Re: [ovirt-users] [ovirt-devel] [QE][VOTE][ACTION REQUIRED] oVirt 3.6.0 Alpha release this week
- Original Message - > From: "Bob Doolittle" > To: "Martin Perina" > Cc: de...@ovirt.org, "Sandro Bonazzola" , Users@ovirt.org > Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 1:33:03 PM > Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] [QE][VOTE][ACTION REQUIRED] oVirt 3.6.0 Alpha > release this week > > On May 6, 2015 4:47 AM, "Martin Perina" wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > IMO we should add a warning to release notes that oVirt 3.6 Alpha requires > > OpenJDK 1.7 for engine and it will not work with OpenJDK 1.8 (even though > > our current packaging requirements allows OpenJDK 1.8). > > Why is it not considered a bug that our packaging requirements allow a > version of OpenJDK that we know will not work? Fixing the package > requirements to exclude 1.8 would go a long way toward preventing failed > installations (or make failures more obvious). > > Is there a bug open to track fixing oVirt to work with OpenJDK 1.8? When we will move to WildFly [1], we could use also OpenJDK 1.8, but not before. Martin [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1121327 > > -Bob > > > > > Thanks > > > > Martin > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Sandro Bonazzola" > > > To: de...@ovirt.org, Users@ovirt.org > > > Sent: Monday, May 4, 2015 1:26:07 PM > > > Subject: [ovirt-devel] [QE][VOTE][ACTION REQUIRED] oVirt 3.6.0 Alpha > release this week > > > > > > Hi, > > > just a quick reminder that oVirt 3.6.0 Alpha is scheduled for May > 6th[1]. > > > > > > > > > ACTION: Maintainers, please check Alpha Release Criteria[2] to ensure > we can > > > release this Alpha on Wednesday. > > > MUST: All sources must be available on ovirt.org > > > MUST: All packages listed by subprojects must be available in the > > > repository > > > MUST: All accepted features must be substantially complete and in a > > > testable state and enabled by default -- if so specified by the > change > > > > > > About this last "MUST" I think that we should drop it having changed the > > > release process after release criteria discussion and move it to beta > > > release > > > criteria. > > > > > > VOTE: please ack for moving "MUST: All accepted features must be > > > substantially complete and in a testable state and enabled by default > -- if > > > so > > > specified by the change" to beta release criteria > > > > > > ACTION: Maintainers: please send a list of the packages provided by your > > > sub-project. > > > If no list will be provided, the list will be taken by the jenkins > nightly > > > publisher job[3] used for publishing ovirt-master-snapshot. > > > > > > ACTION: Maintainers and QE: please fill the Test Day wiki page[4] > > > > > > > > > [1] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.6_Release_Management#Key_Milestones > > > [2] > http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.6_Release_Management#Alpha_Release_Criteria > > > [3] > > > > http://jenkins.ovirt.org/view/Publishers/job/publish_ovirt_rpms_nightly_master/ > > > [4] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.6_Test_Day > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Sandro Bonazzola > > > Better technology. Faster innovation. Powered by community > collaboration. > > > See how it works at redhat.com > > > ___ > > > Devel mailing list > > > de...@ovirt.org > > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > > > > > ___ > > Devel mailing list > > de...@ovirt.org > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] [ovirt-devel] [QE][VOTE][ACTION REQUIRED] oVirt 3.6.0 Alpha release this week
On May 6, 2015 4:47 AM, "Martin Perina" wrote: > > Hi, > > IMO we should add a warning to release notes that oVirt 3.6 Alpha requires > OpenJDK 1.7 for engine and it will not work with OpenJDK 1.8 (even though > our current packaging requirements allows OpenJDK 1.8). Why is it not considered a bug that our packaging requirements allow a version of OpenJDK that we know will not work? Fixing the package requirements to exclude 1.8 would go a long way toward preventing failed installations (or make failures more obvious). Is there a bug open to track fixing oVirt to work with OpenJDK 1.8? -Bob > > Thanks > > Martin > > - Original Message - > > From: "Sandro Bonazzola" > > To: de...@ovirt.org, Users@ovirt.org > > Sent: Monday, May 4, 2015 1:26:07 PM > > Subject: [ovirt-devel] [QE][VOTE][ACTION REQUIRED] oVirt 3.6.0 Alpha release this week > > > > Hi, > > just a quick reminder that oVirt 3.6.0 Alpha is scheduled for May 6th[1]. > > > > > > ACTION: Maintainers, please check Alpha Release Criteria[2] to ensure we can > > release this Alpha on Wednesday. > > MUST: All sources must be available on ovirt.org > > MUST: All packages listed by subprojects must be available in the > > repository > > MUST: All accepted features must be substantially complete and in a > > testable state and enabled by default -- if so specified by the change > > > > About this last "MUST" I think that we should drop it having changed the > > release process after release criteria discussion and move it to beta > > release > > criteria. > > > > VOTE: please ack for moving "MUST: All accepted features must be > > substantially complete and in a testable state and enabled by default -- if > > so > > specified by the change" to beta release criteria > > > > ACTION: Maintainers: please send a list of the packages provided by your > > sub-project. > > If no list will be provided, the list will be taken by the jenkins nightly > > publisher job[3] used for publishing ovirt-master-snapshot. > > > > ACTION: Maintainers and QE: please fill the Test Day wiki page[4] > > > > > > [1] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.6_Release_Management#Key_Milestones > > [2] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.6_Release_Management#Alpha_Release_Criteria > > [3] > > http://jenkins.ovirt.org/view/Publishers/job/publish_ovirt_rpms_nightly_master/ > > [4] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.6_Test_Day > > > > > > -- > > Sandro Bonazzola > > Better technology. Faster innovation. Powered by community collaboration. > > See how it works at redhat.com > > ___ > > Devel mailing list > > de...@ovirt.org > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > > > ___ > Devel mailing list > de...@ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] [ovirt-devel] [QE][VOTE][ACTION REQUIRED] oVirt 3.6.0 Alpha release this week
- Original Message - > From: "Yedidyah Bar David" > To: "Oved Ourfali" > Cc: Users@ovirt.org, de...@ovirt.org > Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 2:21:39 PM > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] [ovirt-devel] [QE][VOTE][ACTION REQUIRED] oVirt > 3.6.0 Alpha release this week > > - Original Message - > > From: "Oved Ourfali" > > To: "Martin Perina" > > Cc: "Yedidyah Bar David" , Users@ovirt.org, > > de...@ovirt.org > > Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 1:44:39 PM > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] [ovirt-devel] [QE][VOTE][ACTION REQUIRED] oVirt > > 3.6.0 Alpha release this week > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Martin Perina" > > > To: "Yedidyah Bar David" > > > Cc: Users@ovirt.org, de...@ovirt.org > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 1:40:54 PM > > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] [ovirt-devel] [QE][VOTE][ACTION REQUIRED] > > > oVirt > > > 3.6.0 Alpha release this week > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Yedidyah Bar David" > > > > To: "Sandro Bonazzola" > > > > Cc: "Martin Perina" , Users@ovirt.org, > > > > de...@ovirt.org > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 11:46:13 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] [ovirt-devel] [QE][VOTE][ACTION REQUIRED] > > > > oVirt > > > > 3.6.0 Alpha release this week > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > > From: "Sandro Bonazzola" > > > > > To: "Martin Perina" > > > > > Cc: Users@ovirt.org, de...@ovirt.org > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 12:19:17 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] [ovirt-devel] [QE][VOTE][ACTION REQUIRED] > > > > > oVirt > > > > > 3.6.0 Alpha release this week > > > > > > > > > > Il 06/05/2015 10:47, Martin Perina ha scritto: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > IMO we should add a warning to release notes that oVirt 3.6 Alpha > > > > > > requires > > > > > > OpenJDK 1.7 for engine and it will not work with OpenJDK 1.8 (even > > > > > > though > > > > > > our current packaging requirements allows OpenJDK 1.8). > > > > > > > > > > You're welcome to add notes to > > > > > http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.6_Release_Notes > > > > > :-) > > > > > This one, I'll add myself. > > > > > > > > Already done, under Known Issues. > > > > -- > > > > Didi > > > > > > > > > > Well, I wouldn't say that it's a known issue, because we never said that > > > oVirt > > > can be executed on different JDK than 1.7, but ok. > > > > > > > More like a release note. > > Well, you are both welcome to edit :-) > > IMHO it's a Known Issue that a naive attempt to install the engine on an > up-to-date EL6 will result in a non-functioning engine. The rest is details. Now added 'yum install java-1.7.0-openjdk' to installation instructions. Best, -- Didi ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] [ovirt-devel] [QE][VOTE][ACTION REQUIRED] oVirt 3.6.0 Alpha release this week
- Original Message - > From: "Oved Ourfali" > To: "Martin Perina" > Cc: "Yedidyah Bar David" , Users@ovirt.org, de...@ovirt.org > Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 1:44:39 PM > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] [ovirt-devel] [QE][VOTE][ACTION REQUIRED] oVirt > 3.6.0 Alpha release this week > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Martin Perina" > > To: "Yedidyah Bar David" > > Cc: Users@ovirt.org, de...@ovirt.org > > Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 1:40:54 PM > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] [ovirt-devel] [QE][VOTE][ACTION REQUIRED] oVirt > > 3.6.0 Alpha release this week > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Yedidyah Bar David" > > > To: "Sandro Bonazzola" > > > Cc: "Martin Perina" , Users@ovirt.org, > > > de...@ovirt.org > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 11:46:13 AM > > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] [ovirt-devel] [QE][VOTE][ACTION REQUIRED] > > > oVirt > > > 3.6.0 Alpha release this week > > > > > > - Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Sandro Bonazzola" > > > > To: "Martin Perina" > > > > Cc: Users@ovirt.org, de...@ovirt.org > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 12:19:17 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] [ovirt-devel] [QE][VOTE][ACTION REQUIRED] > > > > oVirt > > > > 3.6.0 Alpha release this week > > > > > > > > Il 06/05/2015 10:47, Martin Perina ha scritto: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > IMO we should add a warning to release notes that oVirt 3.6 Alpha > > > > > requires > > > > > OpenJDK 1.7 for engine and it will not work with OpenJDK 1.8 (even > > > > > though > > > > > our current packaging requirements allows OpenJDK 1.8). > > > > > > > > You're welcome to add notes to > > > > http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.6_Release_Notes > > > > :-) > > > > This one, I'll add myself. > > > > > > Already done, under Known Issues. > > > -- > > > Didi > > > > > > > Well, I wouldn't say that it's a known issue, because we never said that > > oVirt > > can be executed on different JDK than 1.7, but ok. > > > > More like a release note. Well, you are both welcome to edit :-) IMHO it's a Known Issue that a naive attempt to install the engine on an up-to-date EL6 will result in a non-functioning engine. The rest is details. Best, -- Didi ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] [ovirt-devel] [QE][VOTE][ACTION REQUIRED] oVirt 3.6.0 Alpha release this week
- Original Message - > From: "Martin Perina" > To: "Yedidyah Bar David" > Cc: Users@ovirt.org, de...@ovirt.org > Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 1:40:54 PM > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] [ovirt-devel] [QE][VOTE][ACTION REQUIRED] oVirt > 3.6.0 Alpha release this week > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Yedidyah Bar David" > > To: "Sandro Bonazzola" > > Cc: "Martin Perina" , Users@ovirt.org, de...@ovirt.org > > Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 11:46:13 AM > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] [ovirt-devel] [QE][VOTE][ACTION REQUIRED] oVirt > > 3.6.0 Alpha release this week > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Sandro Bonazzola" > > > To: "Martin Perina" > > > Cc: Users@ovirt.org, de...@ovirt.org > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 12:19:17 PM > > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] [ovirt-devel] [QE][VOTE][ACTION REQUIRED] > > > oVirt > > > 3.6.0 Alpha release this week > > > > > > Il 06/05/2015 10:47, Martin Perina ha scritto: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > IMO we should add a warning to release notes that oVirt 3.6 Alpha > > > > requires > > > > OpenJDK 1.7 for engine and it will not work with OpenJDK 1.8 (even > > > > though > > > > our current packaging requirements allows OpenJDK 1.8). > > > > > > You're welcome to add notes to > > > http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.6_Release_Notes > > > :-) > > > This one, I'll add myself. > > > > Already done, under Known Issues. > > -- > > Didi > > > > Well, I wouldn't say that it's a known issue, because we never said that > oVirt > can be executed on different JDK than 1.7, but ok. > More like a release note. > Martin > > ___ > Users mailing list > Users@ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] [ovirt-devel] [QE][VOTE][ACTION REQUIRED] oVirt 3.6.0 Alpha release this week
- Original Message - > From: "Yedidyah Bar David" > To: "Sandro Bonazzola" > Cc: "Martin Perina" , Users@ovirt.org, de...@ovirt.org > Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 11:46:13 AM > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] [ovirt-devel] [QE][VOTE][ACTION REQUIRED] oVirt > 3.6.0 Alpha release this week > > - Original Message - > > From: "Sandro Bonazzola" > > To: "Martin Perina" > > Cc: Users@ovirt.org, de...@ovirt.org > > Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 12:19:17 PM > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] [ovirt-devel] [QE][VOTE][ACTION REQUIRED] oVirt > > 3.6.0 Alpha release this week > > > > Il 06/05/2015 10:47, Martin Perina ha scritto: > > > Hi, > > > > > > IMO we should add a warning to release notes that oVirt 3.6 Alpha > > > requires > > > OpenJDK 1.7 for engine and it will not work with OpenJDK 1.8 (even though > > > our current packaging requirements allows OpenJDK 1.8). > > > > You're welcome to add notes to http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.6_Release_Notes > > :-) > > This one, I'll add myself. > > Already done, under Known Issues. > -- > Didi > Well, I wouldn't say that it's a known issue, because we never said that oVirt can be executed on different JDK than 1.7, but ok. Martin ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] [ovirt-devel] [QE][VOTE][ACTION REQUIRED] oVirt 3.6.0 Alpha release this week
- Original Message - > From: "Sandro Bonazzola" > To: "Martin Perina" > Cc: Users@ovirt.org, de...@ovirt.org > Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 12:19:17 PM > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] [ovirt-devel] [QE][VOTE][ACTION REQUIRED] oVirt > 3.6.0 Alpha release this week > > Il 06/05/2015 10:47, Martin Perina ha scritto: > > Hi, > > > > IMO we should add a warning to release notes that oVirt 3.6 Alpha requires > > OpenJDK 1.7 for engine and it will not work with OpenJDK 1.8 (even though > > our current packaging requirements allows OpenJDK 1.8). > > You're welcome to add notes to http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.6_Release_Notes > :-) > This one, I'll add myself. Already done, under Known Issues. -- Didi ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] [ovirt-devel] [QE][VOTE][ACTION REQUIRED] oVirt 3.6.0 Alpha release this week
Il 06/05/2015 10:47, Martin Perina ha scritto: > Hi, > > IMO we should add a warning to release notes that oVirt 3.6 Alpha requires > OpenJDK 1.7 for engine and it will not work with OpenJDK 1.8 (even though > our current packaging requirements allows OpenJDK 1.8). You're welcome to add notes to http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.6_Release_Notes :-) This one, I'll add myself. > > Thanks > > Martin > > - Original Message - >> From: "Sandro Bonazzola" >> To: de...@ovirt.org, Users@ovirt.org >> Sent: Monday, May 4, 2015 1:26:07 PM >> Subject: [ovirt-devel] [QE][VOTE][ACTION REQUIRED] oVirt 3.6.0 Alpha release >> this week >> >> Hi, >> just a quick reminder that oVirt 3.6.0 Alpha is scheduled for May 6th[1]. >> >> >> ACTION: Maintainers, please check Alpha Release Criteria[2] to ensure we can >> release this Alpha on Wednesday. >> MUST: All sources must be available on ovirt.org >> MUST: All packages listed by subprojects must be available in the >> repository >> MUST: All accepted features must be substantially complete and in a >> testable state and enabled by default -- if so specified by the change >> >> About this last "MUST" I think that we should drop it having changed the >> release process after release criteria discussion and move it to beta >> release >> criteria. >> >> VOTE: please ack for moving "MUST: All accepted features must be >> substantially complete and in a testable state and enabled by default -- if >> so >> specified by the change" to beta release criteria >> >> ACTION: Maintainers: please send a list of the packages provided by your >> sub-project. >> If no list will be provided, the list will be taken by the jenkins nightly >> publisher job[3] used for publishing ovirt-master-snapshot. >> >> ACTION: Maintainers and QE: please fill the Test Day wiki page[4] >> >> >> [1] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.6_Release_Management#Key_Milestones >> [2] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.6_Release_Management#Alpha_Release_Criteria >> [3] >> http://jenkins.ovirt.org/view/Publishers/job/publish_ovirt_rpms_nightly_master/ >> [4] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.6_Test_Day >> >> >> -- >> Sandro Bonazzola >> Better technology. Faster innovation. Powered by community collaboration. >> See how it works at redhat.com >> ___ >> Devel mailing list >> de...@ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel >> -- Sandro Bonazzola Better technology. Faster innovation. Powered by community collaboration. See how it works at redhat.com ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] [ovirt-devel] [QE][VOTE][ACTION REQUIRED] oVirt 3.6.0 Alpha release this week
Hi, IMO we should add a warning to release notes that oVirt 3.6 Alpha requires OpenJDK 1.7 for engine and it will not work with OpenJDK 1.8 (even though our current packaging requirements allows OpenJDK 1.8). Thanks Martin - Original Message - > From: "Sandro Bonazzola" > To: de...@ovirt.org, Users@ovirt.org > Sent: Monday, May 4, 2015 1:26:07 PM > Subject: [ovirt-devel] [QE][VOTE][ACTION REQUIRED] oVirt 3.6.0 Alpha release > this week > > Hi, > just a quick reminder that oVirt 3.6.0 Alpha is scheduled for May 6th[1]. > > > ACTION: Maintainers, please check Alpha Release Criteria[2] to ensure we can > release this Alpha on Wednesday. > MUST: All sources must be available on ovirt.org > MUST: All packages listed by subprojects must be available in the > repository > MUST: All accepted features must be substantially complete and in a > testable state and enabled by default -- if so specified by the change > > About this last "MUST" I think that we should drop it having changed the > release process after release criteria discussion and move it to beta > release > criteria. > > VOTE: please ack for moving "MUST: All accepted features must be > substantially complete and in a testable state and enabled by default -- if > so > specified by the change" to beta release criteria > > ACTION: Maintainers: please send a list of the packages provided by your > sub-project. > If no list will be provided, the list will be taken by the jenkins nightly > publisher job[3] used for publishing ovirt-master-snapshot. > > ACTION: Maintainers and QE: please fill the Test Day wiki page[4] > > > [1] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.6_Release_Management#Key_Milestones > [2] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.6_Release_Management#Alpha_Release_Criteria > [3] > http://jenkins.ovirt.org/view/Publishers/job/publish_ovirt_rpms_nightly_master/ > [4] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.6_Test_Day > > > -- > Sandro Bonazzola > Better technology. Faster innovation. Powered by community collaboration. > See how it works at redhat.com > ___ > Devel mailing list > de...@ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] [ovirt-devel] [QE][VOTE][ACTION REQUIRED] oVirt 3.6.0 Alpha release this week
On 4 May 2015, at 13:26, Sandro Bonazzola wrote: > Hi, > just a quick reminder that oVirt 3.6.0 Alpha is scheduled for May 6th[1]. > > > ACTION: Maintainers, please check Alpha Release Criteria[2] to ensure we can > release this Alpha on Wednesday. >MUST: All sources must be available on ovirt.org >MUST: All packages listed by subprojects must be available in the > repository >MUST: All accepted features must be substantially complete and in a > testable state and enabled by default -- if so specified by the change > > About this last "MUST" I think that we should drop it having changed the > release process after release criteria discussion and move it to beta release > criteria. I agree. It's more than a month till FC so I expect quite a few features are not completed yet > > VOTE: please ack for moving "MUST: All accepted features must be > substantially complete and in a testable state and enabled by default -- if so > specified by the change" to beta release criteria > > ACTION: Maintainers: please send a list of the packages provided by your > sub-project. > If no list will be provided, the list will be taken by the jenkins nightly > publisher job[3] used for publishing ovirt-master-snapshot. > > ACTION: Maintainers and QE: please fill the Test Day wiki page[4] > > > [1] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.6_Release_Management#Key_Milestones > [2] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.6_Release_Management#Alpha_Release_Criteria > [3] > http://jenkins.ovirt.org/view/Publishers/job/publish_ovirt_rpms_nightly_master/ > [4] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.6_Test_Day > > > -- > Sandro Bonazzola > Better technology. Faster innovation. Powered by community collaboration. > See how it works at redhat.com > ___ > Devel mailing list > de...@ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
