Re: [SOGo] No Reply-to address in SOGo 2.0.4?

2014-09-16 Thread Marcel Waldvogel
Allen,

there is no IMAP interaction for that. It does not grant any access rights to 
the IMAP folders; if desired, those need to be granted separately. It only 
tells SOGo that this is an alternate mail address.

The information is stored in the SOGo database. Look for DelegateFrom (receiver 
side) and DelegateTo (grantor side). „sogo-tool backup“ is great for looking 
into this.

-Marcel

Am 16.09.2014 um 01:16 schrieb Allen Chen ac...@harbourfrontcentre.com:

 Hi Marcel,
 
 
 I followed your steps, and it works. All accounts are in the same domain.
 But one user doesn't work.
 This is what I did(from SOGo web interface):
 1. login as myid
 2. right-clicking on the top-level mailbox, and choose Delegation...
 3. I added 10 users from user1 to user10
 Question: Is the Delegation information stored in SOGo DB or imap server?
 
 4. from another computer, I login as user1, and reply an email, the From: 
 drop-down list gives me the option. It works.
 5. I login as user2, user3... user8, user10 all work.
 5. the problem is: only user9, its From: drop-down list only shows its own 
 email address.
 Do you have any clue to fix this? Why user9 doesn't work!  where is the 
 Delegation saved?
 
 Thanks,
 Allen
 
 On 9/15/2014 11:46 AM, Marcel Waldvogel wrote:
 Allen,
 
 is the other account also in the same domain? Then the other account can 
 delegate its mail address to you by right-clicking on the top-level mailbox 
 (the parent of the Inbox).
 
 -Marcel
 
 Am 12.09.2014 um 15:12 schrieb Allen Chen ac...@harbourfrontcentre.com:
 
 On 9/11/2014 3:17 PM, Marcel Waldvogel wrote:
 Allen,
 
 I’m running 2.2.8, which I recommend you to update to. In any case, there 
 is a Reply-To setting in Settings→IMAP accounts and has been there for 
 ages, so I guess it should be in 2.0.4 as well.
 
 But PLEASE, do not do what most of the Thunderbird are tempted to do, 
 because of the prominent placement of the Reply-To address in the setup 
 screen: PLEASE do NOT set your Reply-To address to your From address! This 
 causes a lot of things to break and is completely unnecessary.
 
 Alles Gute,
 -Marcel
 
 Am 11.09.2014 um 18:56 schrieb Allen Chen ac...@harbourfrontcentre.com:
 
 Hi there,
 
 I am using SOGo 2.0.4. In the web interface, when I reply an email, there 
 is no option to set Reply-to address.
 But in Thunderbird, there is an option to change Reply-to address.
 
 How can I change Reply-to address in the web interface?
 
 
 Thanks,
 Allen
 
 
 -- 
 users@sogo.nu
 https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
 
 Hi Marcel,
 
 Thank you for your help. I found the option from the settings. I am not 
 gonna change it because I don't want to do any funny things on a production 
 server.
 After some tests, I have another solution. I just append an email address, 
 which I want to be the Reply-to:, to the mail attribute in the ldap 
 server. So when I reply   an email,
 I can choose it from the From: drop-down list. This is what I want.
 
 
 Allen
  
 
 



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Re: [SOGo] No Reply-to address in SOGo 2.0.4?

2014-09-16 Thread Allen Chen

Hi Marcel,

I dumped the user data using sogo tool, and found that there is some 
kind of delay write to sogo db.
After a couple of add,delete,dump, finally I found it show up in the 
dump backup file. then it works.


Thank you for your help.
Allen

On 9/16/2014 2:33 AM, Marcel Waldvogel wrote:

Allen,

there is no IMAP interaction for that. It does not grant any access 
rights to the IMAP folders; if desired, those need to be granted 
separately. It only tells SOGo that this is an alternate mail address.


The information is stored in the SOGo database. Look for DelegateFrom 
(receiver side) and DelegateTo (grantor side). „sogo-tool backup“ is 
great for looking into this.


-Marcel

Am 16.09.2014 um 01:16 schrieb Allen Chen 
ac...@harbourfrontcentre.com mailto:ac...@harbourfrontcentre.com:



Hi Marcel,


I followed your steps, and it works. All accounts are in the same domain.
But one user doesn't work.
This is what I did(from SOGo web interface):
1. login as myid
2. right-clicking on the top-level mailbox, and choose Delegation...
3. I added 10 users from user1 to user10
Question: Is the Delegation information stored in SOGo DB or imap 
server?


4. from another computer, I login as user1, and reply an email, the 
From: drop-down list gives me the option. It works.

5. I login as user2, user3... user8, user10 all work.
5. the problem is: only user9, its From: drop-down list only shows 
its own email address.
Do you have any clue to fix this? Why user9 doesn't work!  where is 
the Delegation saved?


Thanks,
Allen

On 9/15/2014 11:46 AM, Marcel Waldvogel wrote:

Allen,

is the other account also in the same domain? Then the other account 
can delegate its mail address to you by right-clicking on the 
top-level mailbox (the parent of the Inbox).


-Marcel

Am 12.09.2014 um 15:12 schrieb Allen Chen 
ac...@harbourfrontcentre.com mailto:ac...@harbourfrontcentre.com:



On 9/11/2014 3:17 PM, Marcel Waldvogel wrote:

Allen,

I’m running 2.2.8, which I recommend you to update to. In any 
case, there is a Reply-To setting in Settings→IMAP accounts and 
has been there for ages, so I guess it should be in 2.0.4 as well.


But PLEASE, do not do what most of the Thunderbird are tempted to 
do, because of the prominent placement of the Reply-To address in 
the setup screen: PLEASE do NOT set your Reply-To address to your 
From address! This causes a lot of things to break and is 
completely unnecessary.


Alles Gute,
-Marcel

Am 11.09.2014 um 18:56 schrieb Allen Chen 
ac...@harbourfrontcentre.com mailto:ac...@harbourfrontcentre.com:



Hi there,

I am using SOGo 2.0.4. In the web interface, when I reply an 
email, there is no option to set Reply-to address.

But in Thunderbird, there is an option to change Reply-to address.

How can I change Reply-to address in the web interface?


Thanks,
Allen


--
users@sogo.nu mailto:users@sogo.nu
https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists



Hi Marcel,

Thank you for your help. I found the option from the settings. I am 
not gonna change it because I don't want to do any funny things on 
a production server.
After some tests, I have another solution. I just append an email 
address, which I want to be the Reply-to:, to the mail 
attribute in the ldap server. So when I reply an email,

I can choose it from the From: drop-down list. This is what I want.


Allen










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https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists

Re: [SOGo] No Reply-to address in SOGo 2.0.4?

2014-09-15 Thread Marcel Waldvogel
John,

the two main problems that I run into for „default Reply-To: to from“ are:

1. The Reply-To: address does not come with a full name. The reply thus does 
not have the full name, which (a) makes the mail index less readable and (b) 
breaks searching for the user by name (unless it uses first.l...@doma.in)

2. When sent to a mailing list, replying to such a mail behaves differently 
from a „normal“ mail sent through the same mailing list, depending on mailing 
list configuration („reply to list“) and implementation (whether it merges, 
replaces, or ignores sender and list reply-to settings).

To make this message on-topic for this mailinglist :-) and express my gratitude 
to Inverse (we should do that more often): I am very happy that SOGo provides a 
Reply-To option for when it is necessary, but novice users do not inadvertently 
stumble upon it.

-Marcel

Am 12.09.2014 um 08:02 schrieb John Kaufmann kaufm...@nb.net:
 In message of 2014-0911 15:17 -0500, Marcel Waldvogel wrote:
 
 ... PLEASE, do not do what most of the Thunderbird are tempted to do,
 because of the prominent placement of the Reply-To address in the setup
 screen: PLEASE do NOT set your Reply-To address to your From address!
 This causes a lot of things to break and is completely unnecessary.
 
 Marcel, I am trying to understand this warning. While I completely agree that 
 it's daft [completely unnecessary is too kind] to set a Reply-To to the 
 From address, what does that break?
 
 John
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 users@sogo.nu
 https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists



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Re: [SOGo] No Reply-to address in SOGo 2.0.4?

2014-09-15 Thread Marcel Waldvogel
Allen,

is the other account also in the same domain? Then the other account can 
delegate its mail address to you by right-clicking on the top-level mailbox 
(the parent of the Inbox).

-Marcel

Am 12.09.2014 um 15:12 schrieb Allen Chen ac...@harbourfrontcentre.com:

 On 9/11/2014 3:17 PM, Marcel Waldvogel wrote:
 Allen,
 
 I’m running 2.2.8, which I recommend you to update to. In any case, there is 
 a Reply-To setting in Settings→IMAP accounts and has been there for ages, so 
 I guess it should be in 2.0.4 as well.
 
 But PLEASE, do not do what most of the Thunderbird are tempted to do, 
 because of the prominent placement of the Reply-To address in the setup 
 screen: PLEASE do NOT set your Reply-To address to your From address! This 
 causes a lot of things to break and is completely unnecessary.
 
 Alles Gute,
 -Marcel
 
 Am 11.09.2014 um 18:56 schrieb Allen Chen ac...@harbourfrontcentre.com:
 
 Hi there,
 
 I am using SOGo 2.0.4. In the web interface, when I reply an email, there 
 is no option to set Reply-to address.
 But in Thunderbird, there is an option to change Reply-to address.
 
 How can I change Reply-to address in the web interface?
 
 
 Thanks,
 Allen
 
 
 -- 
 users@sogo.nu
 https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
 
 Hi Marcel,
 
 Thank you for your help. I found the option from the settings. I am not gonna 
 change it because I don't want to do any funny things on a production server.
 After some tests, I have another solution. I just append an email address, 
 which I want to be the Reply-to:, to the mail attribute in the ldap 
 server. So when I reply an email,
 I can choose it from the From: drop-down list. This is what I want.
 
 
 Allen
  



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Re: [SOGo] No Reply-to address in SOGo 2.0.4?

2014-09-15 Thread Allen Chen

Hi Marcel,


I followed your steps, and it works. All accounts are in the same domain.
But one user doesn't work.
This is what I did(from SOGo web interface):
1. login as myid
2. right-clicking on the top-level mailbox, and choose Delegation...
3. I added 10 users from user1 to user10
Question: Is the Delegation information stored in SOGo DB or imap server?

4. from another computer, I login as user1, and reply an email, the 
From: drop-down list gives me the option. It works.

5. I login as user2, user3... user8, user10 all work.
5. the problem is: only user9, its From: drop-down list only shows its 
own email address.
Do you have any clue to fix this? Why user9 doesn't work!  where is the 
Delegation saved?


Thanks,
Allen

On 9/15/2014 11:46 AM, Marcel Waldvogel wrote:

Allen,

is the other account also in the same domain? Then the other account 
can delegate its mail address to you by right-clicking on the 
top-level mailbox (the parent of the Inbox).


-Marcel

Am 12.09.2014 um 15:12 schrieb Allen Chen 
ac...@harbourfrontcentre.com mailto:ac...@harbourfrontcentre.com:



On 9/11/2014 3:17 PM, Marcel Waldvogel wrote:

Allen,

I’m running 2.2.8, which I recommend you to update to. In any case, 
there is a Reply-To setting in Settings→IMAP accounts and has been 
there for ages, so I guess it should be in 2.0.4 as well.


But PLEASE, do not do what most of the Thunderbird are tempted to 
do, because of the prominent placement of the Reply-To address in 
the setup screen: PLEASE do NOT set your Reply-To address to your 
From address! This causes a lot of things to break and is completely 
unnecessary.


Alles Gute,
-Marcel

Am 11.09.2014 um 18:56 schrieb Allen Chen 
ac...@harbourfrontcentre.com mailto:ac...@harbourfrontcentre.com:



Hi there,

I am using SOGo 2.0.4. In the web interface, when I reply an email, 
there is no option to set Reply-to address.

But in Thunderbird, there is an option to change Reply-to address.

How can I change Reply-to address in the web interface?


Thanks,
Allen


--
users@sogo.nu mailto:users@sogo.nu
https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists



Hi Marcel,

Thank you for your help. I found the option from the settings. I am 
not gonna change it because I don't want to do any funny things on a 
production server.
After some tests, I have another solution. I just append an email 
address, which I want to be the Reply-to:, to the mail attribute 
in the ldap server. So when I reply an email,

I can choose it from the From: drop-down list. This is what I want.


Allen






--
users@sogo.nu
https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists

Re: [SOGo] No Reply-to address in SOGo 2.0.4?

2014-09-12 Thread John Kaufmann

In message of 2014-0911 15:17 -0500, Marcel Waldvogel wrote:


... PLEASE, do not do what most of the Thunderbird are tempted to do,
because of the prominent placement of the Reply-To address in the setup
screen: PLEASE do NOT set your Reply-To address to your From address!
This causes a lot of things to break and is completely unnecessary.


Marcel, I am trying to understand this warning. While I completely agree 
that it's daft [completely unnecessary is too kind] to set a Reply-To to 
the From address, what does that break?


John
--
users@sogo.nu
https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists


Re: [SOGo] No Reply-to address in SOGo 2.0.4?

2014-09-12 Thread Allen Chen

On 9/11/2014 3:17 PM, Marcel Waldvogel wrote:

Allen,

I’m running 2.2.8, which I recommend you to update to. In any case, 
there is a Reply-To setting in Settings→IMAP accounts and has been 
there for ages, so I guess it should be in 2.0.4 as well.


But PLEASE, do not do what most of the Thunderbird are tempted to do, 
because of the prominent placement of the Reply-To address in the 
setup screen: PLEASE do NOT set your Reply-To address to your From 
address! This causes a lot of things to break and is completely 
unnecessary.


Alles Gute,
-Marcel

Am 11.09.2014 um 18:56 schrieb Allen Chen 
ac...@harbourfrontcentre.com mailto:ac...@harbourfrontcentre.com:



Hi there,

I am using SOGo 2.0.4. In the web interface, when I reply an email, 
there is no option to set Reply-to address.

But in Thunderbird, there is an option to change Reply-to address.

How can I change Reply-to address in the web interface?


Thanks,
Allen


--
users@sogo.nu mailto:users@sogo.nu
https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists



Hi Marcel,

Thank you for your help. I found the option from the settings. I am not 
gonna change it because I don't want to do any funny things on a 
production server.
After some tests, I have another solution. I just append an email 
address, which I want to be the Reply-to:, to the mail attribute in 
the ldap server. So when I reply an email,

I can choose it from the From: drop-down list. This is what I want.


Allen


--
users@sogo.nu
https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists

Re: [SOGo] No Reply-to address in SOGo 2.0.4?

2014-09-11 Thread Marcel Waldvogel
Allen,

I’m running 2.2.8, which I recommend you to update to. In any case, there is a 
Reply-To setting in Settings→IMAP accounts and has been there for ages, so I 
guess it should be in 2.0.4 as well.

But PLEASE, do not do what most of the Thunderbird are tempted to do, because 
of the prominent placement of the Reply-To address in the setup screen: PLEASE 
do NOT set your Reply-To address to your From address! This causes a lot of 
things to break and is completely unnecessary.

Alles Gute,
-Marcel

Am 11.09.2014 um 18:56 schrieb Allen Chen ac...@harbourfrontcentre.com:

 Hi there,
 
 I am using SOGo 2.0.4. In the web interface, when I reply an email, there is 
 no option to set Reply-to address.
 But in Thunderbird, there is an option to change Reply-to address.
 
 How can I change Reply-to address in the web interface?
 
 
 Thanks,
 Allen
 
 
 -- 
 users@sogo.nu
 https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists



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