Re: [SOGo] ActiveSync question

2013-09-03 Thread Albrecht Gebhardt
Jan-Frode Myklebust schrieb:
 ...
 mobile clients without ActiveSync is too cumbersome, and my little
 exposure to z-push didn't convince me it was production ready..
but only the SOGo specific derived z-push variants, z-push combined with
zarafa is production ready.



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Re: [SOGo] ActiveSync question

2013-09-03 Thread Albrecht Gebhardt
You may be correct with your guess regarding the licensing situation, if for 
that reason such a project has to stay outside the base SOGo distribution it 
will be ok.

My intention was not to grumble about something, I just wanted to bring some 
attention to this problem. It seems to me that  over the last years several 
trials of implementing ActiveSync have been started by community members, which 
after some time more or less stopped their experiments (at least correct for my 
trial some years ago).

Good to know that there is even another project as mentioned by Corrado Fiore 
in this thread, I will give this also a try.

Another question is: Have these projects all to be based on z-push? What if 
hordes ActiveSync interface also could be used as starting point? Or with 
Openchange: can z-push directly access the MAPI stores as it does when used 
with zarafa (I can be completely wrong here)?

But again it shows the need for better collaboration between ActiveSync 
interested SOGo users.

Best regards,

Albrecht

Am 03.09.2013 um 14:20 schrieb Martin Rabl martin.r...@rablnet.de:

 I think, the problem is ActiveSync itself, because it is not a free solution. 
 We are able to implement it, because of thousand pages of documentation, but 
 have to license using our implementation by Microsoft - theoretically.
 SOGo sets only on free interfaces like CALDAV etc. And it integrates the free 
 Openchange (which implements the IMHO non-free MAPI from Microsoft).
 
 Ok, it would be nice to have a built-in ActiveSync solution in SOGo. But IMHO 
 the better way is to set on third party software, when there are 
 CALDAV-Interfaces (or SMTP/IMAP ...) available.
 
 So, PHP-Push2 seems for me the only way for integrating AS with SOGo, but its 
 not a Inverse project, so they are not responsible for it.
 
 The problem of PHP-Push is the big less:
 - less developers
 - less testing users (!!!)
 - less money
 
 I'm sure, with more developer and more testing users it will do a step 
 forward making ActiveSync usable. And THAT would be for me a solution - 
 instead of grumbling to Inverse.
 
 
 Greetings,
   Martin
 
 Am 03.09.13 12:54, schrieb Jan-Frode Myklebust:
 On Tue, Sep 03, 2013 at 10:54:52AM +0200, alge wrote:
 
 I'm not sure if my situation with ActiveSync beeing a show stopper for
 deploying SOGo is generalizable enough, what do other people think of
 it? Did I miss something?
 
 I completely agree (except we didn't let it stop the show). Configuring
 mobile clients without ActiveSync is too cumbersome, and my little
 exposure to z-push didn't convince me it was production ready..
 
 Is there anything we can do to get Inverse to focus on ActiveSync
 support? Does it need funding? Is it a big difficult feature, or ..?
 
 
 
   -jf
 
 
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Re: [SOGo] SOGoSync

2011-04-11 Thread Albrecht Gebhardt
Kevin C. Smith schrieb:
 On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 08:01:42AM -0500, Donny Brooks wrote:
   
 On 3/27/2011 6:54 PM, Ludovic Marcotte wrote:
 
 On 11-03-25 10:16 PM, Kevin C. Smith wrote:
   
 I saw a few posts about this project,http://geekworld.dk/sogosync/. I'm
 wondering how it's progressing? I would be nice if the code was hosted
 somewhere.
 
 We're still waiting for some license clarifications on some files
 and then, we'll import it in our Monotone repo.

 Regards,

   
 That is good to hear. I have tried emailing Bo directly and via this
 list quite a few times to no avail. Glad to hear it is still being
 developed. Although last I heard before Christmas Bo had a newer
 version that fixed alot of the problems I was having. I have not
 seen anything newer than 121210. Has anyone seen anything newer? The
 main problem I was having was no matter the platform emails were
 coming from they would show as apa...@machine.domain.tld rather than
 u...@domain.tld even though I have set the preferences in the
 settings file.
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 That's why I expressed a wish for a public repo. If we can access it we
 can keep up and maybe help. 

   
I just wanted to remind that at least two modifications are also out
there, one from Fabrice Durand at http://oeufdure.free.fr/download/sogo/
and one from me based on Fabrices version at
http://www.algepop.net/users/alge/sogo/z-push , both only experimental,
not working correctly.

Best regards

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Re: [SOGo] ActiveSync for SOGo

2011-02-08 Thread Albrecht Gebhardt
... continuation of my experiment:

I continued to try to use the z-push/SOGo setup for one more week with
my everyday-use account.

The result stays the same, it is currently not usable (at least for my
setup), most work seems to be necessary in the caldav part, as events
either get lost, doubled, time-shifted or otherwise corrupted when
synced from and to SOGo (from several mobile devices). It also often
timed out and broke the whole sync. Events entered in SOGos webfrontend
often never occured on the synced devices.

The carddav interface is more stable (but also lesser stressed in
everyday use, at least I could watch some character coding problems like
a , beeing replaced by a \,), the IMAP gateway also has some
glitches (not showing new mails on some device while showing it at the
same time on another one).

Now I moved back  to z-push (of course another version) and zarafa which
works without problems with the same devices and running on the same server.

One big difference between z-push/zarafa and z-push/SOGo is also the
server load: Sometimes I had to stop/start my apache to get rid of
almost endless cycling PHP processes (mostly in the caldav module which
did GetMessageList aka ls on SOGos caldav share over and over again,
while the originating client already had timed out).

Albrecht

Albrecht Gebhardt schrieb:
 Hi

 I just want to tell that I recently did some experiments with z-push
 based on the work of Bo and Fabrice.

 It's still not working correctly but nevertheless I want to share it
 here, a patch is attached and should be applied to Fabrices z-push.zip
 file from http://oeufdure.free.fr/download/sogo/

 I did some succesful tests with Windows Mobile 6.0/6.1 devices with a
 rather empty test account,
 but when I tried to switch to my real life account with ~150 contacts,
 ~50 events and a rather full IMAP tree things stopped working reliably.

 Success was also varying for different devices (WebOS, iOS4, Symbian,
 Maemo5, Android 2.1). But my first tests were not systematically
 enough to report them here (errors are doubled events, time-shifted
 events, removed reminders and so on, contacts are ok, but sometimes
 need several syncs before everything is synced, ...)

 So meanwhile I have to stay with Zarafa (because there is no reliable
 sync between WebOS or Maemo5 and SOGo that I know of) before I can
 switch back to SOGo, Funambol and hopefully some future working
 version of z-push for SOGo.

 For details of my changes please look through the attached patch file.

 The files are also available at
 http://www.algepop.net/users/alge/sogo/z-push/


 Best wishes
 Albrecht


 Fabrice Durand schrieb:
 Hi Bo,

 It seems that i have got a problem with reminders, but it doesn't
 broken sync. ...

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