Re: [SOGo] SOGo Impossible Installation

[Juan Pablo Lorier]

You where right, it was about SOGo documentation. it’s fine but incomplete. I 
agree, lots of projects as by far worst documentation, but been better than 
them shouldn’t be the aim.
I think you made no noice, just gave your point of view as everyone and that’s 
part of our community job :-)
Regards,

> El 5 abr. 2016, a las 11:29 a.m., Peter Beck (pe...@datentraeger.li) 
>  escribió:
> 
> oh, I thought it was about SOGo which is a good documentation. But as
> far as I know you are talking about Zentyal/OpenChange which I don't
> now... Sorry for the noise ;-)
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Re: [SOGo] SOGo Impossible Installation

[Peter Beck]

oh, I thought it was about SOGo which is a good documentation. But as
far as I know you are talking about Zentyal/OpenChange which I don't
now... Sorry for the noise ;-)
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Re: [SOGo] SOGo Impossible Installation

[Peter Beck]

On 04/05/2016 12:38 PM, Juan Pablo Lorier (jplor...@gmail.com) wrote:
> installation is a mess and I’d think that maybe it’s intended so you may buy 
> support. It’s not the first project to do that kind of things.

In my opinion this is quite harsh - you get something for free and
you're complaining about the documentation ? There are lot's other
projects out there with much worse (or no) documentation.

I don't think the documentation is a mess. I think it's quite straight
forward and clear. And there are lot's of other tutorials how to set up
SOGo and you can always ask here on the list - very helpful guys here.

Of course they want customers to sell support - it's how they pay their
lives. Or do you work for nothing ?

By the way:
I would reconsider the use of openchange as it seems stopped for now
(see other thread here on the list
https://lists.inverse.ca/sogo/arc/users/2016-03/msg00299.html). Starting
a new system depending on an (at least it sounds to me) abandoned
project - I wouldn't do that, but that's my opinion.

Regards
Peter
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Re[2]: [SOGo] SOGo Impossible Installation

[qm...@top-consulting.net]

>From our experience, Debian is the best OS to install OpenChange / Samba / 
>SOGo on.
Furthermore, I agree with the lack of precise documentation. It's a very 
complicated process to get going the entire OpenChange software suite. 
Personally I think that if you need professional help, you can always call upon 
commercial support from Inverse or Zentyal. 
For example some features aren't available except for the commercial edition of 
Zentyal server: take the dovecot openchange notification plugin. There is one 
page that tells you how to compile it and that's it. It's not mentioned 
anywhere that you need to setup samba as well, not to mention recompile dovecot 
to support threads in the lda binary. I spent about 2 weeks figuring this stuff 
out.
Maybe that's why it's only available in their commercial editions.

On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 08:42 AM, Juan Pablo Lorier  wrote:
Hi,

I’ve been where you stand, I tried to install SOGo for the first time back at 
2.7 version. There the documentation was even worse and there were cross 
dependencies like “if you don’t use samba4 you can’t connect outlook via 
openchange”, now I don’t see that kind of limitation so I’m trying on Centos 7 
with FreeIPA as Auth, you may use either openldap or freeipa and get rid of the 
samba dependency (don’t know if you need it for openchange).
I’ll open another thread for my install as SOGo si not starting wither logging 
anything even in debug mode… so yes installation is a mess and I’d think that 
maybe it’s intended so you may buy support. It’s not the first project to do 
that kind of things.
You may also use iRedMail to setup, but in my case, I don’t want to use another 
software with a different stack just to install SOGo.
Regards

El 5 abr. 2016, a las 1:01 a.m., blueb...@gmail.com (mailto:blueb...@gmail.com) 
 escribió:

I have literally spent days with this. I have been trying to install SOGo on
CentOS 7 with OpenChange 2.3 and Samba 4.

I found out that with EnterpriseSamba you can get v4.2 or older (I believe) as
a free download and install and they provide you the key. So I finally made it
through an installation that has samba-tool and got it set up.

Next problem is to get OpenChange 2.3 installed but it only works with Samba
4.1.18 and the SerNet guys have 4.1.23 on their site not 4.1.18 (arrrgggh). So
I can't get Samba4 installed on CentOS 7. Would I be accurate in saying SOGo
isn't supported on CentOS 7?

Now I know this isn't a direct SOGo question but it does relate I think.

Has anyone got this setup I'm describing going? I would like to have CentOS 7,
Samba 4 and OpenChange 2.3 working with SOGo 3.0.2.

If what I ask is an impossible dream, then what has to give? What should I
step down in versions? I don't really need an AD environment. Or do I? I
really just want SOGo so I'm not sure I even need AD. Nothing about requiring
an AD environment in any documentation or maybe I've missed it.

I've got to say. SOGo really kicks azz when you look at what it can do. But
the documentation needs real work.
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Re: [SOGo] SOGo Impossible Installation

[Azam Premji]

Hi Ludovic,

It looks like I'll need to move to Debian or Ubuntu. 

Hope there are plans for a more compatible version and better documentation. 

Back on the install SOGo horse for a few days...


Azam

> On Apr 5, 2016, at 6:42 AM, Ludovic Marcotte (lmarco...@inverse.ca) 
>  wrote:
> 
>> On 2016-04-05 00:01, blueb...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Next problem is to get OpenChange 2.3 installed but it only works with Samba
>> 4.1.18 and the SerNet guys have 4.1.23 on their site not 4.1.18 (arrrgggh). 
>> So
>> I can't get Samba4 installed on CentOS 7. Would I be accurate in saying SOGo
>> isn't supported on CentOS 7?
> SOGo is supported on CentOS 7 - just not with OpenChange. The only 
> distributions we do support with OpenChange are Debian 8 and Ubuntu Trusty - 
> this is stated in the documentation.
> 
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Re: [SOGo] SOGo Impossible Installation

[Quique]

Hello,

OpenChange is loaded as a library/endpoint/whatever into the samba daemon
to reply MAPI requests so in order to use MAPI/Outlook Anywhere with
Outlook you must install Samba with OpenChange.

Best,

On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 2:41 PM Juan Pablo Lorier  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I’ve been where you stand, I tried to install SOGo for the first time back
> at 2.7 version. There the documentation was even worse and there were cross
> dependencies like “if you don’t use samba4 you can’t connect outlook via
> openchange”, now I don’t see that kind of limitation so I’m trying on
> Centos 7 with FreeIPA as Auth, you may use either openldap or freeipa and
> get rid of the samba dependency (don’t know if you need it for openchange).
> I’ll open another thread for my install as SOGo si not starting wither
> logging anything even in debug mode… so yes installation is a mess and I’d
> think that maybe it’s intended so you may buy support. It’s not the first
> project to do that kind of things.
> You may also use iRedMail to setup, but in my case, I don’t want to use
> another software with a different stack just to install SOGo.
> Regards
>
>
> > El 5 abr. 2016, a las 1:01 a.m., blueb...@gmail.com 
> escribió:
> >
> > I have literally spent days with this. I have been trying to install
> SOGo on
> > CentOS 7 with OpenChange 2.3 and Samba 4.
> >
> > I found out that with EnterpriseSamba you can get v4.2 or older (I
> believe) as
> > a free download and install and they provide you the key. So I finally
> made it
> > through an installation that has samba-tool and got it set up.
> >
> > Next problem is to get OpenChange 2.3 installed but it only works with
> Samba
> > 4.1.18 and the SerNet guys have 4.1.23 on their site not 4.1.18
> (arrrgggh). So
> > I can't get Samba4 installed on CentOS 7. Would I be accurate in saying
> SOGo
> > isn't supported on CentOS 7?
> >
> > Now I know this isn't a direct SOGo question but it does relate I think.
> >
> > Has anyone got this setup I'm describing going? I would like to have
> CentOS 7,
> > Samba 4 and OpenChange 2.3 working with SOGo 3.0.2.
> >
> > If what I ask is an impossible dream, then what has to give? What should
> I
> > step down in versions? I don't really need an AD environment. Or do I? I
> > really just want SOGo so I'm not sure I even need AD. Nothing about
> requiring
> > an AD environment in any documentation or maybe I've missed it.
> >
> > I've got to say. SOGo really kicks azz when you look at what it can do.
> But
> > the documentation needs real work.
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Re: [SOGo] SOGo Impossible Installation

[Juan Pablo Lorier]

Hi,

I’ve been where you stand, I tried to install SOGo for the first time back at 
2.7 version. There the documentation was even worse and there were cross 
dependencies like “if you don’t use samba4 you can’t connect outlook via 
openchange”, now I don’t see that kind of limitation so I’m trying on Centos 7 
with FreeIPA as Auth, you may use either openldap or freeipa and get rid of the 
samba dependency (don’t know if you need it for openchange).
I’ll open another thread for my install as SOGo si not starting wither logging 
anything even in debug mode… so yes installation is a mess and I’d think that 
maybe it’s intended so you may buy support. It’s not the first project to do 
that kind of things.
You may also use iRedMail to setup, but in my case, I don’t want to use another 
software with a different stack just to install SOGo.
Regards


> El 5 abr. 2016, a las 1:01 a.m., blueb...@gmail.com  escribió:
> 
> I have literally spent days with this. I have been trying to install SOGo on
> CentOS 7 with OpenChange 2.3 and Samba 4.
> 
> I found out that with EnterpriseSamba you can get v4.2 or older (I believe) as
> a free download and install and they provide you the key. So I finally made it
> through an installation that has samba-tool and got it set up.
> 
> Next problem is to get OpenChange 2.3 installed but it only works with Samba
> 4.1.18 and the SerNet guys have 4.1.23 on their site not 4.1.18 (arrrgggh). So
> I can't get Samba4 installed on CentOS 7. Would I be accurate in saying SOGo
> isn't supported on CentOS 7?
> 
> Now I know this isn't a direct SOGo question but it does relate I think.
> 
> Has anyone got this setup I'm describing going? I would like to have CentOS 7,
> Samba 4 and OpenChange 2.3 working with SOGo 3.0.2.
> 
> If what I ask is an impossible dream, then what has to give? What should I
> step down in versions? I don't really need an AD environment. Or do I? I
> really just want SOGo so I'm not sure I even need AD. Nothing about requiring
> an AD environment in any documentation or maybe I've missed it.
> 
> I've got to say. SOGo really kicks azz when you look at what it can do. But
> the documentation needs real work.
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Re: [SOGo] SOGo Impossible Installation

[Ludovic Marcotte]

On 2016-04-05 00:01, blueb...@gmail.com wrote:

Next problem is to get OpenChange 2.3 installed but it only works with Samba
4.1.18 and the SerNet guys have 4.1.23 on their site not 4.1.18 (arrrgggh). So
I can't get Samba4 installed on CentOS 7. Would I be accurate in saying SOGo
isn't supported on CentOS 7?
SOGo is supported on CentOS 7 - just not with OpenChange. The only 
distributions we do support with OpenChange are Debian 8 and Ubuntu 
Trusty - this is stated in the documentation.


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[SOGo] SOGo Impossible Installation

[blueb...@gmail.com]

I have literally spent days with this. I have been trying to install SOGo on
CentOS 7 with OpenChange 2.3 and Samba 4.

I found out that with EnterpriseSamba you can get v4.2 or older (I believe) as
a free download and install and they provide you the key. So I finally made it
through an installation that has samba-tool and got it set up.

Next problem is to get OpenChange 2.3 installed but it only works with Samba
4.1.18 and the SerNet guys have 4.1.23 on their site not 4.1.18 (arrrgggh). So
I can't get Samba4 installed on CentOS 7. Would I be accurate in saying SOGo
isn't supported on CentOS 7?

Now I know this isn't a direct SOGo question but it does relate I think.

Has anyone got this setup I'm describing going? I would like to have CentOS 7,
Samba 4 and OpenChange 2.3 working with SOGo 3.0.2.

If what I ask is an impossible dream, then what has to give? What should I
step down in versions? I don't really need an AD environment. Or do I? I
really just want SOGo so I'm not sure I even need AD. Nothing about requiring
an AD environment in any documentation or maybe I've missed it.

I've got to say. SOGo really kicks azz when you look at what it can do. But
the documentation needs real work.
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