[SOGo] BTS activities for Thursday, July 16 2015
Title: BTS activities for Thursday, July 16 2015 BTS Activities Home page: http://www.sogo.nu/bugs Project: SOGo For the period covering: Thursday, July 16 2015 idlast updatestatus (resolution)categorysummary 3282 2015-07-16 09:43:47 updated (open) Web Mail Error "Message doesn't exist anymore" when clicking Message in "Other Users" section
Re: [SOGo] Survey - Who uses SOGo (and why not exchange)
Hi, We have evaluated Kolab but found it not stable, neither the community edition nor the enterprise edition. Too many bugs, a beta version of cyrus losing index files on a regular basis, stuck (zombie) processes, a setup routine which does not exchange the placeholder/variables in the config files, a version of 389-directory server with serious flaws etc. We did use it in production for a year, but after a while with heavy usage and with mailboxes with up to 200k mails we encountered lots of issues; users losing all of their contacts (or at least problems with syncing ... the files were on the server, however they disappeared on the mobile phone as well as in the webinterface), same problem with calendars. The documentation is not really straight forward and you have to do a lot of dirty hacks; too much dirty patches on roundcube that actually do not 100% work; even a scripted daemon that does content analysis (wallaced), but there exists 0 documentation and the daemon hangs once in a while. We also had issues with the admin interface somehow modifying the ldap schema. In the end: lots of troubles. My view on MS Exchange is biased since I strongly believe in open source, however in a project I have to use it. I don't like it, its bloated and very very slow, the Microsoft Smart Filtering really sucks and using the buggy relay connectors is just pure pain in the ass. Even with the old mailserver on the same GBit-switch we did not manage to get more than 5 mails/sec into MS Exchange (dovecot on a testserver did around 30). Lots of tools get timeout because its so slow (running new adequate hardware for about 80 users), e.g. the Xerox WorkCentre cannot send scans because establishing a connection to the server is too slow. IMAP support is under all critics, users moving folders around get error messages in thunderbird because they are still shown on the old places, so they have to delete the account and create a new one. The Outlook Web App (webinterface) is also not that userfriendly, losing some mails contents and mixing up some "conversations", also, when you delete some mails via webinterface they show up on IMAP for hours, it needs a long time to "synchronize". Search seems buggy because some mails are not found when you search a term. Gna, have to stop this here ... I just hate it. Now, SOGo: *) few bugs, most of them I can live with *) compared to Kolab: fast bug fixes and _stable_ releases *) fast & lightweight, fast & lightweight, fast & lightweight!!! *) Excellent documentation *) Good package management and straight forward lifecycle management (almost always upgrades without worries!) *) As mentioned elsewhere: I like the GUI, its like a desktop software ... I am a little worried about V3 that has to be "modern" - I think its difficult for all the functionality to stick to those design standards *) Modularity: use an awesome stack of nginx/apache, postfix/exim/qmail, dovecot/cyrus/courier, antispam filter, openldap/apache DS/389-Directoryservice, various other tools ... you get the idea ... and on top sogo One of the things I am missing most in SOGo is 2 factor authorization, like with yubi key or some other tools. Thats an interesting thread, hope we get some more opinions! best regards, infoomatic -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Survey - Who uses SOGo (and why not exchange)
Hello We use Sogo for ours customers size from arround 20 account to 9000, with postfix and ldap (wiki.sogxmail.org) one question you must have : Is outlook is mandatory If yes sorry but Outlook goes well ONLY with exchange. all plugins , connector are not managables for a big deployment and makes Outlook unstable. About openchange for me it is not mature, looks like an alpha developpement with many limitations and if someone us it in production with 100 or 200 customers tell us ! Maybe Outlook with ActiveSync but for now we didn t test it and we don t know what functionalities are missing. If no Thunderbird lightning goes well with Sogo and have the same functionalities than an Outlook. You can authenticate Sogo and Mail againt an AD it works well (see wiki.sogxmail.org) Jitsi as client with Jabber is a good alternative to Links (see wiki.sogxmail.org). For mobile world : Caldav and Carddav are the best compared at activesync on IOS it is native , on Android with DavDroid it works very well . The only thing you must create 3 accounts on the device (1 Imaps/smtps for emails, 1 for Calendars (caldav) and 1 for Contacts (Carddav) with MDM is not a problem to provision that. The Sogo Webmail is more powerful than Outook web Access. I ve got some customers who use only it. Generaly We use Mailcleaner as Frontal relay . This project is really great and have a quanrantine who could be handled by the client ( web interface) and Sogxmail for the groupware server and Chat) For AV we use Clamav or Kaspersky If you wnt more details feel free to ask. Regards Le Jeudi 16 Juillet 2015 10:26 CEST, Götz Reinicke - IT Koordinator a écrit: Hi folks, we are in a review process why we decided to use SOGo and why we are not using MS Exchange. We would like to emphasise our arguments with some use cases and numbers from other users. So it would be great to get some numbers from you like how many users at your site use SOGo, what kind of company / institution are you and what are your reasons in short why you use SOGo. May be you have some arguments why you do not use MS Exchange? Or any other Groupware. E.G. we came from HORDE and we primarily have linux in our server environment. Postfix, dovcot. We support multiple desktop operation systems like Windows, OS X, iOS. Currently we have about 600 users. SOGo offers all features we currently need, works fine and is less expensive than a Exchange installation to us. Thanks for feedback and regards . Götz -- Götz Reinicke IT-Koordinator Tel. +49 7141 969 82420 E-Mail goetz.reini...@filmakademie.de Filmakademie Baden-Württemberg GmbH Akademiehof 10 71638 Ludwigsburg www.filmakademie.de Eintragung Amtsgericht Stuttgart HRB 205016 Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Jürgen Walter MdL Staatssekretär im Ministerium für Wissenschaft, Forschung und Kunst Baden-Württemberg Geschäftsführer: Prof. Thomas Schadt -- Alain Abbas 11 rue Robert Schumann 54500 Vandoeuvre Tel : +333 83 18 02 70 skype: alain.abbas -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] how exclude a mail address from global address list
On 15/07/15 18:16, "Christian M. Jensen" wrote:
>Hi,
>
>On 15-07-2015 16:56, Yavuz Maşlak wrote:
>>
>> On 15/07/15 16:25, "Francis Lachapelle" wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Yavuz
>>>
On Jul 15, 2015, at 3:23 AM, Yavuz Maşlak
wrote:
i have 3 domains ( for example a.com b.comc.com ).
Users of A.com and b.com can see eachother but c.com
C.com ¹s users can only see eachother but other domains.
How can i do that ?
Could you give me an example?
>>> This should do it:
>>>
>>> SOGoDomainsVisibility = ( (a.com, b.com), (c.com) );
>>>
>>>
>>> Francis--
>>> users@sogo.nu
>>> https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
>> I tried now. Unfortunately, it does not work.
>> Whan can be the problem ?
>>
>
>How do you define your domains in SOGo configuration?
>
>if your just set all your configuration in 'SOGoUserSources' then SOGo
>has no way of detecting what user source belong to what domain
>but if you use the 'Domains' value then 'SOGoDomainsVisibility' will
>work as expected
>
>using the domain parameter:
>
> domains = {
> "domain.com" = {
> SOGoMailDomain = "domain.com";
> SOGoSuperUsernames = (
> "postmas...@domain.com"
> );
> SOGoUserSources = (
> {
> type = sql;
> id = "sql-auth";
> isAddressBook = NO;
> .
> },
> {
> type = sql;
> id = "sql_addressbook";
> isAddressBook = YES;
> .
> }
> );
> };
> "domain1.com" = {
> SOGoMailDomain = "domain1.com";
> SOGoSuperUsernames = (
> "postmas...@domain1.com"
> );
> SOGoUserSources = (
> {
> type = ldap;
> id = "ldap_auth";
> isAddressBook = NO;
> .
> },
> {
> type = ldap;
> id = "ldap_addressbook";
> isAddressBook = YES;
> .
> }
> );
> };
>};
>
>
>Regards
>Christian Jensen
>--
>users@sogo.nu
>https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Ok I edited now, i restarted sogo but "SOGoDomainsVisibility = ( (a.com,
b.com), (c.com) ); “ directive doesn’t appear to work .
But at least i can use filter for another domains as we defined for every
domain seperately.
--
users@sogo.nu
https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] How to migrate from 32bit system with SOGo 2.2.7 to 64bit SOGo 2.3.0
Hello Christian, migration to 2.3.0 worked without a problem. Thank you for your kind help. Regards Andreas Am 16. Juli 2015 13:26:20 schrieb Christian Mack : Hello Andreas Oster Am 16.07.2015 um 09:39 schrieb Andreas Oster: > > I am currently stuck with a 2.2.7 SOGo installation because I have > installed it on a Ubuntu Trusty 32bit some time ago. Unfortunately 32bit > does not seem to be supported anymore by SOGo so I would need to setup a > new 64bit server and move the user data. > > Can someone describe the steps needed to move the data to the new server > ? Do I have to install version 2.2.7 on the new server or is it possible > to restore the backup from the old server (2.2.7) to SOGo v2.3.0 ? > Do you use a multi domain setup? If yes, do you have usernames including the domain? If not, you have to rename all users before making the backup and adapt the config accordingly. Then set up a fresh 2.3.0 64-bit SOGo. Configure it with sogo.conf and start it. SOGo should create all necessary tables in its database(s). Make a backup with sogo-tool. Copy the sogo-tool backup from your old system to the new one. Restore this backup with sogo-tool into the new system. Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Christian Mack Universität Konstanz Kommunikations-, Informations-, Medienzentrum (KIM) Abteilung Basisdienste 78457 Konstanz +49 7531 88-4416 -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] 2.3.0 Update problems
Gotcha, thanks Christian! ~ Laz Peterson Paravis, LLC > On Jul 16, 2015, at 1:00 AM, Christian Mack > wrote: > > Hello Laz C. Peterson > > Yes it is necessary to run the database script on Ubuntu too. > > > Kind regards, > Christian Mack > > Am 15.07.2015 um 20:54 schrieb Laz C. Peterson: >> Hey there Francis, >> >> An issue on Ubuntu side as well. Running 14.04.2 here, I decided to upgrade >> SOGo this morning using the packages supplied by Inverse. After the update, >> users can log in and view email, etc. But none of the WebDAV-based items >> were working. Calendars were missing to the web client and general access >> to the CalDAV would not let any modifications happen. >> >> I was not aware of a script that needed to be run — is that true for Ubuntu >> package as well? >> >> We had to restore a system image of the SOGo server that was running 2.2.17a >> in order to regain functionality. >> >> ~ Laz Peterson >> Paravis, LLC >> >>> On Jul 15, 2015, at 6:37 AM, Francis Lachapelle >>> wrote: >>> >>> On Jul 15, 2015, at 9:27 AM, Sam wrote: Hello Francis, No, I run under the root user. I can't do a "su - sogo" on my system... The sogo user is a nologin account. Is there another way to do this? I had also try to modify this parameters : defaultusername=sogo defaultdatabase=sogo directly in the script "sql-update-2.2.17_to_2.3.0.sh " without succes. >>> >>> Try with sudo: >>> >>> sudo -u sogo bash sql-update-2.2.17_to_2.3.0.sh >>> Le 15/07/2015 15:00, Francis Lachapelle a écrit : > Hello Sam > >> On Jul 15, 2015, at 5:18 AM, Sam wrote: >> >>> I try to update from v2.2.17a to v2.3.0, the "yum update sogo" command >>> works great but when I launch the script sql-update-2.2.17_to_2.3.0.sh >>> an error occurs : >>> >>> # bash sql-update-2.2.17_to_2.3.0.sh >>> sogo-tool: error while loading shared libraries: libSOGo.so.2: cannot >>> open shared object file: No such file or directory >>> Couldn't fetch OCSFolderInfoURL value, aborting >>> >>> I can see the libSOGo.so.2 file here : >>> /usr/lib/GNUstep/Frameworks/SOGo.framework/Versions/2/sogo/libSOGo.so. >>> /usr/lib/sogo/libSOGo.so.2 >>> > Do you execute the script as the sogo user? > > > Francis > -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists >>> >>> -- >>> users@sogo.nu >>> https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists >> > > > -- > Christian Mack > Universität Konstanz > Kommunikations-, Informations-, Medienzentrum (KIM) > Abteilung Basisdienste > 78457 Konstanz > +49 7531 88-4416 > -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] How to migrate from 32bit system with SOGo 2.2.7 to 64bit SOGo 2.3.0
Hello Christian, thank you for your response. I have a single domain setup and am using a LDAP backend for user authentication. If I understand correct I will have to first install version 2.2.7 in order to be able to restore the data. Thanks best regards Andreas Am 16.07.2015 um 13:26 schrieb Christian Mack: > Hello Andreas Oster > > Am 16.07.2015 um 09:39 schrieb Andreas Oster: >> I am currently stuck with a 2.2.7 SOGo installation because I have >> installed it on a Ubuntu Trusty 32bit some time ago. Unfortunately 32bit >> does not seem to be supported anymore by SOGo so I would need to setup a >> new 64bit server and move the user data. >> >> Can someone describe the steps needed to move the data to the new server >> ? Do I have to install version 2.2.7 on the new server or is it possible >> to restore the backup from the old server (2.2.7) to SOGo v2.3.0 ? >> > Do you use a multi domain setup? > If yes, do you have usernames including the domain? > If not, you have to rename all users before making the backup and adapt > the config accordingly. > > Then set up a fresh 2.3.0 64-bit SOGo. > Configure it with sogo.conf and start it. > SOGo should create all necessary tables in its database(s). > > Make a backup with sogo-tool. > Copy the sogo-tool backup from your old system to the new one. > Restore this backup with sogo-tool into the new system. > > > Kind regards, > Christian Mack > signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [SOGo] 2.3.0 Update problems
Thanks Steve! It's better but now it missing libOGoContentStore.so.0.9, I just have found /usr/lib/sogo/lib/libGDLContentStore.so : sogo-tool: error while loading shared libraries: libOGoContentStore.so.0.9: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Le 15/07/2015 20:21, Steve Boley a écrit : Look at your ld.so.conf and see if /usr/lib/sogo is defined and if it is run ldconfig and if not add it and run ldconfig and try again. This is how libraries outside of system paths are sourced out. Steve -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Appointment Mails - double or nothing?
Hello Sorry for the late answer Am 18.06.2015 um 16:54 schrieb Marc Patermann: > > with SOGoAppointmentSendEMailNotifications set, mails on invitations and > appointment changes are created and sent. > That is what we want. > > We use 2.2.17a and Thunderbird with the extensions. > > On a new invitation there is one mail sent. > This mail is created by the SOGo server itself. > > If one reacts on an invitation, SOGo immediately sends another mail the > the meeting originator. This is fine too. > > But then Lightning(?) asks, if to sent a(nother) mail in Outlook format? > If yes, there is a second mail created and sent from the client host to > the meeting originator. This is not fine at all. > > > If SOGoAppointmentSendEMailNotifications is off, then there is no Mail > no more. :( > > > How do I achieve to get mail sent, but only one(!) per action and this > has to be Outlook compatible to communicate with external partners? > > If you want invitations per email, you have to set SOGoAppointmentSendEMailNotifications = YES Thunderbird/Lightning does not always ask this "Outlook compatible invitation" question. If it does, you should always deny that. That is especially important, as these invitation emails send from Thunderbird/Lightning are utterly broken (even the developers say so!). Therefore they can break your invitation completely. This is known, and they should be disabled by default on new installations. I also have users with that problem. There was a setting in older versions of Thunderbird, to disable these completely. This setting is no longer there. Perhaps there is a setting in about:config to do so, but I do not know it. If you find, how to disable these, please give us feedback. Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Christian Mack Universität Konstanz Kommunikations-, Informations-, Medienzentrum (KIM) Abteilung Basisdienste 78457 Konstanz +49 7531 88-4416 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [SOGo] How to migrate from 32bit system with SOGo 2.2.7 to 64bit SOGo 2.3.0
Hello Andreas Oster Am 16.07.2015 um 09:39 schrieb Andreas Oster: > > I am currently stuck with a 2.2.7 SOGo installation because I have > installed it on a Ubuntu Trusty 32bit some time ago. Unfortunately 32bit > does not seem to be supported anymore by SOGo so I would need to setup a > new 64bit server and move the user data. > > Can someone describe the steps needed to move the data to the new server > ? Do I have to install version 2.2.7 on the new server or is it possible > to restore the backup from the old server (2.2.7) to SOGo v2.3.0 ? > Do you use a multi domain setup? If yes, do you have usernames including the domain? If not, you have to rename all users before making the backup and adapt the config accordingly. Then set up a fresh 2.3.0 64-bit SOGo. Configure it with sogo.conf and start it. SOGo should create all necessary tables in its database(s). Make a backup with sogo-tool. Copy the sogo-tool backup from your old system to the new one. Restore this backup with sogo-tool into the new system. Kind regards, Christian Mack -- Christian Mack Universität Konstanz Kommunikations-, Informations-, Medienzentrum (KIM) Abteilung Basisdienste 78457 Konstanz +49 7531 88-4416 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
[SOGo] Survey - Who uses SOGo (and why not exchange)
Hi folks, we are in a review process why we decided to use SOGo and why we are not using MS Exchange. We would like to emphasise our arguments with some use cases and numbers from other users. So it would be great to get some numbers from you like how many users at your site use SOGo, what kind of company / institution are you and what are your reasons in short why you use SOGo. May be you have some arguments why you do not use MS Exchange? Or any other Groupware. E.G. we came from HORDE and we primarily have linux in our server environment. Postfix, dovcot. We support multiple desktop operation systems like Windows, OS X, iOS. Currently we have about 600 users. SOGo offers all features we currently need, works fine and is less expensive than a Exchange installation to us. Thanks for feedback and regards . Götz -- Götz Reinicke IT-Koordinator Tel. +49 7141 969 82420 E-Mail goetz.reini...@filmakademie.de Filmakademie Baden-Württemberg GmbH Akademiehof 10 71638 Ludwigsburg www.filmakademie.de Eintragung Amtsgericht Stuttgart HRB 205016 Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Jürgen Walter MdL Staatssekretär im Ministerium für Wissenschaft, Forschung und Kunst Baden-Württemberg Geschäftsführer: Prof. Thomas Schadt smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
[SOGo] How to migrate from 32bit system with SOGo 2.2.7 to 64bit SOGo 2.3.0
Hi everybody, I am currently stuck with a 2.2.7 SOGo installation because I have installed it on a Ubuntu Trusty 32bit some time ago. Unfortunately 32bit does not seem to be supported anymore by SOGo so I would need to setup a new 64bit server and move the user data. Can someone describe the steps needed to move the data to the new server ? Do I have to install version 2.2.7 on the new server or is it possible to restore the backup from the old server (2.2.7) to SOGo v2.3.0 ? Thank you very much for your kind help. regards Andreas -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
[SOGo] WOHttpTransaction => client disconnected during delivery of response
hello Here is the answer I during a disconnection error: Jul 15 21:50:54 sogod [24808]: [ERROR] <0x0x7f4529dabf18[WOHttpTransaction]> client disconnected during delivery of response for (len=59995822): the socket was shutdown Jul 15 21:50:54 sogod [24808]: localhost.localdomain "POST /SOGo/Microsoft-Server-ActiveSync/Microsoft-Server-ActiveSync?Cmd=Sync&User=user@domaine&DeviceId=ACFCC7887550468ABFE3C821A65EF149&DeviceType=WindowsOutlook15 HTTP/1.1" 200 59995822/7116 90.772 - - 248M Is it what? Michel-- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] 2.3.0 Update problems
Hello Laz C. Peterson Yes it is necessary to run the database script on Ubuntu too. Kind regards, Christian Mack Am 15.07.2015 um 20:54 schrieb Laz C. Peterson: > Hey there Francis, > > An issue on Ubuntu side as well. Running 14.04.2 here, I decided to upgrade > SOGo this morning using the packages supplied by Inverse. After the update, > users can log in and view email, etc. But none of the WebDAV-based items > were working. Calendars were missing to the web client and general access to > the CalDAV would not let any modifications happen. > > I was not aware of a script that needed to be run — is that true for Ubuntu > package as well? > > We had to restore a system image of the SOGo server that was running 2.2.17a > in order to regain functionality. > > ~ Laz Peterson > Paravis, LLC > >> On Jul 15, 2015, at 6:37 AM, Francis Lachapelle >> wrote: >> >> >>> On Jul 15, 2015, at 9:27 AM, Sam wrote: >>> >>> Hello Francis, >>> >>> No, I run under the root user. I can't do a "su - sogo" on my system... The >>> sogo user is a nologin account. Is there another way to do this? >>> I had also try to modify this parameters : >>> defaultusername=sogo >>> defaultdatabase=sogo >>> directly in the script "sql-update-2.2.17_to_2.3.0.sh " without succes. >> >> Try with sudo: >> >> sudo -u sogo bash sql-update-2.2.17_to_2.3.0.sh >> >>> Le 15/07/2015 15:00, Francis Lachapelle a écrit : Hello Sam > On Jul 15, 2015, at 5:18 AM, Sam wrote: > >> I try to update from v2.2.17a to v2.3.0, the "yum update sogo" command >> works great but when I launch the script sql-update-2.2.17_to_2.3.0.sh >> an error occurs : >> >> # bash sql-update-2.2.17_to_2.3.0.sh >> sogo-tool: error while loading shared libraries: libSOGo.so.2: cannot >> open shared object file: No such file or directory >> Couldn't fetch OCSFolderInfoURL value, aborting >> >> I can see the libSOGo.so.2 file here : >> /usr/lib/GNUstep/Frameworks/SOGo.framework/Versions/2/sogo/libSOGo.so. >> /usr/lib/sogo/libSOGo.so.2 >> Do you execute the script as the sogo user? Francis >>> >>> -- >>> users@sogo.nu >>> https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists >> >> -- >> users@sogo.nu >> https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists > -- Christian Mack Universität Konstanz Kommunikations-, Informations-, Medienzentrum (KIM) Abteilung Basisdienste 78457 Konstanz +49 7531 88-4416 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
