Re: [SOGo] Is SOGo Connector dead?
Hi, thank you for the feedback. I will take a look on this specific error monday. Sebastien Le Vendredi, Octobre 28, 2022 22:00 CEST, "\"t.b.mailingli...@igeno-fat.de\"" (t.b.mailingli...@igeno-fat.de) a écrit: Bonjour Sebastien, I'm not sure if I have made something wrong (configuration) or if there is still a problem with the plug-in. Do you have it running in Thunderbird? I have Thunderbird 102.4.0 (64-Bit). No Sogo Icons in Calendar :/ According to the Changelog you have addressed the Error which is not in the error log anymore: unboundmodifyVCard is undefined https://github.com/Alinto/sogo-connector/compare/master...tb102 But my Thunderbird also has the Error: calendar_list_tree_widget.controllers is undefined Please have a look at my two attached images of the error log of the old 78.0.1 and the new 102.BETA plugin. -TB Am 28.10.2022 um 12:13 schrieb smizr...@alinto.eu (smizr...@alinto.eu):Dear community users, A BETA version of sogo-connector (Thunderbird 102 support) is available here : https://github.com/Alinto/sogo-connector/tree/tb102 Please let me know if you have issues on bugs.sogo.nu. Sebastien Alinto Le Mercredi, Octobre 19, 2022 15:06 CEST, "Sven Schwedas" (sven.schwe...@tao.at) a écrit: Last and only commit this year was in June, and most if not all functionality is broken in current TB releases (subscription status isn't synced, subscription buttons are missing, etc.). Do we have to write off Thunderbird support for SOGo? -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, / Best Regards, Sven Schwedas, Tech Lead ✉ sven.schwe...@tao.at | ☎ +43 680 301 7167 TAO Digital | Teil der TAO Beratungs- & Management GmbH Lendplatz 45 | FN 213999f/Klagenfurt, FB-Gericht Villach A8020 Graz | https://www.tao-digital.at
[SOGo] BTS activities for Friday, October 28 2022
Title: BTS activities for Friday, October 28 2022 BTS Activities Home page: https://bugs.sogo.nu Project: SOGo For the period covering: Friday, October 28 2022 idlast updatestatus (resolution)categorysummary 5633 2022-10-28 10:02:43 updated (open) Packaging (RedHat) Build packages for CentOS Stream 9, Rocky 9, AlmaLinux 9
Re: [SOGo] Is SOGo Connector dead?
Bonjour Sebastien, I'm not sure if I have made something wrong (configuration) or if there is still a problem with the plug-in. Do you have it running in Thunderbird? I have Thunderbird 102.4.0 (64-Bit). No Sogo Icons in Calendar :/ According to the Changelog you have addressed the Error which is not in the error log anymore: unboundmodifyVCardis undefined https://github.com/Alinto/sogo-connector/compare/master...tb102 But my Thunderbird also has the Error: calendar_list_tree_widget.controllers is undefined Please have a look at my two attached images of the error log of the old 78.0.1 and the new 102.BETA plugin. -TB Am 28.10.2022 um 12:13 schrieb smizr...@alinto.eu (smizr...@alinto.eu): Dear community users, A BETA version of sogo-connector (Thunderbird 102 support) is available here : https://github.com/Alinto/sogo-connector/tree/tb102 Please let me know if you have issues on bugs.sogo.nu. Sebastien Alinto Le Mercredi, Octobre 19, 2022 15:06 CEST, "Sven Schwedas" (sven.schwe...@tao.at) a écrit: Last and only commit this year was in June, and most if not all functionality is broken in current TB releases (subscription status isn't synced, subscription buttons are missing, etc.). Do we have to write off Thunderbird support for SOGo? -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, / Best Regards, Sven Schwedas, Tech Lead ✉ sven.schwe...@tao.at | ☎ +43 680 301 7167 TAO Digital | Teil der TAO Beratungs- & Management GmbH Lendplatz 45 | FN 213999f/Klagenfurt, FB-Gericht Villach A8020 Graz | https://www.tao-digital.at
Re: [SOGo] App based Key for calendar access
Hello Bastian, well, I don't know your setup, and I also don't know to what extent you could migrate or maybe set up from scratch (or willing to do so). I've been using "mailcow" [1] for a few years, and there's the option of assigning app passwords for individual services. Maybe this would be a solution for you. For me, this server suite is the ideal solution for communication etc. You don't necessarily have to like dockerized solutions, but I've always been fascinated and impressed by the simplicity of this product, even if it's not always absolutely state-of-the-art/up-to-date. And just for the sake of completeness: I am NOT associated with mailcow in any way ;) best regards Juergen [1] https://mailcow.email Am 28.10.22 um 17:52 schrieb "Bastian Bringenberg" (bast...@agentur-pottkinder.de): Hey there, we are currently planning on using using a system like calendly to connect to our sogo calendar via caldav. It would be totally awesome if there would be some kind of key based access only for a calendar or its availability. Or some sort to not have them store our passwords in plain text and being able to access to our mails. Does someone have an idea how we could solve this? Is this a feature request or is a solution already available? Have a nice halloween weekend =), Bastian -- /¯\ No | \ / HTML |Juergen Bruckner Xin |microang...@microangelo.priv.at / \ Mail | smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
[SOGo] App based Key for calendar access
Hey there, we are currently planning on using using a system like calendly to connect to our sogo calendar via caldav. It would be totally awesome if there would be some kind of key based access only for a calendar or its availability. Or some sort to not have them store our passwords in plain text and being able to access to our mails. Does someone have an idea how we could solve this? Is this a feature request or is a solution already available? Have a nice halloween weekend =), Bastian
Re: [SOGo] show event organizer/creator on event detail
Hello, thank you for your reply and your time my scenario is as follows holiday calendar shared in read write with all company users by the secretary (user B), where user B need to have an overview of all holiday periods for all users: - user A creates her holiday period in the holiday calendar - user B does not see that it was user A who created the event and does not know who is on holiday (only in raw source). User A is forced to add himself as the organiser of the event, or is that not the case? Claudio Il 28/10/22 16:39, Christian Mack (christian.m...@uni-konstanz.de) ha scritto: Hello Scenario 1) Secretary and Boss -- Secretary is managing appointments for her Boss. Boss is also adding appointments and blocking parts. Boss is always owner, as it is her calendar. => everybody expects the boss to show up on that appointments. => nobody is interested in who added the event. Scenario 2) worker want to discuss something with some coworkers worker A creates an event in her own calendar and invites the other workers B + C and D => worker A is busy for the event => all attendees are visible. => everybody is aware, who the owner is, as worker A is noted as organizer. Scenario 3) someone creates a training session in a "normal" account in a global visible announcement calendar --- trainer adds event in announcement calendar and adds herself as attendee and role "Chair". Then also adds several other attendees as trainees with role "attendee". => Trainer gets invitation and is busy after accepting. => everybody is aware, who the trainer is => owner/organizer is the announcement account, but that is irrelevant. => acceptance state of all attendees is visible in the event Scenario 4) someone creates a training session in a "resource" account (e.g. for a conference room) --- Trainer creates event in her own calendar and invites "resource" account and all trainees. => Trainer is owner and organizer => Trainer is busy for this event => all attendees get informed and attendance state is visible for everyone => resource is busy after auto acceptance Scenario 5) Someone creates events with malicious intend or accidentally - User A shares her calendar with create privileges to a lot of people. User B adds nonsense events to A's calendar. => User A checks X-SOGO-COMPONENT-CREATED-BY and complains to User B => Problem solved For which scenario do you need visibility for X-SOGO-COMPONENT-CREATED-BY in events per default? Kind regards, Christian Mack Am 26.10.22 um 08:23 schrieb Claudio Brocco - Peer Srl (c.bro...@peer.biz): Hello, thank you for the answer. Yes, I notice the field X-SOGO-COMPONENT-CREATED-BY in raw source. I think it is not easy to use for a normal user also because he expects as with other events to see the organiser in the same place. Thank you Claudio Il 25/10/22 13:08, Christian Mack (christian.m...@uni-konstanz.de) ha scritto: Hello That is not true. When you create an event in a shared calendar not owned by you, then you will be noted as "X-SOGO-COMPONENT-CREATED-BY: y...@yourdomain.com" Problem is, you have to view the raw source of the event, in order to see it. Kind regards, Christian Mack Am 24.10.22 um 16:15 schrieb Claudio Brocco - Peer Srl (c.bro...@peer.biz): Yes, but if I create an event in a shared calendar not owned by myself there is no information about the creator/organizer. Other user with access to the shared calendar cannot see who has created the event Thank you Claudio /10/22 11:20, Christian Mack (christian.m...@uni-konstanz.de) ha scritto: Hello That is how the standard demands it. Why or when do you need that? If there are no attendees, then the owner of the calendar is always the organizer. Kind regards, Christian Mack Am 26.09.22 um 09:29 schrieb Claudio Brocco - Peer Srl (c.bro...@peer.biz): Hi, I kindly ask if there is an option to show the organizer in a sogo calendar if no attendee are added to the event. I notice that in the raw source of the event the organizer is not present and not displayed. In event with attendee both are displayed. Thank you
Re: [SOGo] show event organizer/creator on event detail
Hello Scenario 1) Secretary and Boss -- Secretary is managing appointments for her Boss. Boss is also adding appointments and blocking parts. Boss is always owner, as it is her calendar. => everybody expects the boss to show up on that appointments. => nobody is interested in who added the event. Scenario 2) worker want to discuss something with some coworkers worker A creates an event in her own calendar and invites the other workers B + C and D => worker A is busy for the event => all attendees are visible. => everybody is aware, who the owner is, as worker A is noted as organizer. Scenario 3) someone creates a training session in a "normal" account in a global visible announcement calendar --- trainer adds event in announcement calendar and adds herself as attendee and role "Chair". Then also adds several other attendees as trainees with role "attendee". => Trainer gets invitation and is busy after accepting. => everybody is aware, who the trainer is => owner/organizer is the announcement account, but that is irrelevant. => acceptance state of all attendees is visible in the event Scenario 4) someone creates a training session in a "resource" account (e.g. for a conference room) --- Trainer creates event in her own calendar and invites "resource" account and all trainees. => Trainer is owner and organizer => Trainer is busy for this event => all attendees get informed and attendance state is visible for everyone => resource is busy after auto acceptance Scenario 5) Someone creates events with malicious intend or accidentally - User A shares her calendar with create privileges to a lot of people. User B adds nonsense events to A's calendar. => User A checks X-SOGO-COMPONENT-CREATED-BY and complains to User B => Problem solved For which scenario do you need visibility for X-SOGO-COMPONENT-CREATED-BY in events per default? Kind regards, Christian Mack Am 26.10.22 um 08:23 schrieb Claudio Brocco - Peer Srl (c.bro...@peer.biz): Hello, thank you for the answer. Yes, I notice the field X-SOGO-COMPONENT-CREATED-BY in raw source. I think it is not easy to use for a normal user also because he expects as with other events to see the organiser in the same place. Thank you Claudio Il 25/10/22 13:08, Christian Mack (christian.m...@uni-konstanz.de) ha scritto: Hello That is not true. When you create an event in a shared calendar not owned by you, then you will be noted as "X-SOGO-COMPONENT-CREATED-BY: y...@yourdomain.com" Problem is, you have to view the raw source of the event, in order to see it. Kind regards, Christian Mack Am 24.10.22 um 16:15 schrieb Claudio Brocco - Peer Srl (c.bro...@peer.biz): Yes, but if I create an event in a shared calendar not owned by myself there is no information about the creator/organizer. Other user with access to the shared calendar cannot see who has created the event Thank you Claudio /10/22 11:20, Christian Mack (christian.m...@uni-konstanz.de) ha scritto: Hello That is how the standard demands it. Why or when do you need that? If there are no attendees, then the owner of the calendar is always the organizer. Kind regards, Christian Mack Am 26.09.22 um 09:29 schrieb Claudio Brocco - Peer Srl (c.bro...@peer.biz): Hi, I kindly ask if there is an option to show the organizer in a sogo calendar if no attendee are added to the event. I notice that in the raw source of the event the organizer is not present and not displayed. In event with attendee both are displayed. Thank you -- Christian Mack Universität Konstanz Kommunikations-, Informations-, Medienzentrum (KIM) Abteilung IT-Dienste Forschung, Lehre, Infrastruktur 78457 Konstanz +49 7531 88-4416 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [SOGo] Is SOGo Connector dead?
Hi, yes the core features are more or less available natively now (allthough the discovery feature is not automatic yet). For us the biggest problem with the connector is to loose the ability to sync address lists after TB 68. Creating and configuring calendars and address books and managing ACLs is only a nice to have but not realy a critical feature. Having the ability to keep every bit of data in sync is much more important. I think a shift to implement vCard 4.0 in SOGo (and a corresponding pull request for Thunderbird) to have actual RFC-compliant synchronization of adress lists instead of binding ressources to a limited (because of the new AddOn format) extension that breaks every release would be a lot better. And even if Thunderbird doesn't move quickly enough to vCard 4.0 there is still CardBook... https://bugs.sogo.nu/view.php?id=5530 Greetings, Lukas Am Freitag, dem 28.10.2022 um 12:37 +0200 schrieb Juergen Bruckner: > Dear Sven, > > it is possible to use Thunderbird with a SOGo server without the SOGo > connector, as Thunderbird has integrated support for CardDAV/CalDAV. > I've been using Thunderbird and SOGo without a connector for a long > time. > > From my point of view, the connector is only necessary if you want > to > make special settings/activities directly from Thunderbird without > going > through the SOGo web interface. > > best regards > Juergen > > Am 19.10.22 um 15:06 schrieb Sven Schwedas (sven.schwe...@tao.at): > > Last and only commit this year was in June, and most if not all > > functionality is broken in current TB releases (subscription status > > isn't synced, subscription buttons are missing, etc.). Do we have > > to > > write off Thunderbird support for SOGo? > > > -- Lukas Wringer Universität Augsburg Rechenzentrum Service & Support 86135 Augsburg signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [SOGo] Is SOGo Connector dead?
Hi, On 28/10/2022 12:37, Juergen Bruckner (microang...@microangelo.priv.at) wrote: Dear Sven, it is possible to use Thunderbird with a SOGo server without the SOGo connector, as Thunderbird has integrated support for CardDAV/CalDAV. I've been using Thunderbird and SOGo without a connector for a long time. From my point of view, the connector is only necessary if you want to make special settings/activities directly from Thunderbird without going through the SOGo web interface. I want to add here as well... if you have a large user base (e.g. in a company) and everyone wants to use Thunderbird along with their SOGo calendars and address books, the connector is immensely important. For a single user or a handful of users, not using the connector is fine, but it gives us the opportunity to roll out personal connector addons for each and every one of our employees who only have to install it to get their usual SOGo experience, which is convenient and saves a lot of time. Best regards Christoph best regards Juergen Am 19.10.22 um 15:06 schrieb Sven Schwedas (sven.schwe...@tao.at): Last and only commit this year was in June, and most if not all functionality is broken in current TB releases (subscription status isn't synced, subscription buttons are missing, etc.). Do we have to write off Thunderbird support for SOGo?
Re: [SOGo] Is SOGo Connector dead?
Dear Sven, it is possible to use Thunderbird with a SOGo server without the SOGo connector, as Thunderbird has integrated support for CardDAV/CalDAV. I've been using Thunderbird and SOGo without a connector for a long time. From my point of view, the connector is only necessary if you want to make special settings/activities directly from Thunderbird without going through the SOGo web interface. best regards Juergen Am 19.10.22 um 15:06 schrieb Sven Schwedas (sven.schwe...@tao.at): Last and only commit this year was in June, and most if not all functionality is broken in current TB releases (subscription status isn't synced, subscription buttons are missing, etc.). Do we have to write off Thunderbird support for SOGo? -- /¯\ No | \ / HTML |Juergen Bruckner Xin |microang...@microangelo.priv.at / \ Mail | smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [SOGo] Is SOGo Connector dead?
Dear community users, A BETA version of sogo-connector (Thunderbird 102 support) is available here : https://github.com/Alinto/sogo-connector/tree/tb102 Please let me know if you have issues on bugs.sogo.nu. Sebastien Alinto Le Mercredi, Octobre 19, 2022 15:06 CEST, "Sven Schwedas" (sven.schwe...@tao.at) a écrit: Last and only commit this year was in June, and most if not all functionality is broken in current TB releases (subscription status isn't synced, subscription buttons are missing, etc.). Do we have to write off Thunderbird support for SOGo? -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, / Best Regards, Sven Schwedas, Tech Lead ✉ sven.schwe...@tao.at | ☎ +43 680 301 7167 TAO Digital | Teil der TAO Beratungs- & Management GmbH Lendplatz 45 | FN 213999f/Klagenfurt, FB-Gericht Villach A8020 Graz | https://www.tao-digital.at
