Re: [SOGo] Auto-reply ? Possible

2013-06-12 Thread Albert Shih
 Le 12/06/2013 ? 06:55:39-0400, Ludovic Marcotte a écrit
> On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 05:33 EDT, Albert Shih 
> wrote:
>  
> 
> 
> But is it possible SOGo send a IMIP reply without the user interacting 
> with
> the GUI, for example my user say he only use the agenda never the webmail.
> 
> 
> No.

Thanks.

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Re: [SOGo] Auto-reply ? Possible

2013-06-12 Thread Ludovic Marcotte
On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 05:33 EDT, Albert Shih  wrote: But is it possible SOGo send a IMIP reply without the user interacting withthe GUI, for example my user say he only use the agenda never the webmail.No.--Ludovic Marcottelmarco...@inverse.ca  ::  +1.514.755.3630  ::  http://inverse.caInverse inc. :: Leaders behind SOGo (http://sogo.nu) and PacketFence (http://packetfence.org)


Re: [SOGo] Auto-reply ? Possible

2013-06-12 Thread Albert Shih
 Le 10/06/2013 ? 09:44:20-0400, Ludovic Marcotte a écrit
> On 10/06/13 04:53, Albert Shih wrote:
> > Yes...it's what I understand, but if it's really the case, I'm worry about
> > spamming. Because if sogo going to reply a message for incomming mail
> > without manual action, that's mean some smart people can spam all internet
> > using my (or any) sogo server.
> SOGo will never "reply to an incoming" email automatically. It just 
> can't do that as it doesn't know the user's password.
> 
Yes that's I known. 

> SOGo sent an IMIP reply. That is trigger by the user from the web GUI of 
> SOGo, or by a CalDAV client (over a PUT action).

But is it possible SOGo send a IMIP reply without the user interacting with
the GUI, for example my user say he only use the agenda never the webmail. 

In that case is it possible sogo send a reply for some invitation mail
(spam meaning not from a other user of SOGo). 

I'm asking just for understand how this mail can be send.

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Re: [SOGo] Auto-reply ? Possible

2013-06-10 Thread Ludovic Marcotte

On 10/06/13 04:53, Albert Shih wrote:

Yes...it's what I understand, but if it's really the case, I'm worry about
spamming. Because if sogo going to reply a message for incomming mail
without manual action, that's mean some smart people can spam all internet
using my (or any) sogo server.
SOGo will never "reply to an incoming" email automatically. It just 
can't do that as it doesn't know the user's password.


SOGo sent an IMIP reply. That is trigger by the user from the web GUI of 
SOGo, or by a CalDAV client (over a PUT action).


Look there, nowhere else.

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Re: [SOGo] Auto-reply ? Possible

2013-06-10 Thread Albert Shih
 Le 08/06/2013 ? 19:20:08-0400, Ron Scott-Adams a écrit
> It means it passed through SOGo, and that SOGo tacked on that header because 
> it

Yes...it's what I understand, but if it's really the case, I'm worry about
spamming. Because if sogo going to reply a message for incomming mail
without manual action, that's mean some smart people can spam all internet
using my (or any) sogo server.

Because I'm sure the first message is a spam (selling viagra)


> classified the message as a calendar invitation reply. Can you post your
> sogo.conf, please?

Of course  

Regards.

JAS

==

{
GCSFolderDebugEnabled = NO;
GCSFolderStoreDebugEnabled = NO;
LDAPDebugEnabled = NO;
OCSEMailAlarmsFolderURL = 
"postgresql://sogo:xxx@127.0.0.1:5432/sogo/sogo_alarms_folder";
OCSFolderInfoURL = 
"postgresql://sogo:xxx@127.0.0.1:5432/sogo/sogo_folder_info";
OCSFolderManagerSQLDebugEnabled = NO;
OCSSessionsFolderURL = 
"postgresql://sogo:xxx@127.0.0.1:5432/sogo/sogo_sessions_folder";
PGDebugEnabled = NO;
SOGoACLsSendEMailNotifications = YES;
SOGoAppointmentSendEMailNotifications = YES;
SOGoDebugRequests = NO;
SOGoDebuggingEnabled = NO;
SOGoDraftsFolderName = "INBOX.Drafts";
SOGoEnableEMailAlarms = YES;
SOGoEnablePublicAccess = YES;
SOGoFirstDayOfWeek = 1;
SOGoFirstWeekOfYear = FirstFullWeek;
SOGoFoldersSendEMailNotifications = YES;
SOGoIMAPServer = "imaps://hermes.obspm.fr:993";
SOGoLanguage = French;
SOGoLoginModule = Calendar;
SOGoMailDomain = "obspm.fr";
SOGoMailMessageCheck = "every_5_minutes";
SOGoMailMessageForwarding = attached;
SOGoMailingMechanism = smtp;
SOGoProfileURL = 
"postgresql://sogo:xxx@127.0.0.1:5432/sogo/sogo_user_profile";
SOGoSMTPServer = "smtp-int-m.obspm.fr";
SOGoSentFolderName = "INBOX.Sent";
SOGoTimeZone = "Europe/Paris";
SOGoTrashFolderName = "INBOX.Trash";
SOGoUIxDebugEnabled = NO;
SOGoUserSources = (
{   
CNFieldName = cn;
IDFieldName = uid;
UIDFieldName = uid;
baseDN = "dc=obspm,dc=fr";
bindDN = "uid=dsogo,ou=sio,dc=obspm,dc=fr";
bindFields = uid;
bindPassword = "xx";
canAuthenticate = YES;
displayName = LDAP;
hostname = "ldap-m2.obspm.fr";
id = public;
isAddressBook = YES;
port = 389;
scope = SUB;
}
);
SoDebugObjectTraversal = NO;
SoSecurityManagerDebugEnabled = NO;
WODebugZipResponse = YES;
WODontZipResponse = YES;
WOWorkersCount = 6;
}

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Re: [SOGo] Auto-reply ? Possible

2013-06-08 Thread Ron Scott-Adams
It means it passed through SOGo, and that SOGo tacked on that header because it 
classified the message as a calendar invitation reply. Can you post your 
sogo.conf, please?


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On Jun 8, 2013, at 03:42 , Albert Shih  wrote:

> Le 07/06/2013 ? 22:59:47-0400, Ron Scott-Adams a écrit
> Hi,
> 
>> I'm willing to bet this user has some setting in their client treating 
>> calendar
> 
> Wellbecause I don't like to loose ;-) ;-)
> 
>> invites in some fashion (either automatically rejecting or accepting them.)
> 
> PossibleHe using generally AppleMail, but if it's the situation why the
> mail « he » (or AppleMail) send have this header 
> 
> x-sogo-message-type: calendar:invitation-reply
> 
> Isn't that mean it's send by sogo ? 
> 
> Thanks for the help
> 
> Regards.
> 
> JAS
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Re: [SOGo] Auto-reply ? Possible

2013-06-08 Thread Albert Shih
 Le 07/06/2013 ? 22:59:47-0400, Ron Scott-Adams a écrit
 Hi,

> I'm willing to bet this user has some setting in their client treating 
> calendar

Wellbecause I don't like to loose ;-) ;-)

> invites in some fashion (either automatically rejecting or accepting them.)

PossibleHe using generally AppleMail, but if it's the situation why the
mail « he » (or AppleMail) send have this header 

x-sogo-message-type: calendar:invitation-reply

Isn't that mean it's send by sogo ? 

Thanks for the help

Regards.

JAS
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Re: [SOGo] Auto-reply ? Possible

2013-06-07 Thread Ron Scott-Adams
I'm willing to bet this user has some setting in their client treating calendar 
invites in some fashion (either automatically rejecting or accepting them.)

What happens if you send this user a calendar invite and trace the emissions 
from that users account for awhile?


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On Jun 7, 2013, at 17:09 , Albert Shih  wrote:

> Le 07/06/2013 ? 10:55:59+0200, Christian Mack a écrit
> Hi,
> 
> Thanks for your answer.
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Am 2013-06-06 23:09, schrieb Albert Shih:
>>> 
>>> I've a strange report from one of my user. 
>>> 
>>> He claim he just receive some message from yahoo (not important can be any
>>> server) smtp server for unknown user. 
>>> 
>>> Meanning he send a email to this unknown user. Of course he never send this
>>> message (spam). 
>>> 
>>> First I suspect some basic spam. But when I check the header I see : 
>>> 
>>>x-sogo-message-type: calendar:invitation-reply
>>> 
>>> and indeed the message is really send from sogo.
>>> 
>>> My question is : Is it possible sogo reply AUTOMATICALLY to some message ?
>>> That's sound very strange to me but...well...I'm want to be sure. 
>>> 
>> 
>> If you use resource accounts, then yes.
>> They will automatically accept invitations, if the desired time frame is
>> not already used up by other events.
>> Accepting invitations from users outside SOGo means sending them an email.
>> 
>> That is by design, and the sole purpose of resource accounts.
>> 
> 
> Well the point is I don't use resource accounts. And more strange the first
> mail was a spam. 
> 
> What I can find in the log, 
> 
>someone on internet send a spam to my user.
> 
>sogo answer automaticaly to this spam
> 
>of course the spammer address don't exist
> 
>so the user received a return warning message say the spammer address
>don't exist.
> 
> I'm little worry about that because that's mean if it's really append, some
> spammer can use sogo as spam realy. 
> 
> Regards. 
> 
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Re: [SOGo] Auto-reply ? Possible

2013-06-07 Thread Albert Shih
 Le 07/06/2013 ? 10:55:59+0200, Christian Mack a écrit
Hi,

Thanks for your answer.

> 
> 
> Am 2013-06-06 23:09, schrieb Albert Shih:
> > 
> > I've a strange report from one of my user. 
> > 
> > He claim he just receive some message from yahoo (not important can be any
> > server) smtp server for unknown user. 
> > 
> > Meanning he send a email to this unknown user. Of course he never send this
> > message (spam). 
> > 
> > First I suspect some basic spam. But when I check the header I see : 
> > 
> > x-sogo-message-type: calendar:invitation-reply
> > 
> > and indeed the message is really send from sogo.
> > 
> > My question is : Is it possible sogo reply AUTOMATICALLY to some message ?
> > That's sound very strange to me but...well...I'm want to be sure. 
> > 
> 
> If you use resource accounts, then yes.
> They will automatically accept invitations, if the desired time frame is
> not already used up by other events.
> Accepting invitations from users outside SOGo means sending them an email.
> 
> That is by design, and the sole purpose of resource accounts.
> 

Well the point is I don't use resource accounts. And more strange the first
mail was a spam. 

What I can find in the log, 

someone on internet send a spam to my user.

sogo answer automaticaly to this spam

of course the spammer address don't exist

so the user received a return warning message say the spammer address
don't exist.

I'm little worry about that because that's mean if it's really append, some
spammer can use sogo as spam realy. 

Regards. 

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Re: [SOGo] Auto-reply ? Possible

2013-06-07 Thread Christian Mack
Hello Albert Shih


Am 2013-06-06 23:09, schrieb Albert Shih:
> 
> I've a strange report from one of my user. 
> 
> He claim he just receive some message from yahoo (not important can be any
> server) smtp server for unknown user. 
> 
> Meanning he send a email to this unknown user. Of course he never send this
> message (spam). 
> 
> First I suspect some basic spam. But when I check the header I see : 
> 
> x-sogo-message-type: calendar:invitation-reply
> 
> and indeed the message is really send from sogo.
> 
> My question is : Is it possible sogo reply AUTOMATICALLY to some message ?
> That's sound very strange to me but...well...I'm want to be sure. 
> 

If you use resource accounts, then yes.
They will automatically accept invitations, if the desired time frame is
not already used up by other events.
Accepting invitations from users outside SOGo means sending them an email.

That is by design, and the sole purpose of resource accounts.


Kind regards,
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[SOGo] Auto-reply ? Possible

2013-06-06 Thread Albert Shih
Hi 

I've a strange report from one of my user. 

He claim he just receive some message from yahoo (not important can be any
server) smtp server for unknown user. 

Meanning he send a email to this unknown user. Of course he never send this
message (spam). 

First I suspect some basic spam. But when I check the header I see : 

x-sogo-message-type: calendar:invitation-reply

and indeed the message is really send from sogo.

My question is : Is it possible sogo reply AUTOMATICALLY to some message ?
That's sound very strange to me but...well...I'm want to be sure. 

Regards.

JAS
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