh
of
VM data in UI table (generalization - {Entity}DataLoaded)
- this is similar to existing {Entity}SelectionChange events
relying on changes in the UI table is a bad idea:
(1) potentially missing events:
the UI displays paginated data; if my VMs are sorted by name, and
I have 1000 VMs in my setup, and I just added a VM named z, it
will
be added to the last page which is not displayed right now, so I
wouldn't even be aware that something was added.
(2) potentially creating fake events:
changes in the displayed data in the UI can occur due to change in
the
Search query; if I have 50 VMs in my setup, and I initially had the
Vms: search query, and now I change it to VMs: name = a*, which
results in displaying only 10 VMs, this may falsely hint on removal
of 40 VMs from the system.
Agreed, that was a bad idea :) UI data is constrained by things like
search query, pagination, sorting etc. Scratch my previous idea.
As mentioned before, notification of relevant events occuring in
system
should be the way to go. Either Engine will provide mechanism to
notify
other systems (i.e. email notifier) or other system will
poll/listen-to
changes in Engine (i.e. via REST API).
Idea for consideration, if every change to oVirt system would be sent
to some event bus, we could easily implement different notification
mechanisms (like websocket in addition to email), and web apps living
in Engine EAR context could also register to that event bus (imagine
WebAdmin servlet that listens for changes and pushes them to
clients).
This can/should be done through the notification service,
currently it supports email snmp traps ... but it could be extended
(very
easily)
Cool, maybe something we could
Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
- Original Message -
From: Yair Zaslavsky yzasl...@redhat.com
To: Vojtech Szocs vsz...@redhat.com
Cc: Barak Azulay bazu...@redhat.com, Oved Ourfali ov...@redhat.com,
users@ovirt.org
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 2:59:53 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
- Original Message -
From: Vojtech Szocs vsz...@redhat.com
To: Barak Azulay bazu...@redhat.com
Cc: Oved Ourfali ov...@redhat.com, users@ovirt.org
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 3:38:56 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
- Original Message -
From: Barak Azulay bazu...@redhat.com
To: Vojtech Szocs vsz...@redhat.com
Cc: Einav Cohen eco...@redhat.com, Oved Ourfali ov...@redhat.com,
users@ovirt.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 5:15:35 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
- Original Message -
From: Vojtech Szocs vsz...@redhat.com
To: Einav Cohen eco...@redhat.com
Cc: Oved Ourfali ov...@redhat.com, users@ovirt.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 2:12:05 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
- Original Message -
From: Einav Cohen eco...@redhat.com
To: Vojtech Szocs vsz...@redhat.com
Cc: Oved Ourfali ov...@redhat.com, users@ovirt.org
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 8:01:34 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
- Original Message -
From: Vojtech Szocs vsz...@redhat.com
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 11:51:53 AM
Hi,
if I get this correctly, you'd like to be notified when certain
event
happens (VM created/deleted/etc.) and react upon that. I see
multiple
possible approaches here:
0, improve Engine extension API (refer to Alon Bar-Lev for details)
- if extensions can be packaged as JARs and these JARs could
include
web fragments [1] it would mean the possibility to deploy
custom
servlets onto existing Engine instance (in context of webapp
that
processes extensions)
- your custom Java servlet could query REST interface (or be
notified
once something happens, but AFAIK we don't have that
implemented
yet)
and do whatever logic is needed
- once I asked Alon about ^^ but never got response from him
- IMHO this would be a nice way to deploy custom Java code on
Engine
[1] https://blogs.oracle.com/swchan/entry/servlet_3_0_web_fragment
1, improve UI plugin API
- add VirtualMachineDataLoaded event fired upon each refresh
of
VM data in UI table (generalization - {Entity}DataLoaded)
- this is similar to existing {Entity}SelectionChange events
relying on changes in the UI table is a bad idea:
(1) potentially missing events:
the UI displays paginated data; if my VMs are sorted by name, and
I have 1000 VMs in my setup, and I just added a VM named z, it will
be added to the last page which is not displayed right now, so I
wouldn't even be aware that something was added.
(2) potentially creating fake events:
changes in the displayed data in the UI can occur due to change in
the
Search query; if I have 50 VMs in my setup, and I initially had the
Vms: search query, and now I change it to VMs: name = a*, which
results in displaying only 10 VMs, this may falsely hint on removal
of 40 VMs from the system.
Agreed, that was a bad idea :) UI data is constrained by things like
search query, pagination, sorting etc. Scratch my previous idea.
As mentioned before, notification of relevant events occuring in system
should be the way to go. Either Engine will provide mechanism to notify
other systems (i.e. email notifier) or other system will poll/listen-to
changes in Engine (i.e. via REST API).
Idea for consideration, if every change to oVirt system would be sent
to some event bus, we could easily implement different notification
mechanisms (like websocket in addition to email), and web apps living
in Engine EAR context could also register to that event bus (imagine
WebAdmin servlet that listens for changes and pushes them to clients).
This can/should be done through the notification service,
currently it supports email snmp traps ... but it could be extended
(very
easily)
Cool, maybe something we could do in future as part of UX improvement,
i.e. change notification (push changes to client) to drive UI data update,
instead of periodic polling.
Bare ind mind the notification service works with audit log (the user marks
what will be notified).
I think you might be after for something else? Or did you refer to audit
log/events only?
You're right, I was after a general system has been modified in some way
event. Basically
Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
- Original Message -
From: Barak Azulay bazu...@redhat.com
To: Vojtech Szocs vsz...@redhat.com
Cc: Einav Cohen eco...@redhat.com, Oved Ourfali ov...@redhat.com,
users@ovirt.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 5:15:35 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
- Original Message -
From: Vojtech Szocs vsz...@redhat.com
To: Einav Cohen eco...@redhat.com
Cc: Oved Ourfali ov...@redhat.com, users@ovirt.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 2:12:05 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
- Original Message -
From: Einav Cohen eco...@redhat.com
To: Vojtech Szocs vsz...@redhat.com
Cc: Oved Ourfali ov...@redhat.com, users@ovirt.org
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 8:01:34 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
- Original Message -
From: Vojtech Szocs vsz...@redhat.com
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 11:51:53 AM
Hi,
if I get this correctly, you'd like to be notified when certain event
happens (VM created/deleted/etc.) and react upon that. I see multiple
possible approaches here:
0, improve Engine extension API (refer to Alon Bar-Lev for details)
- if extensions can be packaged as JARs and these JARs could include
web fragments [1] it would mean the possibility to deploy custom
servlets onto existing Engine instance (in context of webapp that
processes extensions)
- your custom Java servlet could query REST interface (or be
notified
once something happens, but AFAIK we don't have that implemented
yet)
and do whatever logic is needed
- once I asked Alon about ^^ but never got response from him
- IMHO this would be a nice way to deploy custom Java code on Engine
[1] https://blogs.oracle.com/swchan/entry/servlet_3_0_web_fragment
1, improve UI plugin API
- add VirtualMachineDataLoaded event fired upon each refresh of
VM data in UI table (generalization - {Entity}DataLoaded)
- this is similar to existing {Entity}SelectionChange events
relying on changes in the UI table is a bad idea:
(1) potentially missing events:
the UI displays paginated data; if my VMs are sorted by name, and
I have 1000 VMs in my setup, and I just added a VM named z, it will
be added to the last page which is not displayed right now, so I
wouldn't even be aware that something was added.
(2) potentially creating fake events:
changes in the displayed data in the UI can occur due to change in the
Search query; if I have 50 VMs in my setup, and I initially had the
Vms: search query, and now I change it to VMs: name = a*, which
results in displaying only 10 VMs, this may falsely hint on removal
of 40 VMs from the system.
Agreed, that was a bad idea :) UI data is constrained by things like
search query, pagination, sorting etc. Scratch my previous idea.
As mentioned before, notification of relevant events occuring in system
should be the way to go. Either Engine will provide mechanism to notify
other systems (i.e. email notifier) or other system will poll/listen-to
changes in Engine (i.e. via REST API).
Idea for consideration, if every change to oVirt system would be sent
to some event bus, we could easily implement different notification
mechanisms (like websocket in addition to email), and web apps living
in Engine EAR context could also register to that event bus (imagine
WebAdmin servlet that listens for changes and pushes them to clients).
This can/should be done through the notification service,
currently it supports email snmp traps ... but it could be extended (very
easily)
Cool, maybe something we could do in future as part of UX improvement,
i.e. change notification (push changes to client) to drive UI data update,
instead of periodic polling.
2, write UI plugin that uses oVirtJS to periodically check VM events
not sure if this is referring to VM-related events in the code (e.g.
hooking to the click on OK within the New VM / Remove VM dialog,
or hooking to the Success callback of the action response, or
something similar), or to the VM-related Events (i.e. the ones that
are displayed in the GUI within the Events main-tab / bottom section).
If the former: can be done, I assume, though not sure how complex it
would be to implement the infrastructure for that.
If the latter: this will catch actions that were performed either
via the GUI or outside the GUI; in this case, it would probably be
better to use an Engine extension API (solution 0 above) rather
than a UI plugin, since it will be more reliable, will be active
even when the GUI is not in use, etc.
It was meant simply as polling Engine via oVirtJS / REST API.
But then again, any UI plugin-based solution has the drawback that
web GUI must be active (open) in order for plugin to be active
Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
- Original Message -
From: Vojtech Szocs vsz...@redhat.com
To: Barak Azulay bazu...@redhat.com
Cc: Oved Ourfali ov...@redhat.com, users@ovirt.org
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 3:38:56 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
- Original Message -
From: Barak Azulay bazu...@redhat.com
To: Vojtech Szocs vsz...@redhat.com
Cc: Einav Cohen eco...@redhat.com, Oved Ourfali ov...@redhat.com,
users@ovirt.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 5:15:35 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
- Original Message -
From: Vojtech Szocs vsz...@redhat.com
To: Einav Cohen eco...@redhat.com
Cc: Oved Ourfali ov...@redhat.com, users@ovirt.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 2:12:05 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
- Original Message -
From: Einav Cohen eco...@redhat.com
To: Vojtech Szocs vsz...@redhat.com
Cc: Oved Ourfali ov...@redhat.com, users@ovirt.org
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 8:01:34 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
- Original Message -
From: Vojtech Szocs vsz...@redhat.com
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 11:51:53 AM
Hi,
if I get this correctly, you'd like to be notified when certain event
happens (VM created/deleted/etc.) and react upon that. I see multiple
possible approaches here:
0, improve Engine extension API (refer to Alon Bar-Lev for details)
- if extensions can be packaged as JARs and these JARs could
include
web fragments [1] it would mean the possibility to deploy custom
servlets onto existing Engine instance (in context of webapp
that
processes extensions)
- your custom Java servlet could query REST interface (or be
notified
once something happens, but AFAIK we don't have that implemented
yet)
and do whatever logic is needed
- once I asked Alon about ^^ but never got response from him
- IMHO this would be a nice way to deploy custom Java code on
Engine
[1] https://blogs.oracle.com/swchan/entry/servlet_3_0_web_fragment
1, improve UI plugin API
- add VirtualMachineDataLoaded event fired upon each refresh of
VM data in UI table (generalization - {Entity}DataLoaded)
- this is similar to existing {Entity}SelectionChange events
relying on changes in the UI table is a bad idea:
(1) potentially missing events:
the UI displays paginated data; if my VMs are sorted by name, and
I have 1000 VMs in my setup, and I just added a VM named z, it will
be added to the last page which is not displayed right now, so I
wouldn't even be aware that something was added.
(2) potentially creating fake events:
changes in the displayed data in the UI can occur due to change in the
Search query; if I have 50 VMs in my setup, and I initially had the
Vms: search query, and now I change it to VMs: name = a*, which
results in displaying only 10 VMs, this may falsely hint on removal
of 40 VMs from the system.
Agreed, that was a bad idea :) UI data is constrained by things like
search query, pagination, sorting etc. Scratch my previous idea.
As mentioned before, notification of relevant events occuring in system
should be the way to go. Either Engine will provide mechanism to notify
other systems (i.e. email notifier) or other system will poll/listen-to
changes in Engine (i.e. via REST API).
Idea for consideration, if every change to oVirt system would be sent
to some event bus, we could easily implement different notification
mechanisms (like websocket in addition to email), and web apps living
in Engine EAR context could also register to that event bus (imagine
WebAdmin servlet that listens for changes and pushes them to clients).
This can/should be done through the notification service,
currently it supports email snmp traps ... but it could be extended (very
easily)
Cool, maybe something we could do in future as part of UX improvement,
i.e. change notification (push changes to client) to drive UI data update,
instead of periodic polling.
Bare ind mind the notification service works with audit log (the user marks
what will be notified).
I think you might be after for something else? Or did you refer to audit
log/events only?
2, write UI plugin that uses oVirtJS to periodically check VM events
not sure if this is referring to VM-related events in the code (e.g.
hooking to the click on OK within the New VM / Remove VM dialog,
or hooking to the Success callback of the action response, or
something similar), or to the VM-related Events (i.e. the ones that
are displayed in the GUI within the Events main-tab / bottom section).
If the former: can be done, I assume, though not sure how complex
Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
- Original Message -
From: Einav Cohen eco...@redhat.com
To: Vojtech Szocs vsz...@redhat.com
Cc: Oved Ourfali ov...@redhat.com, users@ovirt.org
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 8:01:34 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
- Original Message -
From: Vojtech Szocs vsz...@redhat.com
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 11:51:53 AM
Hi,
if I get this correctly, you'd like to be notified when certain event
happens (VM created/deleted/etc.) and react upon that. I see multiple
possible approaches here:
0, improve Engine extension API (refer to Alon Bar-Lev for details)
- if extensions can be packaged as JARs and these JARs could include
web fragments [1] it would mean the possibility to deploy custom
servlets onto existing Engine instance (in context of webapp that
processes extensions)
- your custom Java servlet could query REST interface (or be notified
once something happens, but AFAIK we don't have that implemented yet)
and do whatever logic is needed
- once I asked Alon about ^^ but never got response from him
- IMHO this would be a nice way to deploy custom Java code on Engine
[1] https://blogs.oracle.com/swchan/entry/servlet_3_0_web_fragment
1, improve UI plugin API
- add VirtualMachineDataLoaded event fired upon each refresh of
VM data in UI table (generalization - {Entity}DataLoaded)
- this is similar to existing {Entity}SelectionChange events
relying on changes in the UI table is a bad idea:
(1) potentially missing events:
the UI displays paginated data; if my VMs are sorted by name, and
I have 1000 VMs in my setup, and I just added a VM named z, it will
be added to the last page which is not displayed right now, so I
wouldn't even be aware that something was added.
(2) potentially creating fake events:
changes in the displayed data in the UI can occur due to change in the
Search query; if I have 50 VMs in my setup, and I initially had the
Vms: search query, and now I change it to VMs: name = a*, which
results in displaying only 10 VMs, this may falsely hint on removal
of 40 VMs from the system.
Agreed, that was a bad idea :) UI data is constrained by things like
search query, pagination, sorting etc. Scratch my previous idea.
As mentioned before, notification of relevant events occuring in system
should be the way to go. Either Engine will provide mechanism to notify
other systems (i.e. email notifier) or other system will poll/listen-to
changes in Engine (i.e. via REST API).
Idea for consideration, if every change to oVirt system would be sent
to some event bus, we could easily implement different notification
mechanisms (like websocket in addition to email), and web apps living
in Engine EAR context could also register to that event bus (imagine
WebAdmin servlet that listens for changes and pushes them to clients).
2, write UI plugin that uses oVirtJS to periodically check VM events
not sure if this is referring to VM-related events in the code (e.g.
hooking to the click on OK within the New VM / Remove VM dialog,
or hooking to the Success callback of the action response, or
something similar), or to the VM-related Events (i.e. the ones that
are displayed in the GUI within the Events main-tab / bottom section).
If the former: can be done, I assume, though not sure how complex it
would be to implement the infrastructure for that.
If the latter: this will catch actions that were performed either
via the GUI or outside the GUI; in this case, it would probably be
better to use an Engine extension API (solution 0 above) rather
than a UI plugin, since it will be more reliable, will be active
even when the GUI is not in use, etc.
It was meant simply as polling Engine via oVirtJS / REST API.
But then again, any UI plugin-based solution has the drawback that
web GUI must be active (open) in order for plugin to be active.
The disadvantage of 1, and 2, is that WebAdmin GUI must be open.
In any case, if you'd like to explore the possibility of doing this
via UI plugin, I'm here to help.
Vojtech
- Original Message -
From: Oved Ourfali ov...@redhat.com
To: Yair Zaslavsky yzasl...@redhat.com
Cc: Koen Vanoppen vanoppen.k...@gmail.com, users@ovirt.org, Vojtech
Szocs vsz...@redhat.com
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 2:10:12 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
Hi
CC-ing also Vojtech, the father of the UI plugins.
Anyway, the only way to accomplish that via UI plugins at the moment is
via
adding a new action menu item, that in the background deleted the VM,
and
reports to Foreman.
I would be nice to have a hook for different UI action items, but it
isn't
available at the moment.
There are plenty code samples for UI plugins, most of them available at:
http://www.ovirt.org/Features/UIPlugins
I must say that I'm not sure webhooks are the right
Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
- Original Message -
From: Yair Zaslavsky yzasl...@redhat.com
To: Einav Cohen eco...@redhat.com
Cc: Vojtech Szocs vsz...@redhat.com, Oved Ourfali ov...@redhat.com,
users@ovirt.org
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 10:51:03 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
- Original Message -
From: Einav Cohen eco...@redhat.com
To: Vojtech Szocs vsz...@redhat.com
Cc: Oved Ourfali ov...@redhat.com, users@ovirt.org
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 9:01:34 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
- Original Message -
From: Vojtech Szocs vsz...@redhat.com
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 11:51:53 AM
Hi,
if I get this correctly, you'd like to be notified when certain event
happens (VM created/deleted/etc.) and react upon that. I see multiple
possible approaches here:
0, improve Engine extension API (refer to Alon Bar-Lev for details)
- if extensions can be packaged as JARs and these JARs could include
web fragments [1] it would mean the possibility to deploy custom
servlets onto existing Engine instance (in context of webapp that
processes extensions)
- your custom Java servlet could query REST interface (or be notified
once something happens, but AFAIK we don't have that implemented
yet)
and do whatever logic is needed
- once I asked Alon about ^^ but never got response from him
- IMHO this would be a nice way to deploy custom Java code on Engine
Please allow me to step in as someone who worked on the extensions API as
well,
There are more missing bits here.
You are referring to the webapp side, but this is not enough.
We have also the engine side which has to become more pluggable.
Agreed. For me, the webapp side is really an interesting option, since it
would mean that 3rd parties could write custom code that would consume our
existing Java/Engine services (assuming these could be exposed across WARs).
In other words, plug custom Java code into Engine (inside-product
integration),
as opposed to typical scenario where 3rd party system uses Engine REST interface
(outside-product integration).
In addition, we will probably need to handle all kinds of issues that rise
from our singletons at engine - class loading might be an issue here, no?
Hm, Java class loaders have hierarchy, so if we put shared Java services
(ideally exposed and injectable as CDI beans) into class loader above specific
webapp (WAR) class loaders, it wouldn't be a problem. But I can be wrong here.
You don't want the X-ton (doubleton, tripleton, etc..) phenomena in your
setup - you don't want for example X instances of AsyncTaskManager.
I think that in general we should strive to turn engine into way more
pluggable/modular than it is now, imagine an engine microkernel (for those
of you who did not hear the term microkernel, I am referring you to jboss
architecture) - we should have a thin microkernel and the rest of the code
should be pluggable, using the extension API (and perhaps web fragments as
well).
What do you think?
Great ideas :)
[1] https://blogs.oracle.com/swchan/entry/servlet_3_0_web_fragment
1, improve UI plugin API
- add VirtualMachineDataLoaded event fired upon each refresh of
VM data in UI table (generalization - {Entity}DataLoaded)
- this is similar to existing {Entity}SelectionChange events
relying on changes in the UI table is a bad idea:
(1) potentially missing events:
the UI displays paginated data; if my VMs are sorted by name, and
I have 1000 VMs in my setup, and I just added a VM named z, it will
be added to the last page which is not displayed right now, so I
wouldn't even be aware that something was added.
(2) potentially creating fake events:
changes in the displayed data in the UI can occur due to change in the
Search query; if I have 50 VMs in my setup, and I initially had the
Vms: search query, and now I change it to VMs: name = a*, which
results in displaying only 10 VMs, this may falsely hint on removal
of 40 VMs from the system.
2, write UI plugin that uses oVirtJS to periodically check VM events
not sure if this is referring to VM-related events in the code (e.g.
hooking to the click on OK within the New VM / Remove VM dialog,
or hooking to the Success callback of the action response, or
something similar), or to the VM-related Events (i.e. the ones that
are displayed in the GUI within the Events main-tab / bottom section).
If the former: can be done, I assume, though not sure how complex it
would be to implement the infrastructure for that.
If the latter: this will catch actions that were performed either
via the GUI or outside the GUI; in this case, it would probably be
better to use an Engine extension API (solution 0 above) rather
than a UI plugin, since it will be more reliable, will be active
even when the GUI is not in use, etc
Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
- Original Message -
From: Vojtech Szocs vsz...@redhat.com
To: Einav Cohen eco...@redhat.com
Cc: Oved Ourfali ov...@redhat.com, users@ovirt.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 2:12:05 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
- Original Message -
From: Einav Cohen eco...@redhat.com
To: Vojtech Szocs vsz...@redhat.com
Cc: Oved Ourfali ov...@redhat.com, users@ovirt.org
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 8:01:34 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
- Original Message -
From: Vojtech Szocs vsz...@redhat.com
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 11:51:53 AM
Hi,
if I get this correctly, you'd like to be notified when certain event
happens (VM created/deleted/etc.) and react upon that. I see multiple
possible approaches here:
0, improve Engine extension API (refer to Alon Bar-Lev for details)
- if extensions can be packaged as JARs and these JARs could include
web fragments [1] it would mean the possibility to deploy custom
servlets onto existing Engine instance (in context of webapp that
processes extensions)
- your custom Java servlet could query REST interface (or be notified
once something happens, but AFAIK we don't have that implemented
yet)
and do whatever logic is needed
- once I asked Alon about ^^ but never got response from him
- IMHO this would be a nice way to deploy custom Java code on Engine
[1] https://blogs.oracle.com/swchan/entry/servlet_3_0_web_fragment
1, improve UI plugin API
- add VirtualMachineDataLoaded event fired upon each refresh of
VM data in UI table (generalization - {Entity}DataLoaded)
- this is similar to existing {Entity}SelectionChange events
relying on changes in the UI table is a bad idea:
(1) potentially missing events:
the UI displays paginated data; if my VMs are sorted by name, and
I have 1000 VMs in my setup, and I just added a VM named z, it will
be added to the last page which is not displayed right now, so I
wouldn't even be aware that something was added.
(2) potentially creating fake events:
changes in the displayed data in the UI can occur due to change in the
Search query; if I have 50 VMs in my setup, and I initially had the
Vms: search query, and now I change it to VMs: name = a*, which
results in displaying only 10 VMs, this may falsely hint on removal
of 40 VMs from the system.
Agreed, that was a bad idea :) UI data is constrained by things like
search query, pagination, sorting etc. Scratch my previous idea.
As mentioned before, notification of relevant events occuring in system
should be the way to go. Either Engine will provide mechanism to notify
other systems (i.e. email notifier) or other system will poll/listen-to
changes in Engine (i.e. via REST API).
Idea for consideration, if every change to oVirt system would be sent
to some event bus, we could easily implement different notification
mechanisms (like websocket in addition to email), and web apps living
in Engine EAR context could also register to that event bus (imagine
WebAdmin servlet that listens for changes and pushes them to clients).
This can/should be done through the notification service,
currently it supports email snmp traps ... but it could be extended (very
easily)
2, write UI plugin that uses oVirtJS to periodically check VM events
not sure if this is referring to VM-related events in the code (e.g.
hooking to the click on OK within the New VM / Remove VM dialog,
or hooking to the Success callback of the action response, or
something similar), or to the VM-related Events (i.e. the ones that
are displayed in the GUI within the Events main-tab / bottom section).
If the former: can be done, I assume, though not sure how complex it
would be to implement the infrastructure for that.
If the latter: this will catch actions that were performed either
via the GUI or outside the GUI; in this case, it would probably be
better to use an Engine extension API (solution 0 above) rather
than a UI plugin, since it will be more reliable, will be active
even when the GUI is not in use, etc.
It was meant simply as polling Engine via oVirtJS / REST API.
But then again, any UI plugin-based solution has the drawback that
web GUI must be active (open) in order for plugin to be active.
The disadvantage of 1, and 2, is that WebAdmin GUI must be open.
In any case, if you'd like to explore the possibility of doing this
via UI plugin, I'm here to help.
Vojtech
- Original Message -
From: Oved Ourfali ov...@redhat.com
To: Yair Zaslavsky yzasl...@redhat.com
Cc: Koen Vanoppen vanoppen.k...@gmail.com, users@ovirt.org,
Vojtech
Szocs vsz...@redhat.com
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 2:10:12 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
Hi
CC-ing also Vojtech
Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
Whoow, just missed a couple of days I see... thanks everybody for your
already given support!! I will discuss this also with my colleague on
Monday. And I must say I'm impressed about all the fedback! This could be
indeed a very nice extension to oVirt, because I guess we are not the only
ones who are in need of this or will be in the future.
Thanks again!
2014-10-31 22:51 GMT+01:00 Yair Zaslavsky yzasl...@redhat.com:
- Original Message -
From: Einav Cohen eco...@redhat.com
To: Vojtech Szocs vsz...@redhat.com
Cc: Oved Ourfali ov...@redhat.com, users@ovirt.org
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 9:01:34 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
- Original Message -
From: Vojtech Szocs vsz...@redhat.com
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 11:51:53 AM
Hi,
if I get this correctly, you'd like to be notified when certain event
happens (VM created/deleted/etc.) and react upon that. I see multiple
possible approaches here:
0, improve Engine extension API (refer to Alon Bar-Lev for details)
- if extensions can be packaged as JARs and these JARs could include
web fragments [1] it would mean the possibility to deploy custom
servlets onto existing Engine instance (in context of webapp that
processes extensions)
- your custom Java servlet could query REST interface (or be
notified
once something happens, but AFAIK we don't have that implemented
yet)
and do whatever logic is needed
- once I asked Alon about ^^ but never got response from him
- IMHO this would be a nice way to deploy custom Java code on Engine
Please allow me to step in as someone who worked on the extensions API as
well,
There are more missing bits here.
You are referring to the webapp side, but this is not enough.
We have also the engine side which has to become more pluggable.
In addition, we will probably need to handle all kinds of issues that rise
from our singletons at engine - class loading might be an issue here, no?
You don't want the X-ton (doubleton, tripleton, etc..) phenomena in your
setup - you don't want for example X instances of AsyncTaskManager.
I think that in general we should strive to turn engine into way more
pluggable/modular than it is now, imagine an engine microkernel (for
those of you who did not hear the term microkernel, I am referring you to
jboss architecture) - we should have a thin microkernel and the rest of
the code should be pluggable, using the extension API (and perhaps web
fragments as well).
What do you think?
[1] https://blogs.oracle.com/swchan/entry/servlet_3_0_web_fragment
1, improve UI plugin API
- add VirtualMachineDataLoaded event fired upon each refresh of
VM data in UI table (generalization - {Entity}DataLoaded)
- this is similar to existing {Entity}SelectionChange events
relying on changes in the UI table is a bad idea:
(1) potentially missing events:
the UI displays paginated data; if my VMs are sorted by name, and
I have 1000 VMs in my setup, and I just added a VM named z, it will
be added to the last page which is not displayed right now, so I
wouldn't even be aware that something was added.
(2) potentially creating fake events:
changes in the displayed data in the UI can occur due to change in the
Search query; if I have 50 VMs in my setup, and I initially had the
Vms: search query, and now I change it to VMs: name = a*, which
results in displaying only 10 VMs, this may falsely hint on removal
of 40 VMs from the system.
2, write UI plugin that uses oVirtJS to periodically check VM events
not sure if this is referring to VM-related events in the code (e.g.
hooking to the click on OK within the New VM / Remove VM dialog,
or hooking to the Success callback of the action response, or
something similar), or to the VM-related Events (i.e. the ones that
are displayed in the GUI within the Events main-tab / bottom section).
If the former: can be done, I assume, though not sure how complex it
would be to implement the infrastructure for that.
If the latter: this will catch actions that were performed either
via the GUI or outside the GUI; in this case, it would probably be
better to use an Engine extension API (solution 0 above) rather
than a UI plugin, since it will be more reliable, will be active
even when the GUI is not in use, etc.
The disadvantage of 1, and 2, is that WebAdmin GUI must be open.
In any case, if you'd like to explore the possibility of doing this
via UI plugin, I'm here to help.
Vojtech
- Original Message -
From: Oved Ourfali ov...@redhat.com
To: Yair Zaslavsky yzasl...@redhat.com
Cc: Koen Vanoppen vanoppen.k...@gmail.com, users@ovirt.org,
Vojtech
Szocs vsz...@redhat.com
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 2:10:12 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
Hi
CC-ing also Vojtech, the father
Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
Hi,
if I get this correctly, you'd like to be notified when certain event
happens (VM created/deleted/etc.) and react upon that. I see multiple
possible approaches here:
0, improve Engine extension API (refer to Alon Bar-Lev for details)
- if extensions can be packaged as JARs and these JARs could include
web fragments [1] it would mean the possibility to deploy custom
servlets onto existing Engine instance (in context of webapp that
processes extensions)
- your custom Java servlet could query REST interface (or be notified
once something happens, but AFAIK we don't have that implemented yet)
and do whatever logic is needed
- once I asked Alon about ^^ but never got response from him
- IMHO this would be a nice way to deploy custom Java code on Engine
[1] https://blogs.oracle.com/swchan/entry/servlet_3_0_web_fragment
1, improve UI plugin API
- add VirtualMachineDataLoaded event fired upon each refresh of
VM data in UI table (generalization - {Entity}DataLoaded)
- this is similar to existing {Entity}SelectionChange events
2, write UI plugin that uses oVirtJS to periodically check VM events
The disadvantage of 1, and 2, is that WebAdmin GUI must be open.
In any case, if you'd like to explore the possibility of doing this
via UI plugin, I'm here to help.
Vojtech
- Original Message -
From: Oved Ourfali ov...@redhat.com
To: Yair Zaslavsky yzasl...@redhat.com
Cc: Koen Vanoppen vanoppen.k...@gmail.com, users@ovirt.org, Vojtech
Szocs vsz...@redhat.com
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 2:10:12 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
Hi
CC-ing also Vojtech, the father of the UI plugins.
Anyway, the only way to accomplish that via UI plugins at the moment is via
adding a new action menu item, that in the background deleted the VM, and
reports to Foreman.
I would be nice to have a hook for different UI action items, but it isn't
available at the moment.
There are plenty code samples for UI plugins, most of them available at:
http://www.ovirt.org/Features/UIPlugins
I must say that I'm not sure webhooks are the right approach for that, as I
guess it is relevant only in environments in which one doesn't use the
API/CLI/SDK
but.. it will be a cool feature!
Regards,
Oved
- Original Message -
From: Yair Zaslavsky yzasl...@redhat.com
To: Koen Vanoppen vanoppen.k...@gmail.com
Cc: Oved Ourfali ov...@redhat.com, users@ovirt.org
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 1:44:38 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
Oved - can we implement something like this using ui-plugins?
- Original Message -
From: Koen Vanoppen vanoppen.k...@gmail.com
To: users@ovirt.org
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 4:06:40 PM
Subject: [ovirt-users] webhook
Hi all,
Just a quick question. Is it possible to set a webhook on the removal and
creation of a new vm? So we can send to foreman a delete action when the
VM
is deleted...
Kind regards,
Koen
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Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
- Original Message -
From: Vojtech Szocs vsz...@redhat.com
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 11:51:53 AM
Hi,
if I get this correctly, you'd like to be notified when certain event
happens (VM created/deleted/etc.) and react upon that. I see multiple
possible approaches here:
0, improve Engine extension API (refer to Alon Bar-Lev for details)
- if extensions can be packaged as JARs and these JARs could include
web fragments [1] it would mean the possibility to deploy custom
servlets onto existing Engine instance (in context of webapp that
processes extensions)
- your custom Java servlet could query REST interface (or be notified
once something happens, but AFAIK we don't have that implemented yet)
and do whatever logic is needed
- once I asked Alon about ^^ but never got response from him
- IMHO this would be a nice way to deploy custom Java code on Engine
[1] https://blogs.oracle.com/swchan/entry/servlet_3_0_web_fragment
1, improve UI plugin API
- add VirtualMachineDataLoaded event fired upon each refresh of
VM data in UI table (generalization - {Entity}DataLoaded)
- this is similar to existing {Entity}SelectionChange events
relying on changes in the UI table is a bad idea:
(1) potentially missing events:
the UI displays paginated data; if my VMs are sorted by name, and
I have 1000 VMs in my setup, and I just added a VM named z, it will
be added to the last page which is not displayed right now, so I
wouldn't even be aware that something was added.
(2) potentially creating fake events:
changes in the displayed data in the UI can occur due to change in the
Search query; if I have 50 VMs in my setup, and I initially had the
Vms: search query, and now I change it to VMs: name = a*, which
results in displaying only 10 VMs, this may falsely hint on removal
of 40 VMs from the system.
2, write UI plugin that uses oVirtJS to periodically check VM events
not sure if this is referring to VM-related events in the code (e.g.
hooking to the click on OK within the New VM / Remove VM dialog,
or hooking to the Success callback of the action response, or
something similar), or to the VM-related Events (i.e. the ones that
are displayed in the GUI within the Events main-tab / bottom section).
If the former: can be done, I assume, though not sure how complex it
would be to implement the infrastructure for that.
If the latter: this will catch actions that were performed either
via the GUI or outside the GUI; in this case, it would probably be
better to use an Engine extension API (solution 0 above) rather
than a UI plugin, since it will be more reliable, will be active
even when the GUI is not in use, etc.
The disadvantage of 1, and 2, is that WebAdmin GUI must be open.
In any case, if you'd like to explore the possibility of doing this
via UI plugin, I'm here to help.
Vojtech
- Original Message -
From: Oved Ourfali ov...@redhat.com
To: Yair Zaslavsky yzasl...@redhat.com
Cc: Koen Vanoppen vanoppen.k...@gmail.com, users@ovirt.org, Vojtech
Szocs vsz...@redhat.com
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 2:10:12 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
Hi
CC-ing also Vojtech, the father of the UI plugins.
Anyway, the only way to accomplish that via UI plugins at the moment is via
adding a new action menu item, that in the background deleted the VM, and
reports to Foreman.
I would be nice to have a hook for different UI action items, but it
isn't
available at the moment.
There are plenty code samples for UI plugins, most of them available at:
http://www.ovirt.org/Features/UIPlugins
I must say that I'm not sure webhooks are the right approach for that, as I
guess it is relevant only in environments in which one doesn't use the
API/CLI/SDK
but.. it will be a cool feature!
Regards,
Oved
- Original Message -
From: Yair Zaslavsky yzasl...@redhat.com
To: Koen Vanoppen vanoppen.k...@gmail.com
Cc: Oved Ourfali ov...@redhat.com, users@ovirt.org
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 1:44:38 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
Oved - can we implement something like this using ui-plugins?
- Original Message -
From: Koen Vanoppen vanoppen.k...@gmail.com
To: users@ovirt.org
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 4:06:40 PM
Subject: [ovirt-users] webhook
Hi all,
Just a quick question. Is it possible to set a webhook on the removal
and
creation of a new vm? So we can send to foreman a delete action when
the
VM
is deleted...
Kind regards,
Koen
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Users@ovirt.org
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Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
- Original Message -
From: Einav Cohen eco...@redhat.com
To: Vojtech Szocs vsz...@redhat.com
Cc: Oved Ourfali ov...@redhat.com, users@ovirt.org
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 9:01:34 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
- Original Message -
From: Vojtech Szocs vsz...@redhat.com
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 11:51:53 AM
Hi,
if I get this correctly, you'd like to be notified when certain event
happens (VM created/deleted/etc.) and react upon that. I see multiple
possible approaches here:
0, improve Engine extension API (refer to Alon Bar-Lev for details)
- if extensions can be packaged as JARs and these JARs could include
web fragments [1] it would mean the possibility to deploy custom
servlets onto existing Engine instance (in context of webapp that
processes extensions)
- your custom Java servlet could query REST interface (or be notified
once something happens, but AFAIK we don't have that implemented yet)
and do whatever logic is needed
- once I asked Alon about ^^ but never got response from him
- IMHO this would be a nice way to deploy custom Java code on Engine
Please allow me to step in as someone who worked on the extensions API as well,
There are more missing bits here.
You are referring to the webapp side, but this is not enough.
We have also the engine side which has to become more pluggable.
In addition, we will probably need to handle all kinds of issues that rise from
our singletons at engine - class loading might be an issue here, no?
You don't want the X-ton (doubleton, tripleton, etc..) phenomena in your
setup - you don't want for example X instances of AsyncTaskManager.
I think that in general we should strive to turn engine into way more
pluggable/modular than it is now, imagine an engine microkernel (for those of
you who did not hear the term microkernel, I am referring you to jboss
architecture) - we should have a thin microkernel and the rest of the code
should be pluggable, using the extension API (and perhaps web fragments as
well).
What do you think?
[1] https://blogs.oracle.com/swchan/entry/servlet_3_0_web_fragment
1, improve UI plugin API
- add VirtualMachineDataLoaded event fired upon each refresh of
VM data in UI table (generalization - {Entity}DataLoaded)
- this is similar to existing {Entity}SelectionChange events
relying on changes in the UI table is a bad idea:
(1) potentially missing events:
the UI displays paginated data; if my VMs are sorted by name, and
I have 1000 VMs in my setup, and I just added a VM named z, it will
be added to the last page which is not displayed right now, so I
wouldn't even be aware that something was added.
(2) potentially creating fake events:
changes in the displayed data in the UI can occur due to change in the
Search query; if I have 50 VMs in my setup, and I initially had the
Vms: search query, and now I change it to VMs: name = a*, which
results in displaying only 10 VMs, this may falsely hint on removal
of 40 VMs from the system.
2, write UI plugin that uses oVirtJS to periodically check VM events
not sure if this is referring to VM-related events in the code (e.g.
hooking to the click on OK within the New VM / Remove VM dialog,
or hooking to the Success callback of the action response, or
something similar), or to the VM-related Events (i.e. the ones that
are displayed in the GUI within the Events main-tab / bottom section).
If the former: can be done, I assume, though not sure how complex it
would be to implement the infrastructure for that.
If the latter: this will catch actions that were performed either
via the GUI or outside the GUI; in this case, it would probably be
better to use an Engine extension API (solution 0 above) rather
than a UI plugin, since it will be more reliable, will be active
even when the GUI is not in use, etc.
The disadvantage of 1, and 2, is that WebAdmin GUI must be open.
In any case, if you'd like to explore the possibility of doing this
via UI plugin, I'm here to help.
Vojtech
- Original Message -
From: Oved Ourfali ov...@redhat.com
To: Yair Zaslavsky yzasl...@redhat.com
Cc: Koen Vanoppen vanoppen.k...@gmail.com, users@ovirt.org, Vojtech
Szocs vsz...@redhat.com
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 2:10:12 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
Hi
CC-ing also Vojtech, the father of the UI plugins.
Anyway, the only way to accomplish that via UI plugins at the moment is
via
adding a new action menu item, that in the background deleted the VM,
and
reports to Foreman.
I would be nice to have a hook for different UI action items, but it
isn't
available at the moment.
There are plenty code samples for UI plugins, most of them available at:
http://www.ovirt.org/Features/UIPlugins
I must say that I'm not sure webhooks are the right
Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
Nobody? :-(. Or it is just not possible? 2014-10-27 15:06 GMT+01:00 Koen Vanoppen vanoppen.k...@gmail.com: Hi all, Just a quick question. Is it possible to set a webhook on the removal and creation of a new vm? So we can send to foreman a delete action when the VM is deleted... Kind regards, Koen ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
Oved - can we implement something like this using ui-plugins? - Original Message - From: Koen Vanoppen vanoppen.k...@gmail.com To: users@ovirt.org Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 4:06:40 PM Subject: [ovirt-users] webhook Hi all, Just a quick question. Is it possible to set a webhook on the removal and creation of a new vm? So we can send to foreman a delete action when the VM is deleted... Kind regards, Koen ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
can't the event-notifications be used? notify some email on delete operation (not sure there is a notification for this today..) and hook on the email to run the script? - Original Message - From: Oved Ourfali ov...@redhat.com To: Yair Zaslavsky yzasl...@redhat.com Cc: users@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 3:10:12 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook Hi CC-ing also Vojtech, the father of the UI plugins. Anyway, the only way to accomplish that via UI plugins at the moment is via adding a new action menu item, that in the background deleted the VM, and reports to Foreman. I would be nice to have a hook for different UI action items, but it isn't available at the moment. There are plenty code samples for UI plugins, most of them available at: http://www.ovirt.org/Features/UIPlugins I must say that I'm not sure webhooks are the right approach for that, as I guess it is relevant only in environments in which one doesn't use the API/CLI/SDK but.. it will be a cool feature! Regards, Oved - Original Message - From: Yair Zaslavsky yzasl...@redhat.com To: Koen Vanoppen vanoppen.k...@gmail.com Cc: Oved Ourfali ov...@redhat.com, users@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 1:44:38 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook Oved - can we implement something like this using ui-plugins? - Original Message - From: Koen Vanoppen vanoppen.k...@gmail.com To: users@ovirt.org Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 4:06:40 PM Subject: [ovirt-users] webhook Hi all, Just a quick question. Is it possible to set a webhook on the removal and creation of a new vm? So we can send to foreman a delete action when the VM is deleted... Kind regards, Koen ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
- Original Message - From: Omer Frenkel ofren...@redhat.com To: Oved Ourfali ov...@redhat.com, Yair Zaslavsky yzasl...@redhat.com Cc: users@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 3:54:37 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook can't the event-notifications be used? notify some email on delete operation (not sure there is a notification for this today..) and hook on the email to run the script? I agree that notification sounds like the best option, Although I would use the SNMP traps for that. If you already have a SNMP monitoring system you can catch the trap there and do your foreman magic. - Original Message - From: Oved Ourfali ov...@redhat.com To: Yair Zaslavsky yzasl...@redhat.com Cc: users@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 3:10:12 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook Hi CC-ing also Vojtech, the father of the UI plugins. Anyway, the only way to accomplish that via UI plugins at the moment is via adding a new action menu item, that in the background deleted the VM, and reports to Foreman. I would be nice to have a hook for different UI action items, but it isn't available at the moment. There are plenty code samples for UI plugins, most of them available at: http://www.ovirt.org/Features/UIPlugins I must say that I'm not sure webhooks are the right approach for that, as I guess it is relevant only in environments in which one doesn't use the API/CLI/SDK but.. it will be a cool feature! Regards, Oved - Original Message - From: Yair Zaslavsky yzasl...@redhat.com To: Koen Vanoppen vanoppen.k...@gmail.com Cc: Oved Ourfali ov...@redhat.com, users@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 1:44:38 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook Oved - can we implement something like this using ui-plugins? - Original Message - From: Koen Vanoppen vanoppen.k...@gmail.com To: users@ovirt.org Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 4:06:40 PM Subject: [ovirt-users] webhook Hi all, Just a quick question. Is it possible to set a webhook on the removal and creation of a new vm? So we can send to foreman a delete action when the VM is deleted... Kind regards, Koen ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
- Original Message - From: Barak Azulay bazu...@redhat.com To: Omer Frenkel ofren...@redhat.com, vanoppen koen vanoppen.k...@gmail.com Cc: Oved Ourfali ov...@redhat.com, users@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 10:55:56 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook - Original Message - From: Omer Frenkel ofren...@redhat.com To: Oved Ourfali ov...@redhat.com, Yair Zaslavsky yzasl...@redhat.com Cc: users@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 3:54:37 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook can't the event-notifications be used? notify some email on delete operation (not sure there is a notification for this today..) and hook on the email to run the script? I agree that notification sounds like the best option, Although I would use the SNMP traps for that. If you already have a SNMP monitoring system you can catch the trap there and do your foreman magic. I assume the relevant notification is USER_REMOVE_VM_FINISHED(113) Mooli / Omer please approve . - Original Message - From: Oved Ourfali ov...@redhat.com To: Yair Zaslavsky yzasl...@redhat.com Cc: users@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 3:10:12 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook Hi CC-ing also Vojtech, the father of the UI plugins. Anyway, the only way to accomplish that via UI plugins at the moment is via adding a new action menu item, that in the background deleted the VM, and reports to Foreman. I would be nice to have a hook for different UI action items, but it isn't available at the moment. There are plenty code samples for UI plugins, most of them available at: http://www.ovirt.org/Features/UIPlugins I must say that I'm not sure webhooks are the right approach for that, as I guess it is relevant only in environments in which one doesn't use the API/CLI/SDK but.. it will be a cool feature! Regards, Oved - Original Message - From: Yair Zaslavsky yzasl...@redhat.com To: Koen Vanoppen vanoppen.k...@gmail.com Cc: Oved Ourfali ov...@redhat.com, users@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 1:44:38 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook Oved - can we implement something like this using ui-plugins? - Original Message - From: Koen Vanoppen vanoppen.k...@gmail.com To: users@ovirt.org Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 4:06:40 PM Subject: [ovirt-users] webhook Hi all, Just a quick question. Is it possible to set a webhook on the removal and creation of a new vm? So we can send to foreman a delete action when the VM is deleted... Kind regards, Koen ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
- Original Message -
From: Barak Azulay bazu...@redhat.com
To: Omer Frenkel ofren...@redhat.com, vanoppen koen
vanoppen.k...@gmail.com, Mooli Tayer
mta...@redhat.com
Cc: Oved Ourfali ov...@redhat.com, users@ovirt.org
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:10:55 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
- Original Message -
From: Barak Azulay bazu...@redhat.com
To: Omer Frenkel ofren...@redhat.com, vanoppen koen
vanoppen.k...@gmail.com
Cc: Oved Ourfali ov...@redhat.com, users@ovirt.org
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 10:55:56 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
- Original Message -
From: Omer Frenkel ofren...@redhat.com
To: Oved Ourfali ov...@redhat.com, Yair Zaslavsky
yzasl...@redhat.com
Cc: users@ovirt.org
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 3:54:37 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
can't the event-notifications be used?
notify some email on delete operation (not sure there is a notification
for
this today..)
and hook on the email to run the script?
I agree that notification sounds like the best option,
Although I would use the SNMP traps for that.
If you already have a SNMP monitoring system you can catch the trap there
and
do your foreman magic.
I assume the relevant notification is USER_REMOVE_VM_FINISHED(113)
Mooli / Omer please approve .
+1
From what I saw this is the relevant event.
Which has the textual represenation of VM ${VmName} was successfully removed
- Original Message -
From: Oved Ourfali ov...@redhat.com
To: Yair Zaslavsky yzasl...@redhat.com
Cc: users@ovirt.org
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 3:10:12 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
Hi
CC-ing also Vojtech, the father of the UI plugins.
Anyway, the only way to accomplish that via UI plugins at the moment is
via
adding a new action menu item, that in the background deleted the VM,
and
reports to Foreman.
I would be nice to have a hook for different UI action items, but it
isn't
available at the moment.
There are plenty code samples for UI plugins, most of them available
at:
http://www.ovirt.org/Features/UIPlugins
I must say that I'm not sure webhooks are the right approach for that,
as
I
guess it is relevant only in environments in which one doesn't use the
API/CLI/SDK
but.. it will be a cool feature!
Regards,
Oved
- Original Message -
From: Yair Zaslavsky yzasl...@redhat.com
To: Koen Vanoppen vanoppen.k...@gmail.com
Cc: Oved Ourfali ov...@redhat.com, users@ovirt.org
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 1:44:38 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] webhook
Oved - can we implement something like this using ui-plugins?
- Original Message -
From: Koen Vanoppen vanoppen.k...@gmail.com
To: users@ovirt.org
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 4:06:40 PM
Subject: [ovirt-users] webhook
Hi all,
Just a quick question. Is it possible to set a webhook on the
removal
and
creation of a new vm? So we can send to foreman a delete action
when
the
VM
is deleted...
Kind regards,
Koen
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[ovirt-users] webhook
Hi all, Just a quick question. Is it possible to set a webhook on the removal and creation of a new vm? So we can send to foreman a delete action when the VM is deleted... Kind regards, Koen ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
