Re: [Users] ovirt 3.1 and live snapshots

2012-08-10 Thread Shu Ming

I am afraid you should upgrade qemu manually to 1.1 at least.

On 2012-8-10 17:41, Winfried de Heiden wrote:

Hi all,

As mentioned in the oVirt 3.1 release notes:

"Live snapshotting of virtual machines running on virtualization hosts
with QEMU 1.1 or higher is now supported".

What about Fedora 17? The Fedora version is still at 1.01:

rpm -qi qemu-system-x86
Name: qemu-system-x86
Epoch   : 2
Version : 1.0.1
Release : 1.fc17
Architecture: x86_64
Install Date: vr 10 aug 2012 11:33:59 CEST
Group   : Development/Tools
Size: 13594005
License : GPLv2+ and LGPLv2+ and BSD
Signature   : RSA/SHA256, ma 30 jul 2012 20:05:08 CEST, Key ID
50e94c991aca3465
Source RPM  : qemu-1.0.1-1.fc17.src.rpm
Build Date  : ma 30 jul 2012 03:34:33 CEST
Build Host  : x86-01.phx2.fedoraproject.org
Relocations : (not relocatable)
Packager: Fedora Project
Vendor  : Fedora Project
URL : http://www.qemu.org/
Summary : QEMU system emulator for x86

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Re: [Users] ovirt 3.1 and live snapshots

2012-08-10 Thread Andrew Cathrow


- Original Message -
> From: "Shu Ming" 
> To: "Winfried de Heiden" 
> Cc: users@ovirt.org
> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 6:02:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [Users] ovirt 3.1 and live snapshots
> 
> I am afraid you should upgrade qemu manually to 1.1 at least.

Use the virt-preview repository here
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Virtualization_Preview_Repository


> 
> On 2012-8-10 17:41, Winfried de Heiden wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > As mentioned in the oVirt 3.1 release notes:
> >
> > "Live snapshotting of virtual machines running on virtualization
> > hosts
> > with QEMU 1.1 or higher is now supported".
> >
> > What about Fedora 17? The Fedora version is still at 1.01:
> >
> > rpm -qi qemu-system-x86
> > Name: qemu-system-x86
> > Epoch   : 2
> > Version : 1.0.1
> > Release : 1.fc17
> > Architecture: x86_64
> > Install Date: vr 10 aug 2012 11:33:59 CEST
> > Group   : Development/Tools
> > Size: 13594005
> > License : GPLv2+ and LGPLv2+ and BSD
> > Signature   : RSA/SHA256, ma 30 jul 2012 20:05:08 CEST, Key ID
> > 50e94c991aca3465
> > Source RPM  : qemu-1.0.1-1.fc17.src.rpm
> > Build Date  : ma 30 jul 2012 03:34:33 CEST
> > Build Host  : x86-01.phx2.fedoraproject.org
> > Relocations : (not relocatable)
> > Packager: Fedora Project
> > Vendor  : Fedora Project
> > URL : http://www.qemu.org/
> > Summary : QEMU system emulator for x86
> >
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> >
> 
> 
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Re: [Users] ovirt 3.1 and live snapshots

2012-08-13 Thread Winfried de Heiden
Hi All,

Live snapshots is support from qemu 1.1. However, qemu 1.1 is not
included in Fedora 17 or Ovirt-node.

Besides the Virt-preview repo, when is qemu 1.1 expected? Effectively,
there is still no live snapshot support in Ovirt 3.1

Winfried


Op 10-08-12 14:00, Andrew Cathrow schreef:
>
> - Original Message -
>> From: "Shu Ming" 
>> To: "Winfried de Heiden" 
>> Cc: users@ovirt.org
>> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 6:02:18 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Users] ovirt 3.1 and live snapshots
>>
>> I am afraid you should upgrade qemu manually to 1.1 at least.
> Use the virt-preview repository here
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Virtualization_Preview_Repository
>
>
>> On 2012-8-10 17:41, Winfried de Heiden wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> As mentioned in the oVirt 3.1 release notes:
>>>
>>> "Live snapshotting of virtual machines running on virtualization
>>> hosts
>>> with QEMU 1.1 or higher is now supported".
>>>
>>> What about Fedora 17? The Fedora version is still at 1.01:
>>>
>>> rpm -qi qemu-system-x86
>>> Name: qemu-system-x86
>>> Epoch   : 2
>>> Version : 1.0.1
>>> Release : 1.fc17
>>> Architecture: x86_64
>>> Install Date: vr 10 aug 2012 11:33:59 CEST
>>> Group   : Development/Tools
>>> Size: 13594005
>>> License : GPLv2+ and LGPLv2+ and BSD
>>> Signature   : RSA/SHA256, ma 30 jul 2012 20:05:08 CEST, Key ID
>>> 50e94c991aca3465
>>> Source RPM  : qemu-1.0.1-1.fc17.src.rpm
>>> Build Date  : ma 30 jul 2012 03:34:33 CEST
>>> Build Host  : x86-01.phx2.fedoraproject.org
>>> Relocations : (not relocatable)
>>> Packager: Fedora Project
>>> Vendor  : Fedora Project
>>> URL : http://www.qemu.org/
>>> Summary : QEMU system emulator for x86
>>>
>>> ___
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>>> Users@ovirt.org
>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
>>>
>>
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>> Open Virtualization Engineerning; CSTL, IBM Corp.
>> Tel: 86-10-82451626  Tieline: 9051626 E-mail: shum...@cn.ibm.com or
>> shum...@linux.vnet.ibm.com
>> Address: 3/F Ring Building, ZhongGuanCun Software Park, Haidian
>> District, Beijing 100193, PRC
>>
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Re: [Users] ovirt 3.1 and live snapshots

2012-08-13 Thread Andrew Cathrow


- Original Message -
> From: "Winfried de Heiden" 
> To: users@ovirt.org
> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 9:09:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [Users] ovirt 3.1 and live snapshots
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Live snapshots is support from qemu 1.1. However, qemu 1.1 is not
> included in Fedora 17 or Ovirt-node.
> 
> Besides the Virt-preview repo, when is qemu 1.1 expected?
> Effectively,
> there is still no live snapshot support in Ovirt 3.1

The oVirt 3.1 management platform supports live snapshots if you have a qemu 
release that does.

Fedora doesn't update it's qemu mid-release - so you have 3 choices
- use the virt-preview repo
- wait for F18
- compile your own.




> 
> Winfried
> 
> 
> Op 10-08-12 14:00, Andrew Cathrow schreef:
> >
> > - Original Message -
> >> From: "Shu Ming" 
> >> To: "Winfried de Heiden" 
> >> Cc: users@ovirt.org
> >> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 6:02:18 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Users] ovirt 3.1 and live snapshots
> >>
> >> I am afraid you should upgrade qemu manually to 1.1 at least.
> > Use the virt-preview repository here
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Virtualization_Preview_Repository
> >
> >
> >> On 2012-8-10 17:41, Winfried de Heiden wrote:
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> As mentioned in the oVirt 3.1 release notes:
> >>>
> >>> "Live snapshotting of virtual machines running on virtualization
> >>> hosts
> >>> with QEMU 1.1 or higher is now supported".
> >>>
> >>> What about Fedora 17? The Fedora version is still at 1.01:
> >>>
> >>> rpm -qi qemu-system-x86
> >>> Name: qemu-system-x86
> >>> Epoch   : 2
> >>> Version : 1.0.1
> >>> Release : 1.fc17
> >>> Architecture: x86_64
> >>> Install Date: vr 10 aug 2012 11:33:59 CEST
> >>> Group   : Development/Tools
> >>> Size: 13594005
> >>> License : GPLv2+ and LGPLv2+ and BSD
> >>> Signature   : RSA/SHA256, ma 30 jul 2012 20:05:08 CEST, Key ID
> >>> 50e94c991aca3465
> >>> Source RPM  : qemu-1.0.1-1.fc17.src.rpm
> >>> Build Date  : ma 30 jul 2012 03:34:33 CEST
> >>> Build Host  : x86-01.phx2.fedoraproject.org
> >>> Relocations : (not relocatable)
> >>> Packager: Fedora Project
> >>> Vendor  : Fedora Project
> >>> URL : http://www.qemu.org/
> >>> Summary : QEMU system emulator for x86
> >>>
> >>> ___
> >>> Users mailing list
> >>> Users@ovirt.org
> >>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
> >>>
> >>
> >> --
> >> ---
> >> Shu Ming
> >> Open Virtualization Engineerning; CSTL, IBM Corp.
> >> Tel: 86-10-82451626  Tieline: 9051626 E-mail: shum...@cn.ibm.com
> >> or
> >> shum...@linux.vnet.ibm.com
> >> Address: 3/F Ring Building, ZhongGuanCun Software Park, Haidian
> >> District, Beijing 100193, PRC
> >>
> >>
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> >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
> >>
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Re: [Users] ovirt 3.1 and live snapshots

2012-08-13 Thread Karli Sjöberg

13 aug 2012 kl. 16.11 skrev Andrew Cathrow:



- Original Message -
From: "Winfried de Heiden" mailto:w...@dds.nl>>
To: users@ovirt.org<mailto:users@ovirt.org>
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 9:09:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Users] ovirt 3.1 and live snapshots

Hi All,

Live snapshots is support from qemu 1.1. However, qemu 1.1 is not
included in Fedora 17 or Ovirt-node.

Besides the Virt-preview repo, when is qemu 1.1 expected?
Effectively,
there is still no live snapshot support in Ovirt 3.1

The oVirt 3.1 management platform supports live snapshots if you have a qemu 
release that does.

Fedora doesn't update it's qemu mid-release - so you have 3 choices
Thank you Andrew, that was a much clearer answer then was given before when I 
asked it. That was what I wanted to know.

- use the virt-preview repo
- wait for F18
When F17 was released, it took a while for oVirt to be available. Is it going 
to be more or less the same for F18?

- compile your own.





Winfried


Op 10-08-12 14:00, Andrew Cathrow schreef:

- Original Message -
From: "Shu Ming" mailto:shum...@linux.vnet.ibm.com>>
To: "Winfried de Heiden" mailto:w...@dds.nl>>
Cc: users@ovirt.org<mailto:users@ovirt.org>
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 6:02:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Users] ovirt 3.1 and live snapshots

I am afraid you should upgrade qemu manually to 1.1 at least.
Use the virt-preview repository here
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Virtualization_Preview_Repository


On 2012-8-10 17:41, Winfried de Heiden wrote:
Hi all,

As mentioned in the oVirt 3.1 release notes:

"Live snapshotting of virtual machines running on virtualization
hosts
with QEMU 1.1 or higher is now supported".

What about Fedora 17? The Fedora version is still at 1.01:

rpm -qi qemu-system-x86
Name: qemu-system-x86
Epoch   : 2
Version : 1.0.1
Release : 1.fc17
Architecture: x86_64
Install Date: vr 10 aug 2012 11:33:59 CEST
Group   : Development/Tools
Size: 13594005
License : GPLv2+ and LGPLv2+ and BSD
Signature   : RSA/SHA256, ma 30 jul 2012 20:05:08 CEST, Key ID
50e94c991aca3465
Source RPM  : qemu-1.0.1-1.fc17.src.rpm
Build Date  : ma 30 jul 2012 03:34:33 CEST
Build Host  : 
x86-01.phx2.fedoraproject.org<http://x86-01.phx2.fedoraproject.org>
Relocations : (not relocatable)
Packager: Fedora Project
Vendor  : Fedora Project
URL : http://www.qemu.org/
Summary : QEMU system emulator for x86

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Re: [Users] ovirt 3.1 and live snapshots

2012-08-13 Thread Itamar Heim

On 08/14/2012 08:22 AM, Karli Sjöberg wrote:


13 aug 2012 kl. 16.11 skrev Andrew Cathrow:




- Original Message -

From: "Winfried de Heiden" mailto:w...@dds.nl>>
To: users@ovirt.org <mailto:users@ovirt.org>
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 9:09:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Users] ovirt 3.1 and live snapshots

Hi All,

Live snapshots is support from qemu 1.1. However, qemu 1.1 is not
included in Fedora 17 or Ovirt-node.

Besides the Virt-preview repo, when is qemu 1.1 expected?
Effectively,
there is still no live snapshot support in Ovirt 3.1


The oVirt 3.1 management platform supports live snapshots if you have
a qemu release that does.

Fedora *doesn't update it's qemu mid-release* - so you have 3 choices

Thank you Andrew, that was a much clearer answer then was given before
when I asked it. That was what I wanted to know.


- use the virt-preview repo
- wait for F18

When F17 was released, it took a while for oVirt to be available. Is it
going to be more or less the same for F18?


Hi Karli,

can you please elaborate - ovirt 3.0 was part of F17.
we are planning to push ovirt 3.1 to F18.
(still probably missing the web parts due to missing deps, which you 
will need to install from an ovirt repo, rather than out of the box fedora).


Thanks,
   Itamar
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Re: [Users] ovirt 3.1 and live snapshots

2012-08-13 Thread Karli Sjöberg

14 aug 2012 kl. 08.07 skrev Itamar Heim:

On 08/14/2012 08:22 AM, Karli Sjöberg wrote:

13 aug 2012 kl. 16.11 skrev Andrew Cathrow:



- Original Message -
From: "Winfried de Heiden" mailto:w...@dds.nl> 
<mailto:w...@dds.nl>>
To: users@ovirt.org<mailto:users@ovirt.org> <mailto:users@ovirt.org>
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 9:09:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Users] ovirt 3.1 and live snapshots

Hi All,

Live snapshots is support from qemu 1.1. However, qemu 1.1 is not
included in Fedora 17 or Ovirt-node.

Besides the Virt-preview repo, when is qemu 1.1 expected?
Effectively,
there is still no live snapshot support in Ovirt 3.1

The oVirt 3.1 management platform supports live snapshots if you have
a qemu release that does.

Fedora *doesn't update it's qemu mid-release* - so you have 3 choices
Thank you Andrew, that was a much clearer answer then was given before
when I asked it. That was what I wanted to know.

- use the virt-preview repo
- wait for F18
When F17 was released, it took a while for oVirt to be available. Is it
going to be more or less the same for F18?

Hi Karli,

can you please elaborate - ovirt 3.0 was part of F17.
we are planning to push ovirt 3.1 to F18.
(still probably missing the web parts due to missing deps, which you
will need to install from an ovirt repo, rather than out of the box fedora).

Yes, I meant by using your repo to install, as instructed on 
ovirt.org<http://ovirt.org> website.

On a sidenote, oVirt missing webadmin and userportal in F17 OOTB wasn´t at all 
what I expected when I read "now shipping with oVirt" in F17´s release notes, 
which got me very excited. But then I had a little WTF!? moment after install 
and noticed that you couldn´t actually do anything with it:) Besides scripting 
through API of course. But it left me feeling a little bit fooled, you know.
With live snapshotting, it´s the same deal. There shouldn´t be any "ifs" to it. 
You have live snapshots "if". Better to say straight up that live snapshotting 
will be supported after you have working release of oVirt for F18, in my 
opinion. And then say, "But you can help us test it right now, if you enable 
the "Virtualization Preview Repository". Make sure to buckle up".
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Virtualization_Preview_Repository
"This repository is intended primarily as an aid to testing / early 
experimentation. It is not intended for 'production' deployment."

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