Re: [ovirt-users] ?3.4: VDSM Memory consumption

2014-10-01 Thread Daniel Helgenberger

On 30.09.2014 17:09, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
> Il 30/09/2014 17:03, Dan Kenigsberg ha scritto:
>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 10:23:47AM +, Daniel Helgenberger wrote:
>>> On 30.09.2014 11:57, Piotr Kliczewski wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>> From: "Daniel Helgenberger" 
>>>>> To: "Piotr Kliczewski" , "Dan Kenigsberg" 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cc: "Francesco Romani" , users@ovirt.org
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 11:50:28 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]?3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Piotr,
>>>>>
>>>>> On 30.09.2014 08:37, Piotr Kliczewski wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>>>> From: "Dan Kenigsberg" 
>>>>>>> To: "Daniel Helgenberger" ,
>>>>>>> pklic...@redhat.com
>>>>>>> Cc: "Francesco Romani" , users@ovirt.org
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 1:11:42 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]?3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 09:02:19PM +, Daniel Helgenberger wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hello Francesco,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Daniel Helgenberger
>>>>>>>> m box bewegtbild GmbH
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> P: +49/30/2408781-22
>>>>>>>> F: +49/30/2408781-10
>>>>>>>> ACKERSTR. 19
>>>>>>>> D-10115 BERLIN
>>>>>>>> www.m-box.de  www.monkeymen.tv
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 29.09.2014, at 22:19, Francesco Romani  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Daniel Helgenberger" 
>>>>>>>>>> To: "Francesco Romani" 
>>>>>>>>>> Cc: "Dan Kenigsberg" , users@ovirt.org
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:54:13 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello Francesco,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 29.09.2014 13:55, Francesco Romani wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Daniel Helgenberger" 
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "Dan Kenigsberg" 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: users@ovirt.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 12:25:22 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dan,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I just reply to the list since I do not want to clutter BZ:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> While migrating VMs is easy (and the sampling is already running),
>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>> someone tell me the correct polling port to block with iptables?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Daniel,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> there is indeed a memory profiling patch under discussion:
>>>>>>>>>>> http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/32019/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> but for your case we'll need a backport to 3.4.x and clearer install
>>>>>>>>>>> instructions,
>>>>>>>>>>> which I'll prepare as soon as possible.
>>>>>>>>>> I updated the BZ (and are now blocking 54321/tcp on one of my hosts).
>>>>>>>>>> and verified it is not reachable. As  general info: This system I am
>>>>>>>>>> using is my LAB / Test / eval setup for a final de

Re: [ovirt-users] ?3.4: VDSM Memory consumption

2014-09-30 Thread Daniel Helgenberger
Hello Sandro,


On Di, 2014-09-30 at 17:09 +0200, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
> Il 30/09/2014 17:03, Dan Kenigsberg ha scritto:
> > On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 10:23:47AM +, Daniel Helgenberger wrote:
> >>
> >> On 30.09.2014 11:57, Piotr Kliczewski wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> - Original Message -
> >>>> From: "Daniel Helgenberger" 
> >>>> To: "Piotr Kliczewski" , "Dan Kenigsberg" 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Cc: "Francesco Romani" , users@ovirt.org
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 11:50:28 AM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]?3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
> >>>>
> >>>> Hello Piotr,
> >>>>
> >>>> On 30.09.2014 08:37, Piotr Kliczewski wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> - Original Message -
> >>>>>> From: "Dan Kenigsberg" 
> >>>>>> To: "Daniel Helgenberger" ,
> >>>>>> pklic...@redhat.com
> >>>>>> Cc: "Francesco Romani" , users@ovirt.org
> >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 1:11:42 AM
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]?3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 09:02:19PM +, Daniel Helgenberger wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hello Francesco,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Daniel Helgenberger
> >>>>>>> m box bewegtbild GmbH
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> P: +49/30/2408781-22
> >>>>>>> F: +49/30/2408781-10
> >>>>>>> ACKERSTR. 19
> >>>>>>> D-10115 BERLIN
> >>>>>>> www.m-box.de  www.monkeymen.tv
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 29.09.2014, at 22:19, Francesco Romani  wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> - Original Message -
> >>>>>>>>> From: "Daniel Helgenberger" 
> >>>>>>>>> To: "Francesco Romani" 
> >>>>>>>>> Cc: "Dan Kenigsberg" , users@ovirt.org
> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:54:13 PM
> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hello Francesco,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 29.09.2014 13:55, Francesco Romani wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> - Original Message -
> >>>>>>>>>>> From: "Daniel Helgenberger" 
> >>>>>>>>>>> To: "Dan Kenigsberg" 
> >>>>>>>>>>> Cc: users@ovirt.org
> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 12:25:22 PM
> >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Dan,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I just reply to the list since I do not want to clutter BZ:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> While migrating VMs is easy (and the sampling is already running),
> >>>>>>>>>>> can
> >>>>>>>>>>> someone tell me the correct polling port to block with iptables?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Daniel,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> there is indeed a memory profiling patch under discussion:
> >>>>>>>>>> http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/32019/
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> but for your case we'll need a backport to 3.4.x and clearer 
> >>>>>>>>>> install
> >>>>>>>>>> instructions,
> >>>>>>>>>> which I'll prepare as soon as possible.
> >>>>>>>>> I updated the BZ (and are now blocking 54321/tcp on one of my 
>

Re: [ovirt-users] ?3.4: VDSM Memory consumption

2014-09-30 Thread Daniel Helgenberger
On Di, 2014-09-30 at 16:04 +0100, Dan Kenigsberg wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 10:17:59AM +, Daniel Helgenberger wrote:
> > 
> > On 30.09.2014 11:57, Piotr Kliczewski wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > >> From: "Daniel Helgenberger" 
> > >> To: "Piotr Kliczewski" , "Dan Kenigsberg" 
> > >> 
> > >> Cc: "Francesco Romani" , users@ovirt.org
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 11:50:28 AM
> > >> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]?3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
> > >>
> > >> Hello Piotr,
> > >>
> > >> On 30.09.2014 08:37, Piotr Kliczewski wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> - Original Message -
> > >>>> From: "Dan Kenigsberg" 
> > >>>> To: "Daniel Helgenberger" ,
> > >>>> pklic...@redhat.com
> > >>>> Cc: "Francesco Romani" , users@ovirt.org
> > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 1:11:42 AM
> > >>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]?3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 09:02:19PM +, Daniel Helgenberger wrote:
> > >>>>> Hello Francesco,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> Daniel Helgenberger
> > >>>>> m box bewegtbild GmbH
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> P: +49/30/2408781-22
> > >>>>> F: +49/30/2408781-10
> > >>>>> ACKERSTR. 19
> > >>>>> D-10115 BERLIN
> > >>>>> www.m-box.de  www.monkeymen.tv
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> On 29.09.2014, at 22:19, Francesco Romani  wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> - Original Message -
> > >>>>>>> From: "Daniel Helgenberger" 
> > >>>>>>> To: "Francesco Romani" 
> > >>>>>>> Cc: "Dan Kenigsberg" , users@ovirt.org
> > >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:54:13 PM
> > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Hello Francesco,
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On 29.09.2014 13:55, Francesco Romani wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> - Original Message -
> > >>>>>>>>> From: "Daniel Helgenberger" 
> > >>>>>>>>> To: "Dan Kenigsberg" 
> > >>>>>>>>> Cc: users@ovirt.org
> > >>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 12:25:22 PM
> > >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Dan,
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> I just reply to the list since I do not want to clutter BZ:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> While migrating VMs is easy (and the sampling is already running),
> > >>>>>>>>> can
> > >>>>>>>>> someone tell me the correct polling port to block with iptables?
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>>>> Hi Daniel,
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> there is indeed a memory profiling patch under discussion:
> > >>>>>>>> http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/32019/
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> but for your case we'll need a backport to 3.4.x and clearer 
> > >>>>>>>> install
> > >>>>>>>> instructions,
> > >>>>>>>> which I'll prepare as soon as possible.
> > >>>>>>> I updated the BZ (and are now blocking 54321/tcp on one of my 
> > >>>>>>> hosts).
> > >>>>>>> and verified it is not reachable. As  general info: This system I am
> > >>>>>>> using is my LAB / Test / eval setup for a final deployment for ovirt
> > >>>>>>> (then 3.5)

Re: [ovirt-users] ?3.4: VDSM Memory consumption

2014-09-30 Thread Sandro Bonazzola
Il 30/09/2014 17:03, Dan Kenigsberg ha scritto:
> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 10:23:47AM +, Daniel Helgenberger wrote:
>>
>> On 30.09.2014 11:57, Piotr Kliczewski wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: "Daniel Helgenberger" 
>>>> To: "Piotr Kliczewski" , "Dan Kenigsberg" 
>>>> 
>>>> Cc: "Francesco Romani" , users@ovirt.org
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 11:50:28 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]?3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
>>>>
>>>> Hello Piotr,
>>>>
>>>> On 30.09.2014 08:37, Piotr Kliczewski wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -
>>>>>> From: "Dan Kenigsberg" 
>>>>>> To: "Daniel Helgenberger" ,
>>>>>> pklic...@redhat.com
>>>>>> Cc: "Francesco Romani" , users@ovirt.org
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 1:11:42 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]?3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 09:02:19PM +, Daniel Helgenberger wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello Francesco,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Daniel Helgenberger
>>>>>>> m box bewegtbild GmbH
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> P: +49/30/2408781-22
>>>>>>> F: +49/30/2408781-10
>>>>>>> ACKERSTR. 19
>>>>>>> D-10115 BERLIN
>>>>>>> www.m-box.de  www.monkeymen.tv
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 29.09.2014, at 22:19, Francesco Romani  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>>>>>> From: "Daniel Helgenberger" 
>>>>>>>>> To: "Francesco Romani" 
>>>>>>>>> Cc: "Dan Kenigsberg" , users@ovirt.org
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:54:13 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello Francesco,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 29.09.2014 13:55, Francesco Romani wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Daniel Helgenberger" 
>>>>>>>>>>> To: "Dan Kenigsberg" 
>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: users@ovirt.org
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 12:25:22 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dan,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I just reply to the list since I do not want to clutter BZ:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> While migrating VMs is easy (and the sampling is already running),
>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>> someone tell me the correct polling port to block with iptables?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Daniel,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> there is indeed a memory profiling patch under discussion:
>>>>>>>>>> http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/32019/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> but for your case we'll need a backport to 3.4.x and clearer install
>>>>>>>>>> instructions,
>>>>>>>>>> which I'll prepare as soon as possible.
>>>>>>>>> I updated the BZ (and are now blocking 54321/tcp on one of my hosts).
>>>>>>>>> and verified it is not reachable. As  general info: This system I am
>>>>>>>>> using is my LAB / Test / eval setup for a final deployment for ovirt
>>>>>>>>> (then 3.5) in production; so it will go away some time in the future 
>>>>>>>>> (a
>>>>>>>>> few weeks / months). If I am the only one experiencing this problem
>>>>>>>>> the

Re: [ovirt-users] ?3.4: VDSM Memory consumption

2014-09-30 Thread Dan Kenigsberg
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 10:17:59AM +, Daniel Helgenberger wrote:
> 
> On 30.09.2014 11:57, Piotr Kliczewski wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> >> From: "Daniel Helgenberger" 
> >> To: "Piotr Kliczewski" , "Dan Kenigsberg" 
> >> 
> >> Cc: "Francesco Romani" , users@ovirt.org
> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 11:50:28 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]?3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
> >>
> >> Hello Piotr,
> >>
> >> On 30.09.2014 08:37, Piotr Kliczewski wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> - Original Message -
> >>>> From: "Dan Kenigsberg" 
> >>>> To: "Daniel Helgenberger" ,
> >>>> pklic...@redhat.com
> >>>> Cc: "Francesco Romani" , users@ovirt.org
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 1:11:42 AM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]?3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 09:02:19PM +, Daniel Helgenberger wrote:
> >>>>> Hello Francesco,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Daniel Helgenberger
> >>>>> m box bewegtbild GmbH
> >>>>>
> >>>>> P: +49/30/2408781-22
> >>>>> F: +49/30/2408781-10
> >>>>> ACKERSTR. 19
> >>>>> D-10115 BERLIN
> >>>>> www.m-box.de  www.monkeymen.tv
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 29.09.2014, at 22:19, Francesco Romani  wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>> From: "Daniel Helgenberger" 
> >>>>>>> To: "Francesco Romani" 
> >>>>>>> Cc: "Dan Kenigsberg" , users@ovirt.org
> >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:54:13 PM
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hello Francesco,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 29.09.2014 13:55, Francesco Romani wrote:
> >>>>>>>> - Original Message -
> >>>>>>>>> From: "Daniel Helgenberger" 
> >>>>>>>>> To: "Dan Kenigsberg" 
> >>>>>>>>> Cc: users@ovirt.org
> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 12:25:22 PM
> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Dan,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I just reply to the list since I do not want to clutter BZ:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> While migrating VMs is easy (and the sampling is already running),
> >>>>>>>>> can
> >>>>>>>>> someone tell me the correct polling port to block with iptables?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>> Hi Daniel,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> there is indeed a memory profiling patch under discussion:
> >>>>>>>> http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/32019/
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> but for your case we'll need a backport to 3.4.x and clearer install
> >>>>>>>> instructions,
> >>>>>>>> which I'll prepare as soon as possible.
> >>>>>>> I updated the BZ (and are now blocking 54321/tcp on one of my hosts).
> >>>>>>> and verified it is not reachable. As  general info: This system I am
> >>>>>>> using is my LAB / Test / eval setup for a final deployment for ovirt
> >>>>>>> (then 3.5) in production; so it will go away some time in the future 
> >>>>>>> (a
> >>>>>>> few weeks / months). If I am the only one experiencing this problem
> >>>>>>> then
> >>>>>>> you might be better of allocating resources elsewhere ;)
> >>>>>> Thanks for your understanding :)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Unfortunately it is true that developer resources aren't so abundant,
> 

Re: [ovirt-users] ?3.4: VDSM Memory consumption

2014-09-30 Thread Dan Kenigsberg
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 10:23:47AM +, Daniel Helgenberger wrote:
> 
> On 30.09.2014 11:57, Piotr Kliczewski wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> >> From: "Daniel Helgenberger" 
> >> To: "Piotr Kliczewski" , "Dan Kenigsberg" 
> >> 
> >> Cc: "Francesco Romani" , users@ovirt.org
> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 11:50:28 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]?3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
> >>
> >> Hello Piotr,
> >>
> >> On 30.09.2014 08:37, Piotr Kliczewski wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> - Original Message -
> >>>> From: "Dan Kenigsberg" 
> >>>> To: "Daniel Helgenberger" ,
> >>>> pklic...@redhat.com
> >>>> Cc: "Francesco Romani" , users@ovirt.org
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 1:11:42 AM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]?3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 09:02:19PM +, Daniel Helgenberger wrote:
> >>>>> Hello Francesco,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Daniel Helgenberger
> >>>>> m box bewegtbild GmbH
> >>>>>
> >>>>> P: +49/30/2408781-22
> >>>>> F: +49/30/2408781-10
> >>>>> ACKERSTR. 19
> >>>>> D-10115 BERLIN
> >>>>> www.m-box.de  www.monkeymen.tv
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 29.09.2014, at 22:19, Francesco Romani  wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>> From: "Daniel Helgenberger" 
> >>>>>>> To: "Francesco Romani" 
> >>>>>>> Cc: "Dan Kenigsberg" , users@ovirt.org
> >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:54:13 PM
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hello Francesco,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 29.09.2014 13:55, Francesco Romani wrote:
> >>>>>>>> - Original Message -
> >>>>>>>>> From: "Daniel Helgenberger" 
> >>>>>>>>> To: "Dan Kenigsberg" 
> >>>>>>>>> Cc: users@ovirt.org
> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 12:25:22 PM
> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Dan,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I just reply to the list since I do not want to clutter BZ:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> While migrating VMs is easy (and the sampling is already running),
> >>>>>>>>> can
> >>>>>>>>> someone tell me the correct polling port to block with iptables?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>> Hi Daniel,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> there is indeed a memory profiling patch under discussion:
> >>>>>>>> http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/32019/
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> but for your case we'll need a backport to 3.4.x and clearer install
> >>>>>>>> instructions,
> >>>>>>>> which I'll prepare as soon as possible.
> >>>>>>> I updated the BZ (and are now blocking 54321/tcp on one of my hosts).
> >>>>>>> and verified it is not reachable. As  general info: This system I am
> >>>>>>> using is my LAB / Test / eval setup for a final deployment for ovirt
> >>>>>>> (then 3.5) in production; so it will go away some time in the future 
> >>>>>>> (a
> >>>>>>> few weeks / months). If I am the only one experiencing this problem
> >>>>>>> then
> >>>>>>> you might be better of allocating resources elsewhere ;)
> >>>>>> Thanks for your understanding :)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Unfortunately it is true that developer resources aren't so abundant,
> 

Re: [ovirt-users] ?3.4: VDSM Memory consumption

2014-09-30 Thread Daniel Helgenberger

On 30.09.2014 11:57, Piotr Kliczewski wrote:
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
>> From: "Daniel Helgenberger" 
>> To: "Piotr Kliczewski" , "Dan Kenigsberg" 
>> 
>> Cc: "Francesco Romani" , users@ovirt.org
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 11:50:28 AM
>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]?3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
>>
>> Hello Piotr,
>>
>> On 30.09.2014 08:37, Piotr Kliczewski wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: "Dan Kenigsberg" 
>>>> To: "Daniel Helgenberger" ,
>>>> pklic...@redhat.com
>>>> Cc: "Francesco Romani" , users@ovirt.org
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 1:11:42 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]?3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 09:02:19PM +, Daniel Helgenberger wrote:
>>>>> Hello Francesco,
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Daniel Helgenberger
>>>>> m box bewegtbild GmbH
>>>>>
>>>>> P: +49/30/2408781-22
>>>>> F: +49/30/2408781-10
>>>>> ACKERSTR. 19
>>>>> D-10115 BERLIN
>>>>> www.m-box.de  www.monkeymen.tv
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 29.09.2014, at 22:19, Francesco Romani  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>>>> From: "Daniel Helgenberger" 
>>>>>>> To: "Francesco Romani" 
>>>>>>> Cc: "Dan Kenigsberg" , users@ovirt.org
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:54:13 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Francesco,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 29.09.2014 13:55, Francesco Romani wrote:
>>>>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>>>>>> From: "Daniel Helgenberger" 
>>>>>>>>> To: "Dan Kenigsberg" 
>>>>>>>>> Cc: users@ovirt.org
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 12:25:22 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dan,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I just reply to the list since I do not want to clutter BZ:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> While migrating VMs is easy (and the sampling is already running),
>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>> someone tell me the correct polling port to block with iptables?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Hi Daniel,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> there is indeed a memory profiling patch under discussion:
>>>>>>>> http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/32019/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> but for your case we'll need a backport to 3.4.x and clearer install
>>>>>>>> instructions,
>>>>>>>> which I'll prepare as soon as possible.
>>>>>>> I updated the BZ (and are now blocking 54321/tcp on one of my hosts).
>>>>>>> and verified it is not reachable. As  general info: This system I am
>>>>>>> using is my LAB / Test / eval setup for a final deployment for ovirt
>>>>>>> (then 3.5) in production; so it will go away some time in the future (a
>>>>>>> few weeks / months). If I am the only one experiencing this problem
>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>> you might be better of allocating resources elsewhere ;)
>>>>>> Thanks for your understanding :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unfortunately it is true that developer resources aren't so abundant,
>>>>>> but it is also true that memleaks should never be discarded easily and
>>>>>> without
>>>>>> due investigation, considering the nature and the role of VDSM.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, I'm all in for further investigation regarding this issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As for your question: if I understood correctly what you are asking
>>>>>>>> (still catching up the thread), if you are

Re: [ovirt-users] ?3.4: VDSM Memory consumption

2014-09-30 Thread Daniel Helgenberger

On 30.09.2014 11:57, Piotr Kliczewski wrote:
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
>> From: "Daniel Helgenberger" 
>> To: "Piotr Kliczewski" , "Dan Kenigsberg" 
>> 
>> Cc: "Francesco Romani" , users@ovirt.org
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 11:50:28 AM
>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]?3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
>>
>> Hello Piotr,
>>
>> On 30.09.2014 08:37, Piotr Kliczewski wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: "Dan Kenigsberg" 
>>>> To: "Daniel Helgenberger" ,
>>>> pklic...@redhat.com
>>>> Cc: "Francesco Romani" , users@ovirt.org
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 1:11:42 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]?3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 09:02:19PM +, Daniel Helgenberger wrote:
>>>>> Hello Francesco,
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Daniel Helgenberger
>>>>> m box bewegtbild GmbH
>>>>>
>>>>> P: +49/30/2408781-22
>>>>> F: +49/30/2408781-10
>>>>> ACKERSTR. 19
>>>>> D-10115 BERLIN
>>>>> www.m-box.de  www.monkeymen.tv
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 29.09.2014, at 22:19, Francesco Romani  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>>>> From: "Daniel Helgenberger" 
>>>>>>> To: "Francesco Romani" 
>>>>>>> Cc: "Dan Kenigsberg" , users@ovirt.org
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:54:13 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Francesco,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 29.09.2014 13:55, Francesco Romani wrote:
>>>>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>>>>>> From: "Daniel Helgenberger" 
>>>>>>>>> To: "Dan Kenigsberg" 
>>>>>>>>> Cc: users@ovirt.org
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 12:25:22 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dan,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I just reply to the list since I do not want to clutter BZ:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> While migrating VMs is easy (and the sampling is already running),
>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>> someone tell me the correct polling port to block with iptables?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Hi Daniel,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> there is indeed a memory profiling patch under discussion:
>>>>>>>> http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/32019/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> but for your case we'll need a backport to 3.4.x and clearer install
>>>>>>>> instructions,
>>>>>>>> which I'll prepare as soon as possible.
>>>>>>> I updated the BZ (and are now blocking 54321/tcp on one of my hosts).
>>>>>>> and verified it is not reachable. As  general info: This system I am
>>>>>>> using is my LAB / Test / eval setup for a final deployment for ovirt
>>>>>>> (then 3.5) in production; so it will go away some time in the future (a
>>>>>>> few weeks / months). If I am the only one experiencing this problem
>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>> you might be better of allocating resources elsewhere ;)
>>>>>> Thanks for your understanding :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unfortunately it is true that developer resources aren't so abundant,
>>>>>> but it is also true that memleaks should never be discarded easily and
>>>>>> without
>>>>>> due investigation, considering the nature and the role of VDSM.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, I'm all in for further investigation regarding this issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As for your question: if I understood correctly what you are asking
>>>>>>>> (still catching up the thread), if you are

Re: [ovirt-users] ?3.4: VDSM Memory consumption

2014-09-30 Thread Piotr Kliczewski




- Original Message -
> From: "Daniel Helgenberger" 
> To: "Piotr Kliczewski" , "Dan Kenigsberg" 
> 
> Cc: "Francesco Romani" , users@ovirt.org
> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 11:50:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]?3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
> 
> Hello Piotr,
> 
> On 30.09.2014 08:37, Piotr Kliczewski wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> >> From: "Dan Kenigsberg" 
> >> To: "Daniel Helgenberger" ,
> >> pklic...@redhat.com
> >> Cc: "Francesco Romani" , users@ovirt.org
> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 1:11:42 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]?3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
> >>
> >> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 09:02:19PM +, Daniel Helgenberger wrote:
> >>> Hello Francesco,
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Daniel Helgenberger
> >>> m box bewegtbild GmbH
> >>>
> >>> P: +49/30/2408781-22
> >>> F: +49/30/2408781-10
> >>> ACKERSTR. 19
> >>> D-10115 BERLIN
> >>> www.m-box.de  www.monkeymen.tv
> >>>
> >>>> On 29.09.2014, at 22:19, Francesco Romani  wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> - Original Message -
> >>>>> From: "Daniel Helgenberger" 
> >>>>> To: "Francesco Romani" 
> >>>>> Cc: "Dan Kenigsberg" , users@ovirt.org
> >>>>> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:54:13 PM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hello Francesco,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 29.09.2014 13:55, Francesco Romani wrote:
> >>>>>> - Original Message -
> >>>>>>> From: "Daniel Helgenberger" 
> >>>>>>> To: "Dan Kenigsberg" 
> >>>>>>> Cc: users@ovirt.org
> >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 12:25:22 PM
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Dan,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I just reply to the list since I do not want to clutter BZ:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> While migrating VMs is easy (and the sampling is already running),
> >>>>>>> can
> >>>>>>> someone tell me the correct polling port to block with iptables?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>> Hi Daniel,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> there is indeed a memory profiling patch under discussion:
> >>>>>> http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/32019/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> but for your case we'll need a backport to 3.4.x and clearer install
> >>>>>> instructions,
> >>>>>> which I'll prepare as soon as possible.
> >>>>> I updated the BZ (and are now blocking 54321/tcp on one of my hosts).
> >>>>> and verified it is not reachable. As  general info: This system I am
> >>>>> using is my LAB / Test / eval setup for a final deployment for ovirt
> >>>>> (then 3.5) in production; so it will go away some time in the future (a
> >>>>> few weeks / months). If I am the only one experiencing this problem
> >>>>> then
> >>>>> you might be better of allocating resources elsewhere ;)
> >>>> Thanks for your understanding :)
> >>>>
> >>>> Unfortunately it is true that developer resources aren't so abundant,
> >>>> but it is also true that memleaks should never be discarded easily and
> >>>> without
> >>>> due investigation, considering the nature and the role of VDSM.
> >>>>
> >>>> So, I'm all in for further investigation regarding this issue.
> >>>>
> >>>>>> As for your question: if I understood correctly what you are asking
> >>>>>> (still catching up the thread), if you are trying to rule out the
> >>>>>> stats
> >>>>>> polling
> >>>>>> made by Engine to this bad leak, one simple way to test is just to
> >>>>>> shutdown
> >>>>>> Engine,
> >>>>>> and let VDSMs run u

Re: [ovirt-users] ?3.4: VDSM Memory consumption

2014-09-30 Thread Daniel Helgenberger
Hello Piotr,

On 30.09.2014 08:37, Piotr Kliczewski wrote:
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
>> From: "Dan Kenigsberg" 
>> To: "Daniel Helgenberger" , pklic...@redhat.com
>> Cc: "Francesco Romani" , users@ovirt.org
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 1:11:42 AM
>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]?3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 09:02:19PM +, Daniel Helgenberger wrote:
>>> Hello Francesco,
>>>
>>> --
>>> Daniel Helgenberger
>>> m box bewegtbild GmbH
>>>
>>> P: +49/30/2408781-22
>>> F: +49/30/2408781-10
>>> ACKERSTR. 19
>>> D-10115 BERLIN
>>> www.m-box.de  www.monkeymen.tv
>>>
>>>> On 29.09.2014, at 22:19, Francesco Romani  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Daniel Helgenberger" 
>>>>> To: "Francesco Romani" 
>>>>> Cc: "Dan Kenigsberg" , users@ovirt.org
>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:54:13 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Francesco,
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 29.09.2014 13:55, Francesco Romani wrote:
>>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>>>> From: "Daniel Helgenberger" 
>>>>>>> To: "Dan Kenigsberg" 
>>>>>>> Cc: users@ovirt.org
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 12:25:22 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dan,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just reply to the list since I do not want to clutter BZ:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> While migrating VMs is easy (and the sampling is already running), can
>>>>>>> someone tell me the correct polling port to block with iptables?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Hi Daniel,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> there is indeed a memory profiling patch under discussion:
>>>>>> http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/32019/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> but for your case we'll need a backport to 3.4.x and clearer install
>>>>>> instructions,
>>>>>> which I'll prepare as soon as possible.
>>>>> I updated the BZ (and are now blocking 54321/tcp on one of my hosts).
>>>>> and verified it is not reachable. As  general info: This system I am
>>>>> using is my LAB / Test / eval setup for a final deployment for ovirt
>>>>> (then 3.5) in production; so it will go away some time in the future (a
>>>>> few weeks / months). If I am the only one experiencing this problem then
>>>>> you might be better of allocating resources elsewhere ;)
>>>> Thanks for your understanding :)
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately it is true that developer resources aren't so abundant,
>>>> but it is also true that memleaks should never be discarded easily and
>>>> without
>>>> due investigation, considering the nature and the role of VDSM.
>>>>
>>>> So, I'm all in for further investigation regarding this issue.
>>>>
>>>>>> As for your question: if I understood correctly what you are asking
>>>>>> (still catching up the thread), if you are trying to rule out the stats
>>>>>> polling
>>>>>> made by Engine to this bad leak, one simple way to test is just to
>>>>>> shutdown
>>>>>> Engine,
>>>>>> and let VDSMs run unguarded on hypervisors. You'll be able to command
>>>>>> these
>>>>>> VDSMs using vdsClient or restarting Engine.
>>>>> As I said in my BZ comment this is not an option right now, but if
>>>>> understand the matter correctly IPTABLES reject should ultimately do the
>>>>> same?
>>>> Definitely yes! Just do whatever it is more convenient for you.
>>>>
>>> As you might have already seen in the BZ comment the leak stopped after
>>> blocking the port. Though this is clearly no permanent option - please let
>>> me know if I can be of any more assistance!
>> The immediate suspect in this situation is M2Crypto. Could you verify
>> that by re-opening the firewall and setting ssl=False in vdsm.conf?
>>
>> You should disable ssl on Engine side and restart both Engine and Vdsm
>> (too bad I do not recall how that's done on Engine: Piotr, can you help?).
>>
> In vdc_options table there is option EncryptHostCommunication.
Please confirm the following procedure is correct:

1. Change Postgres table value:
# sudo -u postgres psql -U postgres engine -c "update vdc_options set
option_value = 'false' where option_name = 'EncryptHostCommunication';"
engine=# SELECT * from vdc_options where
option_name='EncryptHostCommunication';
 option_id |   option_name| option_value | version
---+--+--+-
   335 | EncryptHostCommunication | false| general
(1 row)

2. Restart engine
3. On the hosts;
grep ssl /etc/vdsm/vdsm.conf
#ssl = true
ssl = false

4. restart VDSM

I assume I have to set 'ssl = false' this on on all hosts?
> Please to set it to false and restart the engine.
>

-- 
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Re: [ovirt-users] ?3.4: VDSM Memory consumption

2014-09-29 Thread Piotr Kliczewski




- Original Message -
> From: "Dan Kenigsberg" 
> To: "Daniel Helgenberger" , pklic...@redhat.com
> Cc: "Francesco Romani" , users@ovirt.org
> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 1:11:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]?3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
> 
> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 09:02:19PM +, Daniel Helgenberger wrote:
> > Hello Francesco,
> > 
> > --
> > Daniel Helgenberger
> > m box bewegtbild GmbH
> > 
> > P: +49/30/2408781-22
> > F: +49/30/2408781-10
> > ACKERSTR. 19
> > D-10115 BERLIN
> > www.m-box.de  www.monkeymen.tv
> > 
> > > On 29.09.2014, at 22:19, Francesco Romani  wrote:
> > > 
> > > - Original Message -
> > >> From: "Daniel Helgenberger" 
> > >> To: "Francesco Romani" 
> > >> Cc: "Dan Kenigsberg" , users@ovirt.org
> > >> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:54:13 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
> > >> 
> > >> Hello Francesco,
> > >> 
> > >>> On 29.09.2014 13:55, Francesco Romani wrote:
> > >>> - Original Message -
> > >>>> From: "Daniel Helgenberger" 
> > >>>> To: "Dan Kenigsberg" 
> > >>>> Cc: users@ovirt.org
> > >>>> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 12:25:22 PM
> > >>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> Dan,
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> I just reply to the list since I do not want to clutter BZ:
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> While migrating VMs is easy (and the sampling is already running), can
> > >>>> someone tell me the correct polling port to block with iptables?
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> Thanks,
> > >>> Hi Daniel,
> > >>> 
> > >>> there is indeed a memory profiling patch under discussion:
> > >>> http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/32019/
> > >>> 
> > >>> but for your case we'll need a backport to 3.4.x and clearer install
> > >>> instructions,
> > >>> which I'll prepare as soon as possible.
> > >> I updated the BZ (and are now blocking 54321/tcp on one of my hosts).
> > >> and verified it is not reachable. As  general info: This system I am
> > >> using is my LAB / Test / eval setup for a final deployment for ovirt
> > >> (then 3.5) in production; so it will go away some time in the future (a
> > >> few weeks / months). If I am the only one experiencing this problem then
> > >> you might be better of allocating resources elsewhere ;)
> > > 
> > > Thanks for your understanding :)
> > > 
> > > Unfortunately it is true that developer resources aren't so abundant,
> > > but it is also true that memleaks should never be discarded easily and
> > > without
> > > due investigation, considering the nature and the role of VDSM.
> > > 
> > > So, I'm all in for further investigation regarding this issue.
> > > 
> > >>> As for your question: if I understood correctly what you are asking
> > >>> (still catching up the thread), if you are trying to rule out the stats
> > >>> polling
> > >>> made by Engine to this bad leak, one simple way to test is just to
> > >>> shutdown
> > >>> Engine,
> > >>> and let VDSMs run unguarded on hypervisors. You'll be able to command
> > >>> these
> > >>> VDSMs using vdsClient or restarting Engine.
> > >> As I said in my BZ comment this is not an option right now, but if
> > >> understand the matter correctly IPTABLES reject should ultimately do the
> > >> same?
> > > 
> > > Definitely yes! Just do whatever it is more convenient for you.
> > > 
> > As you might have already seen in the BZ comment the leak stopped after
> > blocking the port. Though this is clearly no permanent option - please let
> > me know if I can be of any more assistance!
> 
> The immediate suspect in this situation is M2Crypto. Could you verify
> that by re-opening the firewall and setting ssl=False in vdsm.conf?
> 
> You should disable ssl on Engine side and restart both Engine and Vdsm
> (too bad I do not recall how that's done on Engine: Piotr, can you help?).
> 

In vdc_options table there is option EncryptHostCommunication.
Please to set it to false and restart the engine.
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Re: [ovirt-users] ?3.4: VDSM Memory consumption

2014-09-29 Thread Dan Kenigsberg
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 09:02:19PM +, Daniel Helgenberger wrote:
> Hello Francesco,
> 
> -- 
> Daniel Helgenberger 
> m box bewegtbild GmbH 
> 
> P: +49/30/2408781-22
> F: +49/30/2408781-10
> ACKERSTR. 19 
> D-10115 BERLIN 
> www.m-box.de  www.monkeymen.tv 
> 
> > On 29.09.2014, at 22:19, Francesco Romani  wrote:
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> >> From: "Daniel Helgenberger" 
> >> To: "Francesco Romani" 
> >> Cc: "Dan Kenigsberg" , users@ovirt.org
> >> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:54:13 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
> >> 
> >> Hello Francesco,
> >> 
> >>> On 29.09.2014 13:55, Francesco Romani wrote:
> >>> - Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Daniel Helgenberger" 
> >>>> To: "Dan Kenigsberg" 
> >>>> Cc: users@ovirt.org
> >>>> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 12:25:22 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
> >>>> 
> >>>> Dan,
> >>>> 
> >>>> I just reply to the list since I do not want to clutter BZ:
> >>>> 
> >>>> While migrating VMs is easy (and the sampling is already running), can
> >>>> someone tell me the correct polling port to block with iptables?
> >>>> 
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>> Hi Daniel,
> >>> 
> >>> there is indeed a memory profiling patch under discussion:
> >>> http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/32019/
> >>> 
> >>> but for your case we'll need a backport to 3.4.x and clearer install
> >>> instructions,
> >>> which I'll prepare as soon as possible.
> >> I updated the BZ (and are now blocking 54321/tcp on one of my hosts).
> >> and verified it is not reachable. As  general info: This system I am
> >> using is my LAB / Test / eval setup for a final deployment for ovirt
> >> (then 3.5) in production; so it will go away some time in the future (a
> >> few weeks / months). If I am the only one experiencing this problem then
> >> you might be better of allocating resources elsewhere ;)
> > 
> > Thanks for your understanding :)
> > 
> > Unfortunately it is true that developer resources aren't so abundant,
> > but it is also true that memleaks should never be discarded easily and 
> > without
> > due investigation, considering the nature and the role of VDSM.
> > 
> > So, I'm all in for further investigation regarding this issue.
> > 
> >>> As for your question: if I understood correctly what you are asking
> >>> (still catching up the thread), if you are trying to rule out the stats
> >>> polling
> >>> made by Engine to this bad leak, one simple way to test is just to 
> >>> shutdown
> >>> Engine,
> >>> and let VDSMs run unguarded on hypervisors. You'll be able to command 
> >>> these
> >>> VDSMs using vdsClient or restarting Engine.
> >> As I said in my BZ comment this is not an option right now, but if
> >> understand the matter correctly IPTABLES reject should ultimately do the
> >> same?
> > 
> > Definitely yes! Just do whatever it is more convenient for you.
> > 
> As you might have already seen in the BZ comment the leak stopped after 
> blocking the port. Though this is clearly no permanent option - please let me 
> know if I can be of any more assistance! 

The immediate suspect in this situation is M2Crypto. Could you verify
that by re-opening the firewall and setting ssl=False in vdsm.conf?

You should disable ssl on Engine side and restart both Engine and Vdsm
(too bad I do not recall how that's done on Engine: Piotr, can you help?).
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Re: [ovirt-users] 3.4: VDSM Memory consumption

2014-09-29 Thread Daniel Helgenberger
Hello Francesco,

-- 
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P: +49/30/2408781-22
F: +49/30/2408781-10
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> On 29.09.2014, at 22:19, Francesco Romani  wrote:
> 
> - Original Message -
>> From: "Daniel Helgenberger" 
>> To: "Francesco Romani" 
>> Cc: "Dan Kenigsberg" , users@ovirt.org
>> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:54:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
>> 
>> Hello Francesco,
>> 
>>> On 29.09.2014 13:55, Francesco Romani wrote:
>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: "Daniel Helgenberger" 
>>>> To: "Dan Kenigsberg" 
>>>> Cc: users@ovirt.org
>>>> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 12:25:22 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
>>>> 
>>>> Dan,
>>>> 
>>>> I just reply to the list since I do not want to clutter BZ:
>>>> 
>>>> While migrating VMs is easy (and the sampling is already running), can
>>>> someone tell me the correct polling port to block with iptables?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>> Hi Daniel,
>>> 
>>> there is indeed a memory profiling patch under discussion:
>>> http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/32019/
>>> 
>>> but for your case we'll need a backport to 3.4.x and clearer install
>>> instructions,
>>> which I'll prepare as soon as possible.
>> I updated the BZ (and are now blocking 54321/tcp on one of my hosts).
>> and verified it is not reachable. As  general info: This system I am
>> using is my LAB / Test / eval setup for a final deployment for ovirt
>> (then 3.5) in production; so it will go away some time in the future (a
>> few weeks / months). If I am the only one experiencing this problem then
>> you might be better of allocating resources elsewhere ;)
> 
> Thanks for your understanding :)
> 
> Unfortunately it is true that developer resources aren't so abundant,
> but it is also true that memleaks should never be discarded easily and without
> due investigation, considering the nature and the role of VDSM.
> 
> So, I'm all in for further investigation regarding this issue.
> 
>>> As for your question: if I understood correctly what you are asking
>>> (still catching up the thread), if you are trying to rule out the stats
>>> polling
>>> made by Engine to this bad leak, one simple way to test is just to shutdown
>>> Engine,
>>> and let VDSMs run unguarded on hypervisors. You'll be able to command these
>>> VDSMs using vdsClient or restarting Engine.
>> As I said in my BZ comment this is not an option right now, but if
>> understand the matter correctly IPTABLES reject should ultimately do the
>> same?
> 
> Definitely yes! Just do whatever it is more convenient for you.
> 
As you might have already seen in the BZ comment the leak stopped after 
blocking the port. Though this is clearly no permanent option - please let me 
know if I can be of any more assistance! 

> -- 
> Francesco Romani
> RedHat Engineering Virtualization R & D
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Re: [ovirt-users] 3.4: VDSM Memory consumption

2014-09-29 Thread Francesco Romani
- Original Message -
> From: "Daniel Helgenberger" 
> To: "Francesco Romani" 
> Cc: "Dan Kenigsberg" , users@ovirt.org
> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:54:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
> 
> Hello Francesco,
> 
> On 29.09.2014 13:55, Francesco Romani wrote:
> > - Original Message -
> >> From: "Daniel Helgenberger" 
> >> To: "Dan Kenigsberg" 
> >> Cc: users@ovirt.org
> >> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 12:25:22 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] 3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
> >>
> >> Dan,
> >>
> >> I just reply to the list since I do not want to clutter BZ:
> >>
> >> While migrating VMs is easy (and the sampling is already running), can
> >> someone tell me the correct polling port to block with iptables?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> > Hi Daniel,
> >
> > there is indeed a memory profiling patch under discussion:
> > http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/32019/
> >
> > but for your case we'll need a backport to 3.4.x and clearer install
> > instructions,
> > which I'll prepare as soon as possible.
> I updated the BZ (and are now blocking 54321/tcp on one of my hosts).
> and verified it is not reachable. As  general info: This system I am
> using is my LAB / Test / eval setup for a final deployment for ovirt
> (then 3.5) in production; so it will go away some time in the future (a
> few weeks / months). If I am the only one experiencing this problem then
> you might be better of allocating resources elsewhere ;)

Thanks for your understanding :)

Unfortunately it is true that developer resources aren't so abundant,
but it is also true that memleaks should never be discarded easily and without
due investigation, considering the nature and the role of VDSM.

So, I'm all in for further investigation regarding this issue.

> > As for your question: if I understood correctly what you are asking
> > (still catching up the thread), if you are trying to rule out the stats
> > polling
> > made by Engine to this bad leak, one simple way to test is just to shutdown
> > Engine,
> > and let VDSMs run unguarded on hypervisors. You'll be able to command these
> > VDSMs using vdsClient or restarting Engine.
> As I said in my BZ comment this is not an option right now, but if
> understand the matter correctly IPTABLES reject should ultimately do the
> same?

Definitely yes! Just do whatever it is more convenient for you.

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Re: [ovirt-users] 3.4: VDSM Memory consumption

2014-09-29 Thread Daniel Helgenberger
Hello Francesco,


On 29.09.2014 13:55, Francesco Romani wrote:
> - Original Message -
>> From: "Daniel Helgenberger" 
>> To: "Dan Kenigsberg" 
>> Cc: users@ovirt.org
>> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 12:25:22 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]   3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
>>
>> Dan,
>>
>> I just reply to the list since I do not want to clutter BZ:
>>
>> While migrating VMs is easy (and the sampling is already running), can
>> someone tell me the correct polling port to block with iptables?
>>
>> Thanks,
> Hi Daniel,
>
> there is indeed a memory profiling patch under discussion:
> http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/32019/
>
> but for your case we'll need a backport to 3.4.x and clearer install 
> instructions,
> which I'll prepare as soon as possible.
I updated the BZ (and are now blocking 54321/tcp on one of my hosts).
and verified it is not reachable. As  general info: This system I am
using is my LAB / Test / eval setup for a final deployment for ovirt
(then 3.5) in production; so it will go away some time in the future (a
few weeks / months). If I am the only one experiencing this problem then
you might be better of allocating resources elsewhere ;)
>
> As for your question: if I understood correctly what you are asking
> (still catching up the thread), if you are trying to rule out the stats 
> polling
> made by Engine to this bad leak, one simple way to test is just to shutdown 
> Engine,
> and let VDSMs run unguarded on hypervisors. You'll be able to command these
> VDSMs using vdsClient or restarting Engine.
As I said in my BZ comment this is not an option right now, but if
understand the matter correctly IPTABLES reject should ultimately do the
same?
>
> In absence of commands from Engine VDSM will just sit idle and it will not do
> anything to VMs except it's own sampling.
>
> If you are on IRC, on freenode/#vdsm or OFTC/#ovirt, please ping me anytime -
> see my sign below for my IRC nickname.
>


Thanks.


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Re: [ovirt-users] ?3.4: VDSM Memory consumption

2014-09-29 Thread Dan Kenigsberg
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 10:25:22AM +, Daniel Helgenberger wrote:
> Dan,
> 
> I just reply to the list since I do not want to clutter BZ:
> 
> While migrating VMs is easy (and the sampling is already running), can
> someone tell me the correct polling port to block with iptables?

# iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --destination-port 54321 -j REJECT

on the host would render it non-responsive in Engine. I wonder if the
leak continues.
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Re: [ovirt-users] 3.4: VDSM Memory consumption

2014-09-29 Thread Francesco Romani
- Original Message -
> From: "Daniel Helgenberger" 
> To: "Dan Kenigsberg" 
> Cc: users@ovirt.org
> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 12:25:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users]3.4: VDSM Memory consumption
> 
> Dan,
> 
> I just reply to the list since I do not want to clutter BZ:
> 
> While migrating VMs is easy (and the sampling is already running), can
> someone tell me the correct polling port to block with iptables?
> 
> Thanks,

Hi Daniel,

there is indeed a memory profiling patch under discussion:
http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/32019/

but for your case we'll need a backport to 3.4.x and clearer install 
instructions,
which I'll prepare as soon as possible.

As for your question: if I understood correctly what you are asking
(still catching up the thread), if you are trying to rule out the stats polling
made by Engine to this bad leak, one simple way to test is just to shutdown 
Engine,
and let VDSMs run unguarded on hypervisors. You'll be able to command these
VDSMs using vdsClient or restarting Engine.

In absence of commands from Engine VDSM will just sit idle and it will not do
anything to VMs except it's own sampling.

If you are on IRC, on freenode/#vdsm or OFTC/#ovirt, please ping me anytime -
see my sign below for my IRC nickname.

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Re: [ovirt-users] 3.4: VDSM Memory consumption

2014-09-29 Thread Daniel Helgenberger
Dan,

I just reply to the list since I do not want to clutter BZ:

While migrating VMs is easy (and the sampling is already running), can
someone tell me the correct polling port to block with iptables?

Thanks,
On 27.09.2014 13:18, Daniel Helgenberger wrote:
> Hallo Dan,
>
> I just opened a BZ aginst this [1]. Please let me know if I can be of
> further assistance. I stopped the cron script for now, so vdsm can 'grow
> nicely' (about 91.5 MB per 6hrs)
>
> Cheers,
> [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1147148
>
> On 24.09.2014 19:20, Dan Kenigsberg wrote:
>>> On 01.09.2014 18:08, Dan Kenigsberg wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 01, 2014 at 03:30:53PM +, Daniel Helgenberger wrote:
> Hello,
>
> in my LAB cluster I run into OOM conditions frequently because of a huge
> VDSM process. The memory stats from my nodes right now:
>
> Node A; running one VM:
>   PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND 
>  3465 vdsm   0 -20 18.6g 9.8g 8244 S 32.1 50.3  27265:21 vdsm 
>   
>
>  7439 qemu  20   0 5641m 4.1g 4280 S 22.9 20.9  12737:08 qemu-kvm 
>   
>
>  2912 root  15  -5 2710m  35m 5968 S  0.0  0.2   0:04.76 
> supervdsmServer 
>
> Node B, running 3 VMs including HosedEngine:
>   PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND 
> 9079 vdsm   0 -20  9.9g 5.0g 7496 S 49.7 43.0  11858:06 vdsm  
>   
>   
>  3347 qemu  20   0 7749m 1.8g 5264 S  4.3 15.8   3:25.71 qemu-kvm 
>   
>
> 18463 qemu  20   0 3865m 415m 5516 R  1.6  3.5 359:15.24 qemu-kvm 
>   
>
> 11755 qemu  20   0 3873m 276m 5336 S 80.5  2.3  21639:39 qemu-kvm
>
> Basically VDSM consumes more then all my VMs.
>
> I thought of VDSM as a 'supervisor' process for qemu-kvm?
>
> I attached recend vdsm logs as well as a screen shot.
 Thanks for your report. It sounds like

 Bug 1130045 - Very high memory consumption

 which we believe is due to python-ioprocess.
>> On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 03:39:25PM +, Daniel Helgenberger wrote:
>>> Hi Dan,
>>>
>>> just to get this right, you yourself pointed me to the BZ. I was looking
>>> at the duplicate, since the metadata tags 3.4. Sorry my lack of
>>> knowlage, I really have no idea whatever there is an ioprocess python
>>> binding in 3.4 or not - I just see vdsmd resident size growing in 3.4.
>>> The top output below was from 3.4.3; I just upgraded to 3.4.4. But
>>> clearly vdsmd should not use 10GB RAM?
>> I'm sorry to have mislead you. The bug I refered to was indeed due to
>> ioprocess, and caused a very dramatic memory leak in 3.5. We have yet
>> another memory leak in 3.5.0, when managing gluster blocks
>> Bug 1142647 - supervdsm leaks memory when using glusterfs
>>
>> 3.4.z does not use ioprocess, and do not have that gluster bug, so you
>> are seeing completely different and much older.
>>
>> These leaks are not so easy to debug - but they are important. I'd love
>> if you open a BZ about it. Please specify the rate of the leak, when
>> does it happen (when a host has VMs? when a host is polled by Engine? On
>> nfs? iscsi?
>>
>> What's `lsof -p pid-of-fat-vdsm`?
>>
>> I think that Francesco has some debug patches to help nail it down - he
>> can provide smarter questions.
>>
>> Dan.
>>
>>

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Re: [ovirt-users] 3.4: VDSM Memory consumption

2014-09-27 Thread Daniel Helgenberger
Hallo Dan,

I just opened a BZ aginst this [1]. Please let me know if I can be of
further assistance. I stopped the cron script for now, so vdsm can 'grow
nicely' (about 91.5 MB per 6hrs)

Cheers,
[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1147148

On 24.09.2014 19:20, Dan Kenigsberg wrote:
>> On 01.09.2014 18:08, Dan Kenigsberg wrote:
>>> On Mon, Sep 01, 2014 at 03:30:53PM +, Daniel Helgenberger wrote:
 Hello,

 in my LAB cluster I run into OOM conditions frequently because of a huge
 VDSM process. The memory stats from my nodes right now:

 Node A; running one VM:
   PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND 
  3465 vdsm   0 -20 18.6g 9.8g 8244 S 32.1 50.3  27265:21 vdsm  

  
  7439 qemu  20   0 5641m 4.1g 4280 S 22.9 20.9  12737:08 qemu-kvm  

  
  2912 root  15  -5 2710m  35m 5968 S  0.0  0.2   0:04.76 
 supervdsmServer 

 Node B, running 3 VMs including HosedEngine:
   PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND 
 9079 vdsm   0 -20  9.9g 5.0g 7496 S 49.7 43.0  11858:06 vdsm   

 
  3347 qemu  20   0 7749m 1.8g 5264 S  4.3 15.8   3:25.71 qemu-kvm  

  
 18463 qemu  20   0 3865m 415m 5516 R  1.6  3.5 359:15.24 qemu-kvm  

  
 11755 qemu  20   0 3873m 276m 5336 S 80.5  2.3  21639:39 qemu-kvm

 Basically VDSM consumes more then all my VMs.

 I thought of VDSM as a 'supervisor' process for qemu-kvm?

 I attached recend vdsm logs as well as a screen shot.
>>> Thanks for your report. It sounds like
>>>
>>> Bug 1130045 - Very high memory consumption
>>>
>>> which we believe is due to python-ioprocess.
> On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 03:39:25PM +, Daniel Helgenberger wrote:
>> Hi Dan,
>>
>> just to get this right, you yourself pointed me to the BZ. I was looking
>> at the duplicate, since the metadata tags 3.4. Sorry my lack of
>> knowlage, I really have no idea whatever there is an ioprocess python
>> binding in 3.4 or not - I just see vdsmd resident size growing in 3.4.
>> The top output below was from 3.4.3; I just upgraded to 3.4.4. But
>> clearly vdsmd should not use 10GB RAM?
> I'm sorry to have mislead you. The bug I refered to was indeed due to
> ioprocess, and caused a very dramatic memory leak in 3.5. We have yet
> another memory leak in 3.5.0, when managing gluster blocks
> Bug 1142647 - supervdsm leaks memory when using glusterfs
>
> 3.4.z does not use ioprocess, and do not have that gluster bug, so you
> are seeing completely different and much older.
>
> These leaks are not so easy to debug - but they are important. I'd love
> if you open a BZ about it. Please specify the rate of the leak, when
> does it happen (when a host has VMs? when a host is polled by Engine? On
> nfs? iscsi?
>
> What's `lsof -p pid-of-fat-vdsm`?
>
> I think that Francesco has some debug patches to help nail it down - he
> can provide smarter questions.
>
> Dan.
>
>

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Re: [ovirt-users] 3.4: VDSM Memory consumption

2014-09-24 Thread Dan Kenigsberg
> On 01.09.2014 18:08, Dan Kenigsberg wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 01, 2014 at 03:30:53PM +, Daniel Helgenberger wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> in my LAB cluster I run into OOM conditions frequently because of a huge
> >> VDSM process. The memory stats from my nodes right now:
> >>
> >> Node A; running one VM:
> >>   PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND 
> >>  3465 vdsm   0 -20 18.6g 9.8g 8244 S 32.1 50.3  27265:21 vdsm  
> >>
> >>  
> >>  7439 qemu  20   0 5641m 4.1g 4280 S 22.9 20.9  12737:08 qemu-kvm  
> >>
> >>  
> >>  2912 root  15  -5 2710m  35m 5968 S  0.0  0.2   0:04.76 
> >> supervdsmServer 
> >>
> >> Node B, running 3 VMs including HosedEngine:
> >>   PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND 
> >> 9079 vdsm   0 -20  9.9g 5.0g 7496 S 49.7 43.0  11858:06 vdsm   
> >>
> >> 
> >>  3347 qemu  20   0 7749m 1.8g 5264 S  4.3 15.8   3:25.71 qemu-kvm  
> >>
> >>  
> >> 18463 qemu  20   0 3865m 415m 5516 R  1.6  3.5 359:15.24 qemu-kvm  
> >>
> >>  
> >> 11755 qemu  20   0 3873m 276m 5336 S 80.5  2.3  21639:39 qemu-kvm
> >>
> >> Basically VDSM consumes more then all my VMs.
> >>
> >> I thought of VDSM as a 'supervisor' process for qemu-kvm?
> >>
> >> I attached recend vdsm logs as well as a screen shot.
> > Thanks for your report. It sounds like
> >
> > Bug 1130045 - Very high memory consumption
> >
> > which we believe is due to python-ioprocess.

On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 03:39:25PM +, Daniel Helgenberger wrote:
> Hi Dan,
> 
> just to get this right, you yourself pointed me to the BZ. I was looking
> at the duplicate, since the metadata tags 3.4. Sorry my lack of
> knowlage, I really have no idea whatever there is an ioprocess python
> binding in 3.4 or not - I just see vdsmd resident size growing in 3.4.
> The top output below was from 3.4.3; I just upgraded to 3.4.4. But
> clearly vdsmd should not use 10GB RAM?

I'm sorry to have mislead you. The bug I refered to was indeed due to
ioprocess, and caused a very dramatic memory leak in 3.5. We have yet
another memory leak in 3.5.0, when managing gluster blocks
Bug 1142647 - supervdsm leaks memory when using glusterfs

3.4.z does not use ioprocess, and do not have that gluster bug, so you
are seeing completely different and much older.

These leaks are not so easy to debug - but they are important. I'd love
if you open a BZ about it. Please specify the rate of the leak, when
does it happen (when a host has VMs? when a host is polled by Engine? On
nfs? iscsi?

What's `lsof -p pid-of-fat-vdsm`?

I think that Francesco has some debug patches to help nail it down - he
can provide smarter questions.

Dan.

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