Re: Any of you able to block this SPAM?

2006-05-09 Thread Michael Monnerie
On Montag, 8. Mai 2006 10:34 Trevor wrote:
 I've been receiving a number of these emails below.
 Are any of you getting them and having any luck blocking them?

Yes, your message made:

X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=7.945 tagged_above=-999 required=5
 tests=HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_08=3.126, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, 
HTML_TITLE_EMPTY=0.214,
 INVALID_TZ_GMT=1.042, RELAY_AT=0.01, SARE_GIF_ATTACH=0.75,
 SARE_GIF_STOX=1.66, SPF_FAIL=1.142

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SPF whitelisting from id for all sub domains

2006-05-09 Thread Ramprasad
Hi,
  I am using spamassassin with postfix on Linux. I am using
def_whitelist_from_spf rules for whitlelisting popular newsletter mails 

Some domains send mails with from id as a subdomain of the main domain.
for eg 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

How do I whitelist such ids ( the subdomain does not have a SPF
record ) 


Thanks
Ram




Re: Latest sa-stats from last week

2006-05-09 Thread Michael Monnerie
On Montag, 8. Mai 2006 21:52 Mike Jackson wrote:
 DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE
 but to have your #1 *ham* rule be one
 that's supposed to identify *spam* doesn't speak well for the rule

Isn't the intention of RFC_ABUSE to list any site that abuses RFC? So 
you can't really believe that it wants to identify SPAM, but rather 
domains which do not play within the rules.

For the same reason, SPF cannot be used to identify SPAM or HAM. It's to 
see if a message is forged, nothing more. Of course, it hits for SPAM 
trying to forge messages, so that way it helps a lot...

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SoC student application deadline extended

2006-05-09 Thread Justin Mason
http://google-code-updates.blogspot.com/2006/05/soc-student-application-deadline-has.html

Monday, May 08, 2006
SoC Student Application Deadline Has Been Extended
We've decided to extend the Summer of Code 2006 student application
deadline to 11:00 PDT on Tuesday, May 9th. Thanks to all of you who've
applied and for those who haven't yet, keep those applications coming!

posted by Leslie Hawthorn at 3:22 PM  


RE: Latest sa-stats from last week

2006-05-09 Thread Bowie Bailey
jdow wrote:
 From: Bowie Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
   wrote:
 TOP SPAM RULES FIRED
 
 RANKRULE NAME   COUNT %OFRULES
%OFMAIL %OFSPAM  %OFHAM
 
 1 URIBL_BLACK 1633977.09 
 29.11   78.050.50

Nice.

How does that Queen song go??  We... are...  ;)
   
   LOL!  Congrats!
  
  I'll second that!  I think the network tests are taking over...
  
  TOP SPAM RULES FIRED
  
  RANKRULE NAMECOUNT %OFRULES %OFMAIL %OFSPAM %OFHAM
  
   6  BAYES_99 26754 4.19   44.49   67.00  3.06
 
 Holy spoo! Bayes can do MUCH better than that!
 {O.O}

I'm sure it can, but I've got per-user Bayes and most of my users
don't bother to train it.

-- 
Bowie


Re: Latest sa-stats from last week

2006-05-09 Thread Michael Monnerie
On Dienstag, 9. Mai 2006 16:18 Bowie Bailey wrote:
 I've got per-user Bayes and most of my users
 don't bother to train it.

Another reason for site-wide bayes, I'd say.

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RE: spams regarding financing of residence and GeoCities

2006-05-09 Thread Chris Santerre
Title: RE: spams regarding financing of residence and GeoCities






 I heard some people opine that GeoCities is doing a lot to combat
 spam.
 
 I received a recent spam about financing of residence that sent me
 to a Geocities page. 
 
 Just how difficult would it be to block similar kinds of pages? 
 
 Not too difficult if they wanted to. So, I am not sure if they are
 really trying to stay on top of the game. 


I've screamed about this various time on various lists. It ABSOLUTELY can be brought under control. And they are NOT doing enough to stop it. 

Writing local rules is only a bandaid. 


Chris Santerre
SysAdmin and SARE/URIBL ninja
http://www.uribl.com
http://www.rulesemporium.com





My only problem with URIBL_BLACK

2006-05-09 Thread qqqq
I probably get a FP about once a week as somebody will opt in a mailing list 
and a listed URL is in
the mailing.

When I get these complaints, I exempt the mailing list from the procmail rules 
so that the mailing
list doesn't get scanned by SA.

Just my 2 cents.




|  This isn't to say that URIBL_BLACK isn't useful, or that you
|  guys aren't doing a good job. However, this is good evidence
|  you guys are doing great, but you do still have some areas
|  that could use improvement.
| 
|
| thanks, i think. ;)
|
| our fp ratio for ham has always been hanging at that level.  i think thats a
| good sign.  it means the data in our zones that are causing those ham hits
| have not changed, and no one has notified us that they need removal.
| doesnt worry me a bit.
|
| we welcome your delist requests if you actually find a FP (that we can agree
| on) on black.uribl.com.  :)
|
| d
|
|



RE: Latest sa-stats from last week

2006-05-09 Thread Bowie Bailey
Michael Monnerie wrote:
 On Dienstag, 9. Mai 2006 16:18 Bowie Bailey wrote:
  I've got per-user Bayes and most of my users
  don't bother to train it.
 
 Another reason for site-wide bayes, I'd say.

I've considered that, but it won't work in our setup.  This box scans
our internal email as well as all of our customer's email.  Since we
are in an entirely different line of business from our customers, what
we consider to be ham and spam will be quite different from theirs.
If I could train it on both sets, it might work, but I don't have
access to any of their emails for training.

Also, I really prefer a per-user bayes for our internal email since
there are various accounts that get a specific type of ham and work
very well with Bayes.

-- 
Bowie


Re: Latest sa-stats from last week

2006-05-09 Thread qqqq
|  Holy spoo! Bayes can do MUCH better than that!
|  {O.O}
|
| I'm sure it can, but I've got per-user Bayes and most of my users
| don't bother to train it.
|

I'm in a similar situation as Bowie.  I had to turn of Bayes as mail that was 
obviously spam was
getting a Bayes_0 pulling the # back down under the threshold.





RE: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK

2006-05-09 Thread Randal, Phil
But.

There are some spammers who run subscribe to mailing lists.

I got spam at home the other day from ediets.co.uk, for example.

I call this stuff subscription spam and would block most of it anyway.

Cheers,

Phil


Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK  

 -Original Message-
 From:  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 08 May 2006 22:38
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; users@spamassassin.apache.org
 Subject: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK
 
 I probably get a FP about once a week as somebody will opt in 
 a mailing list and a listed URL is in
 the mailing.
 
 When I get these complaints, I exempt the mailing list from 
 the procmail rules so that the mailing
 list doesn't get scanned by SA.
 
 Just my 2 cents.
 
 
 
 
 |  This isn't to say that URIBL_BLACK isn't useful, or that you
 |  guys aren't doing a good job. However, this is good evidence
 |  you guys are doing great, but you do still have some areas
 |  that could use improvement.
 | 
 |
 | thanks, i think. ;)
 |
 | our fp ratio for ham has always been hanging at that level. 
  i think thats a
 | good sign.  it means the data in our zones that are causing 
 those ham hits
 | have not changed, and no one has notified us that they need removal.
 | doesnt worry me a bit.
 |
 | we welcome your delist requests if you actually find a FP 
 (that we can agree
 | on) on black.uribl.com.  :)
 |
 | d
 |
 |
 


RE: Latest sa-stats from last week

2006-05-09 Thread Dallas L. Engelken
 -Original Message-
 From:  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:27
 To: Bowie Bailey; users@spamassassin.apache.org
 Subject: Re: Latest sa-stats from last week
 
 |  Holy spoo! Bayes can do MUCH better than that!
 |  {O.O}
 |
 | I'm sure it can, but I've got per-user Bayes and most of my users 
 | don't bother to train it.
 |
 
 I'm in a similar situation as Bowie.  I had to turn of Bayes 
 as mail that was obviously spam was getting a Bayes_0 pulling 
 the # back down under the threshold.
 

so why not just score BAYES_00, BAYES_20, etc all at at 0... and keep
BAYES_99, BAYES_95, etc scoring what they score.  if you trust its spam
accuracy but not its ham accuracy, that would be the logical way to go i
would say?

d


Re: Latest sa-stats from last week

2006-05-09 Thread qqqq
|  I'm in a similar situation as Bowie.  I had to turn of Bayes 
|  as mail that was obviously spam was getting a Bayes_0 pulling 
|  the # back down under the threshold.
|  
| 
| so why not just score BAYES_00, BAYES_20, etc all at at 0... and keep
| BAYES_99, BAYES_95, etc scoring what they score.  if you trust its spam
| accuracy but not its ham accuracy, that would be the logical way to go i
| would say?


Hmm...good point.

I think I'll try that.  

Smack on head



Re: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK

2006-05-09 Thread qqqq
| But.
| 
| There are some spammers who run subscribe to mailing lists.
| 
| I got spam at home the other day from ediets.co.uk, for example.
| 
| I call this stuff subscription spam and would block most of it anyway.
| 
| Cheers,
| 
| Phil

Easier said than done when you have a paying customer who wants this specific 
mailing.


[no subject]

2006-05-09 Thread Bowie Bailey
Does anyone know if the AuthCourier.pm module that is described on the
page linked below works with SA 3.1.1?

http://da.andaka.org/Doku/courier-spamassassin.html

--
Bowie


Re: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK

2006-05-09 Thread Jay Lee

 wrote:

| But.
| 
| There are some spammers who run subscribe to mailing lists.
| 
| I got spam at home the other day from ediets.co.uk, for example.
| 
| I call this stuff subscription spam and would block most of it anyway.
| 
| Cheers,
| 
| Phil


Easier said than done when you have a paying customer who wants this specific 
mailing.
  
Have you tried lowering the score of the spamassassin rules that are 
getting hit?


Jay


RE: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK

2006-05-09 Thread Chris Santerre
Title: RE: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK






 | But.
 | 
 | There are some spammers who run subscribe to mailing lists.
 | 
 | I got spam at home the other day from ediets.co.uk, for example.
 | 
 | I call this stuff subscription spam and would block most 
 of it anyway.
 | 
 | Cheers,
 | 
 | Phil
 
 Easier said than done when you have a paying customer who 
 wants this specific mailing.


Voluntary Human Shileds. They should find another provider, as the needs of the many outweight the needs of the few. 


--Chris 





RE: Latest sa-stats from last week

2006-05-09 Thread Chris Santerre
Title: RE: Latest sa-stats from last week






 |  I'm in a similar situation as Bowie. I had to turn of Bayes 
 |  as mail that was obviously spam was getting a Bayes_0 pulling 
 |  the # back down under the threshold.
 |  
 | 
 | so why not just score BAYES_00, BAYES_20, etc all at at 
 0... and keep
 | BAYES_99, BAYES_95, etc scoring what they score. if you 
 trust its spam
 | accuracy but not its ham accuracy, that would be the 
 logical way to go i
 | would say?
 
 
 Hmm...good point.
 
 I think I'll try that. 
 
 Smack on head
 


At least you got to smack your own head. Dallas usually just sneaks up on me and *SMACK*. And he don't have those delicate little balarena hands! He calls it his D'man sledgehammer fist of fury! To this day, I still can't remember anything from 1988. I'm told I'm not missing much. 

--Chris 





Re: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK

2006-05-09 Thread qqqq
| 
|  Easier said than done when you have a paying customer who wants this 
specific mailing.
| 
| Have you tried lowering the score of the spamassassin rules that are
| getting hit?
|
| Jay


I'll look at a couple of the examples and see what else is firing.  I may have 
to tune URI_BLACK
down a tad.  I'll let you know.





RE: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK

2006-05-09 Thread Dallas L. Engelken
 -Original Message-
 From:  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:44
 To: Jay Lee
 Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org
 Subject: Re: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK
 
 | 
 |  Easier said than done when you have a paying customer who 
 wants this specific mailing.
 | 
 | Have you tried lowering the score of the spamassassin rules 
 that are 
 | getting hit?
 |
 | Jay
 
 
 I'll look at a couple of the examples and see what else is 
 firing.  I may have to tune URI_BLACK down a tad.  I'll let you know.
 

if you could, please submit these.  they may be good candidates for
moving to grey if nothing else.
d


SPAM: Tangled web of fun....

2006-05-09 Thread Chris Santerre
Title: SPAM: Tangled web of fun





Alright, so I'm eating lunch and catching up on my sports car forum, where a buddy posts about a possible scam from selling something on craigslist. He gets an email (I don't have the headers.) supposedly from the USPS:

I'm sniping a lot of useless info out.bear with me, this is interesting...



From: United States Postal Service [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 


Dear x,
Congratulations! The order placed by the buyer of your item: Mrs.  to have a United States Postal Service branded Money OrderSM $xxx:00 USD sent to you as payment for the item: xx has been successfully processed and has consequently been APPROVED. The financial details of the transaction are stated below:

*snip*


===
***ATTENTION***
The order has been APPROVED, you CAN NOW ship the merchandise to the buyer's shipping address. You are expected to make the shipment within 48 hours of recieving this Payment Confirmation Notification and get to our Costumer/Technical Dept. with the tracking number for Shipment Verification via: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The Money OrderSM will NOT be dispatched or get to your resident until the shipment has been verified. This measure is taken in order to protect both seller and buyer interests and to reduce the occurrence of fraudulent activities.

blah blah blah. ship here:


238 S 8th St.
Blair, NE, 68008 


Ok, I figure I'll help him, its lunch and I'm boredObviously USPS isn't in the escrow business. 


accountant.com
Gerald Gorman
33 Knightsbridge Rd.
Piscataway, NJ 08854
US
Phone: 9086960929


Meh...not much to go onGorman is a squatter???


Blair Address comes back as...
No Frills Supermarket
238 S 8th St
Blair, NE 68008-2410
Phone: (402) 426-4757


1999 image: http://terraserver.microsoft.com/tile.ashx?t=1=10=3699=23016=14


hm...okinteresting...
nofrillssupermarket.com 
The IP host is very suspect, but not on any RBL: 64.74.134.64
Registrant:
 Navigation Catalyst Systems, Inc
 2101 Rosecrans Ave., #2000
 El Segundo, California 90245
 United States


which redirects to prescriptionsmedicines.net
Same Whois info
209.132.212.132


Which points to a ROKSO spammer!!!
http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/sbl.lasso?query=SBL27304


So has a ROKSO now gotten so desperate they now try to fraud people out of junk on craigslist? :) 


Anyone near Blair want to grab some photos of the place for fun? 


Chris Santerre
SysAdmin and SARE/URIBL ninja
http://www.uribl.com
http://www.rulesemporium.com






Re: Latest sa-stats from last week

2006-05-09 Thread Andy Jezierski

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on
05/09/2006 10:27:27 AM:

 |  Holy spoo! Bayes can do MUCH better than that!
 |  {O.O}
 |
 | I'm sure it can, but I've got per-user Bayes and most of my users
 | don't bother to train it.
 |
 
 I'm in a similar situation as Bowie. I had to turn of Bayes
as mail
 that was obviously spam was
 getting a Bayes_0 pulling the # back down under the threshold.

I've got a sitewide Bayes and have had to lower Bayes_99
way down. I just can't seem to get it trained properly to save my
soul. Under SA 2.6x, Bayes ROCKED. Just can't seem to get it
under control on 3.x. Already started from scratch a couple of times.


SPAM

RANK  RULE NAME
   COUNT %OFRULES %OFMAIL
%OFSPAM %OFHAM

 2  BAYES_99  
  7598
  5.93  13.90  64.07  14.77
 23  BAYES_50   
 1718 
 1.34  3.14  14.49  36.42
 28  BAYES_80   
 857
  0.67  1.57  7.23  3.71
 30  BAYES_60   
 792
  0.62  1.45  6.68  4.28
 33  BAYES_95   
 703
  0.55  1.29  5.93  2.10

HAM
___
 2  BAYES_50  
 15593
  8.98  28.52  14.49  36.42
 3  BAYES_00  
 12350
  7.11  22.59  0.44  28.85
 6  BAYES_99  
  6323
  3.64  11.57  64.07  14.77
 19  BAYES_60   
 1831 
 1.05  3.35  6.68  4.28
 21  BAYES_40   
 1634 
 0.94  2.99  0.65  3.82
 22  BAYES_80   
 1590 
 0.92  2.91  7.23  3.71
 24  BAYES_20   
 1519 
 0.88  2.78  0.35  3.55
 29  BAYES_05   
 1077 
 0.62  1.97  0.16  2.52
 32  BAYES_95   
 897
  0.52  1.64  5.93  2.10


Andy


Re: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK

2006-05-09 Thread Matt Kettler
 wrote:
 | 
 |  Easier said than done when you have a paying customer who wants this 
 specific mailing.
 | 
 | Have you tried lowering the score of the spamassassin rules that are
 | getting hit?
 |
 | Jay
 
 
 I'll look at a couple of the examples and see what else is firing.  I may 
 have to tune URI_BLACK
 down a tad.  I'll let you know.


For reference, here's my running config:

urirhssub   URIBL_BLACK  multi.uribl.com.A   2
bodyURIBL_BLACK  eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_BLACK')
describeURIBL_BLACK  Contains an URL listed in the URIBL blacklist
tflags  URIBL_BLACK  net
score   URIBL_BLACK  1.5

urirhssub   URIBL_GREY  multi.uribl.com.A   4
bodyURIBL_GREY  eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_GREY')
describeURIBL_GREY  Contains an URL listed in the URIBL greylist
tflags  URIBL_GREY  net
score   URIBL_GREY  0.1


#adjustment to SURBL lists to control FPs with double-hits
meta URIBL_BLACK_OVERLAP (URIBL_BLACK  (URIBL_AB_SURBL || URIBL_JP_SURBL ||
URIBL_OB_SURBL || URIBL_WS_SURBL || URIBL_SC_SURBL))
score URIBL_BLACK_OVERLAP -1.0




Reasons:

I've scored URIBL_BLACK at 1.5 due to it having the worst S/O of any URIBL other
than PH and GREY. (0.993 in the mass-check Theo posted)

I've scored GREY at 0.1 as an informational rule. It's S/O is so poor it is more
qualified to be a nonspam rule. ( 0.354 in the nightly mass-check Theo posted)

I've added the overlap deduction because the scores of all the other URIBL's
hosted by surbl.org are already balanced and tuned for accuracy without
URIBL_BLACK. Adding more rules offsets that balance, and this tries to 
compensate.

The net effect of my configuration causes URIBL_BLACK to score 1.5 when it fires
alone, but drops it back to 0.5 when other SURBL lists fire.


RE: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK

2006-05-09 Thread Chris Santerre
Title: RE: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK






 
 I've scored GREY at 0.1 as an informational rule. It's S/O is 
 so poor it is more
 qualified to be a nonspam rule. ( 0.354 in the nightly 
 mass-check Theo posted)


Thats actually perfect. Exactly what it was designed to be :) 


Had it been around .8xx I would have been worried. I don't expect that to ever be over .55 at most. 


--Chris 





Nasty bug? in 3.1.1 headers inserting?

2006-05-09 Thread Sietse van Zanen








Hi,



I have come across a nasty issue after upgrading from 3.0.2
to 3.1.1 last weekend.



Somehow the escape sequence when inserting headers into
messages. Has changed from \n\t to \n\r\t 

See the two log examples below.



Apr 30 04:36:14 zpm sendmail[27183]: k3U2ZMeZ027183: Milter
add: header: X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=21.4 required=5.0
tests=BAYES_99,DCC_CHECK,\n\tDOMAIN_RATIO,HTML_90_100,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_08,HTML_MESSAGE,\n\tMIME_HTML_MOSTLY,MIME_QP_LONG_LINE,MPART_ALT_DIFF,PLING_PLING,\n\tURIBL_OB_SURBL,URIBL_SBL,URIBL_SC_SURBL,URIBL_WS_SURBL
autolearn=no \n\tversion=3.0.2

May 9 15:37:03 zpm sendmail[25589]: k49DaweE025589:
Milter add: header: X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=21.5 required=6.0
tests=DCC_CHECK,\r\n\tDNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,\r\n\tFORGED_OUTLOOK_HTML,FORGED_OUTLOOK_TAGS,HTML_10_20,HTML_MESSAGE,\r\n\tHTML_MIME_NO_HTML_TAG,HTTPS_IP_MISMATCH,INVALID_DATE,MIME_HTML_ONLY,\r\n\tMISSING_HEADERS,RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL,RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL,TO_CC_NONE,\r\n\tX_PRIORITY_HIGH
autolearn=spam version=3.1.1



You can disable the inserting of spam/ham headers and the issue
is gone, but then ofcourse the milter no longer works correctly, as it needs
the headers to extract the score from the message. It results in these
messages:

May 9 19:13:28 zpm spamass-milter[14281]: Could not
extract score from 



I wonder why the escape sequence suddenly includes a
carriage return (\r) together with the newline (\n) and tab (\t). I use this
machine as a spam removal gateway for my Exchange environment and Exchange is
not amused by the carriage return and writes the part of the header after that
and any other headers directly into the body of the message.



I am using spamassassin 3.1.1, milter 0.3.0 sendmail 8.12.10
on redhat enterprise 3.0

I use the following local.cf. This is all configuration I
have, all mail is checked for user root, as it is for Exchange and not local.

required_hits 6

rewrite_header Subject [SPAM
(_HITS_)]

report_safe 1

trusted_networks 10.10.

lock_method flock

skip_rbl_checks 0

clear_headers

#add_header all
DCC _DCCB_: _DCCR_

dns_available yes

ok_locales nl
en



use_dcc 1

dcc_home /var/dcc

dcc_path /usr/local/bin/dccproc



def_whitelist_from_rcvd 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wizdom.nu



use_razor2 1



use_bayes 1

bayes_path 
/var/lib/spamassassin/bayes

use_bayes_rules 1

bayes_auto_learn 1

bayes_auto_learn_threshold_spam 8.0

bayes_ignore_header X-XS4ALL-DNSBL

bayes_file_mode 0777

bayes_journal_max_size 1048576

bayes_expiry_max_db_size 60



use_auto_whitelist 1



Anybody has any ideas how this can be fixed?



-Sietse








Re: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK

2006-05-09 Thread Matt Kettler
Chris Santerre wrote:

 Easier said than done when you have a paying customer who
 wants this specific mailing.
 
 Voluntary Human Shileds. They should find another provider, as the needs
 of the many outweight the needs of the few.
 

Are you referring to 's customers, or anyone who's using URIBL_BLACK?

I personally have this problem too. The more severe issue is that once in a rare
while some of the stuff that cross-hits URIBL_BLACK is actually business mail
from a distributor who's referencing pdf's of sales flyers that are hosted on
grey server.

Removing the duplicates, I've submitted 11 delist or demote to grey requests
to URIBL via the web-form so far this year. Two were business related (I used
non-business samples in my submissions). There's also at least one that was
submitted via email report only.

Admittedly they all get handled well, but that's an awful lot, particularly
considering these are just the FP's *I* happened to notice.

In the same timeframe I've found no domains that needed adding. (my last add was
 09/2005)





Re[2]: Latest sa-stats from last week

2006-05-09 Thread Fred T
Hello Rick,

Monday, May 8, 2006, 4:07:53 PM, you wrote:

 Interesting, my Razor stats show a MUCH higher false positive rate, so
 much so that I had to lower the scores dramatically.

 Spam Ham
 1 RAZOR2_CHECK  9744 6.79   33.40   82.848.18
 2 RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_1009303 6.48   31.89   79.097.37
 6 RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E8_51_100 5597 3.90   19.18   47.590.52
 8 RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E4_51_100 5111 3.56   17.52   43.456.86

Ahh but I think everyone might be missing a minor point and that's the
design of this script.  These FPs on HAM rules are just a best guess,
say a spam message only scores 3.0 and is not considered spam, any of
the rules that hit on that message are now going to be part of your
ham classification for SA-Stats.  I noticed this when installing
this script on my server.  So just cause it says it hit 8.18% of ham,
doesn't really mean those hits were really on ham, only what SA
thought was HAM...  hth

-- 
Best regards,
 Fredmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK

2006-05-09 Thread Matt Kettler
Chris Santerre wrote:

 Are you referring to 's customers, or anyone who's using
 URIBL_BLACK?
 
 Just his customer. :)
 
 I'm not that crazy!

Are you sure? :)

Oh, wait.. I forgot.. the first rule of the crazy sysadmins club is...




Re: Nasty bug? in 3.1.1 headers inserting?

2006-05-09 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 07:26:29PM +0200, Sietse van Zanen wrote:
 Somehow the escape sequence when inserting headers into messages. Has
 changed from \n\t to \n\r\t 

Sort of, \r\n\t.

 I wonder why the escape sequence suddenly includes a carriage return
 (\r) together with the newline (\n) and tab (\t). I use this machine as
 a spam removal gateway for my Exchange environment and Exchange is not
 amused by the carriage return and writes the part of the header after
 that and any other headers directly into the body of the message.

This has been discussed before, but the basics are that SpamAssassin
was previously always just adding in \n, which caused problems on some
platforms where the line endings were supposed to be \r\n.  After much
debate about which way (\r\n vs \n vs ...) was correct, and whether
or not changing the behavior was a UI/API change versus a bug fix, etc,
we added in a patch to have the line ending determined and then use
that when adding in headers.  Now SpamAssassin does the right thing
no matter what kind of line ending you throw at it.  However, while half
the people are happy that this happens now, the other half are annoyed
that the previous \n-only behavior isn't the default anymore.

 I am using spamassassin 3.1.1, milter 0.3.0 sendmail 8.12.10 on redhat
 enterprise 3.0
[...]
 Anybody has any ideas how this can be fixed?

There's some difference of opinion around this question, but my general
opinion is that there should be an update to spamass-milter which
properly handles the newlines either way.  I'm not sure whether or not
that's happened yet.

-- 
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Re: SPAM: Tangled web of fun....

2006-05-09 Thread Vivek Khera


On May 9, 2006, at 1:06 PM, Chris Santerre wrote:



The Money OrderSM will NOT be dispatched or get to your resident  
until the
shipment has been verified. This measure is taken in order to  
protect both

seller and buyer interests and to reduce the occurrence of fraudulent
activities.


aka, 'the check is in the mail'.  yeah, right...



RE: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK

2006-05-09 Thread Chris Santerre
Title: RE: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK







 -Original Message-
 From: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 1:32 PM
 To: Chris Santerre
 Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org
 Subject: Re: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK
 
 
 Chris Santerre wrote:
 
  Easier said than done when you have a paying customer who
  wants this specific mailing.
  
  Voluntary Human Shileds. They should find another provider, 
 as the needs
  of the many outweight the needs of the few.
  
 
 Are you referring to 's customers, or anyone who's using 
 URIBL_BLACK?


Just his customer. :) 


I'm not that crazy!


--Chris 





AuthCourier.pm module for SA 3.1.1

2006-05-09 Thread Bowie Bailey
Does anyone know if the AuthCourier.pm module that is described on the
page linked below works with SA 3.1.1?

http://da.andaka.org/Doku/courier-spamassassin.html


I seem to have forgotten to include a subject line on my first message.
Sorry for the duplication.

--
Bowie


RE: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK

2006-05-09 Thread Chris Santerre
Title: RE: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK







 -Original Message-
 From: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 2:12 PM
 To: Chris Santerre
 Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org
 Subject: Re: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK
 
 
 Chris Santerre wrote:
  
 
  I've scored GREY at 0.1 as an informational rule. It's S/O is
  so poor it is more
  qualified to be a nonspam rule. ( 0.354 in the nightly
  mass-check Theo posted)
  
  Thats actually perfect. Exactly what it was designed to be :)
  
  Had it been around .8xx I would have been worried. I don't 
 expect that
  to ever be over .55 at most.
  
 
 Then why is the suggested score on uribl.com 0.25 for this list?
 
 http://www.uribl.com/usage.shtml
 
 If you're expecting the S/O to be that low it should be very 
 near or below 0.
 
 (I'm going to revise my own config to 0.001 for this one)


Cause if there are other rules that fire, then this might just be a SPAM that is using a greyhats URL. So adding that slight little bit to score, may be just the nudge it needed to get pushed over the score limit. 

But if it is a ham, and no other larger spam scores hit, then its score of .25 is insignifigant. 


I think of these rules as herbs and spices. Adds just a bit of flavor, but doesn't take away from the flavor of the key ingredient. Spam or Ham :) 

--Chris 





Re: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK

2006-05-09 Thread qqqq
RE: My only problem with URIBL_BLACKHere's one that just got captured.  The 
mailing was from
Monster.com and the customer is livid :-(

X-Spam-Report:
 *  0.0 MIME_HTML_ONLY BODY: Message only has text/html MIME parts
 *  1.1 URIBL_SBL Contains an URL listed in the SBL blocklist
 *  [URIs: uhmcargo_MUNGED.net]
 *  3.0 URIBL_BLACK Contains an URL listed in the URIBL blacklist
 *  [URIs: uhmcargo_MUNGED.net]
 *  3.4 URIBL_JP_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the JP SURBL blocklist
 *  [URIs: uhmcargo_MUNGED.net]

I had to _MUNGED the domain because the mailing hit 13.5 and bounced

The threshold is 5.5


Here is from my original stats post:
 1URIBL_BLACK 1633977.09   29.11   78.050.50
 5URIBL_JP_SURBL  1182515.13   21.07   56.480.09

What are your thoughts guys?  Lower the score for URI_BLACK and JP?





RE: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK

2006-05-09 Thread Chris Santerre
Title: RE: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK







 -Original Message-
 From:  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 3:12 PM
 To: Chris Santerre; 'Matt Kettler'
 Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org
 Subject: Re: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK
 
 
 RE: My only problem with URIBL_BLACKHere's one that just got 
 captured. The mailing was from
 Monster.com and the customer is livid :-(
 
 X-Spam-Report:
 * 0.0 MIME_HTML_ONLY BODY: Message only has text/html MIME parts
 * 1.1 URIBL_SBL Contains an URL listed in the SBL blocklist
 * [URIs: uhmcargo_MUNGED.net]
 * 3.0 URIBL_BLACK Contains an URL listed in the URIBL blacklist
 * [URIs: uhmcargo_MUNGED.net]
 * 3.4 URIBL_JP_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the JP SURBL 
 blocklist
 * [URIs: uhmcargo_MUNGED.net]
 
 I had to _MUNGED the domain because the mailing hit 13.5 and bounced
 
 The threshold is 5.5
 
 
 Here is from my original stats post:
 1 URIBL_BLACK 163397 7.09 29.11 
 78.05 0.50
 5 URIBL_JP_SURBL 118251 5.13 21.07 
 56.48 0.09
 
 What are your thoughts guys? Lower the score for URI_BLACK and JP?


Its not an FP.


http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing.screenplays.moderated/browse_frm/thread/e7fca5612bbf5aa3/fc75be5ae3052cbb?lnk=st=uhmcargo.net=1=en#fc75be5ae3052cbb

--Chris 





RE: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK

2006-05-09 Thread Dallas L. Engelken
 -Original Message-
 From:  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 14:12
 To: Chris Santerre; 'Matt Kettler'
 Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org
 Subject: Re: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK
 
 RE: My only problem with URIBL_BLACKHere's one that just got 
 captured.  The mailing was from Monster.com and the customer 
 is livid :-(
 
 X-Spam-Report:
  *  0.0 MIME_HTML_ONLY BODY: Message only has text/html MIME parts
  *  1.1 URIBL_SBL Contains an URL listed in the SBL blocklist
  *  [URIs: uhmcargo_MUNGED.net]
  *  3.0 URIBL_BLACK Contains an URL listed in the URIBL blacklist
  *  [URIs: uhmcargo_MUNGED.net]
  *  3.4 URIBL_JP_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the JP SURBL 
 blocklist
  *  [URIs: uhmcargo_MUNGED.net]
 
 I had to _MUNGED the domain because the mailing hit 13.5 and bounced
 
 The threshold is 5.5
 
 
 Here is from my original stats post:
  1URIBL_BLACK 1633977.09   29.11  
  78.050.50
  5URIBL_JP_SURBL  1182515.13   21.07  
  56.480.09
 
 What are your thoughts guys?  Lower the score for URI_BLACK and JP?
 

seriously?  the domains is 3 days old and is unreachable, and uses
outfitter.net NS's which appear to have an identity crisis.

April 25th, 
ns1.outfiter.net  206.173.156.105  
ns2.outfiter.net  24.98.13.40

April 27th, 
ns1.outfiter.net  24.182.165.233
ns2.outfiter.net  67.64.112.94

May 4th,
ns1.outfiter.net  24.247.114.91
ns2.outfiter.net  68.36.53.205

May 8th,
ns1.outfiter.net  24.168.96.193
ns2.outfiter.net  24.247.114.91

Right Now,
ns1.outfitter.net  66.199.187.181
ns2.outfitter.net  66.199.187.181







dallas
 


Re: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK

2006-05-09 Thread qqqq
Chris and Dallas,

Thank you for pointing this out.  I will convey this back to the customer.





- Original Message - 
From: Dallas L. Engelken [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 1:20 PM
Subject: RE: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK


|  -Original Message-
|  From:  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
|  Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 14:12
|  To: Chris Santerre; 'Matt Kettler'
|  Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org
|  Subject: Re: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK
|  
|  RE: My only problem with URIBL_BLACKHere's one that just got 
|  captured.  The mailing was from Monster.com and the customer 
|  is livid :-(
|  
|  X-Spam-Report:
|   *  0.0 MIME_HTML_ONLY BODY: Message only has text/html MIME parts
|   *  1.1 URIBL_SBL Contains an URL listed in the SBL blocklist
|   *  [URIs: uhmcargo_MUNGED.net]
|   *  3.0 URIBL_BLACK Contains an URL listed in the URIBL blacklist
|   *  [URIs: uhmcargo_MUNGED.net]
|   *  3.4 URIBL_JP_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the JP SURBL 
|  blocklist
|   *  [URIs: uhmcargo_MUNGED.net]
|  
|  I had to _MUNGED the domain because the mailing hit 13.5 and bounced
|  
|  The threshold is 5.5
|  
|  
|  Here is from my original stats post:
|   1URIBL_BLACK 1633977.09   29.11  
|   78.050.50
|   5URIBL_JP_SURBL  1182515.13   21.07  
|   56.480.09
|  
|  What are your thoughts guys?  Lower the score for URI_BLACK and JP?
|  
| 
| seriously?  the domains is 3 days old and is unreachable, and uses
| outfitter.net NS's which appear to have an identity crisis.
| 
| April 25th, 
| ns1.outfiter.net  206.173.156.105  
| ns2.outfiter.net  24.98.13.40
| 
| April 27th, 
| ns1.outfiter.net  24.182.165.233
| ns2.outfiter.net  67.64.112.94
| 
| May 4th,
| ns1.outfiter.net  24.247.114.91
| ns2.outfiter.net  68.36.53.205
| 
| May 8th,
| ns1.outfiter.net  24.168.96.193
| ns2.outfiter.net  24.247.114.91
| 
| Right Now,
| ns1.outfitter.net  66.199.187.181
| ns2.outfitter.net  66.199.187.181
| 
| 
| 
| 
| 
| 
| 
| dallas
|  
| 
| 


Here's another to look at

2006-05-09 Thread qqqq
X-Spam-Report:
 * -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record
 *  1.7 EXCUSE_6 BODY: Claims you can be removed from the list
 *  3.0 URIBL_BLACK Contains an URL listed in the URIBL blacklist
 *  [URIs: goldenpalace_MUNGE.com]
 *  1.5 URIBL_WS_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the WS SURBL blocklist
 *  [URIs: goldenpalace_MUNGE.com]
X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=6.3 required=5.5 tests=EXCUSE_6=1.746,
 SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001,URIBL_BLACK=4,URIBL_WS_SURBL=1.533
 autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0

Subject:[ReveNews] - 5 New Entries


This was a mailing list a paying customer signed up for.

Keep in mind that the FP's are real low,  I may just keep the scores as is and 
deal with these
mailing lists as they pop up.





Re: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK

2006-05-09 Thread Matt Kettler
Chris Santerre wrote:
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From:  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 3:12 PM
 To: Chris Santerre; 'Matt Kettler'
 Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org
 Subject: Re: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK


 RE: My only problem with URIBL_BLACKHere's one that just got
 captured.  The mailing was from
 Monster.com and the customer is livid :-(

 X-Spam-Report:
  *  0.0 MIME_HTML_ONLY BODY: Message only has text/html MIME parts
  *  1.1 URIBL_SBL Contains an URL listed in the SBL blocklist
  *  [URIs: uhmcargo_MUNGED.net]
  *  3.0 URIBL_BLACK Contains an URL listed in the URIBL blacklist
  *  [URIs: uhmcargo_MUNGED.net]
  *  3.4 URIBL_JP_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the JP SURBL
 blocklist
  *  [URIs: uhmcargo_MUNGED.net]

 I had to _MUNGED the domain because the mailing hit 13.5 and bounced

 The threshold is 5.5


 Here is from my original stats post:
  1URIBL_BLACK 1633977.09   29.11 
  78.050.50
  5URIBL_JP_SURBL  1182515.13   21.07 
  56.480.09

 What are your thoughts guys?  Lower the score for URI_BLACK and JP?
 
 Its not an FP.
 
 http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing.screenplays.moderated/browse_frm/thread/e7fca5612bbf5aa3/fc75be5ae3052cbb?lnk=stq=uhmcargo.netrnum=1hl=en#fc75be5ae3052cbb
 http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing.screenplays.moderated/browse_frm/thread/e7fca5612bbf5aa3/fc75be5ae3052cbb?lnk=stq=uhmcargo.netrnum=1hl=en#fc75be5ae3052cbb
 

I do tend to agree, this site appears to be a scam.

, feel free to pass all of this on to your user.


I find the domain's registration info rather interesting:
-
Registrant / Admin Contact :
ORGANISATION
  IBC int Laer (IIL2-BMN-ORG)

 RR #3 Box 1122

 17059 Mifflintown
 UNITED STATES

   Contact
  Jo FOLTZ
  phone  : +56 7432674623
  fax:
  e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

snip

Created on 05/06/2006 01:08:40


Hmm.. they're from the United States, yet their phone number is in Chile
(dialing code +56)???

They left out the state, and put things in the wrong order, but 17059 is the zip
code for Mifflintown, PA.

Fixing the address:
 IBC int Laer
 RR #3 Box 1122
 Mifflintown, PA 17059
 UNITED STATES


Also, the company name contains int laer, which appears to be Belgian
language. A web search for this phrase turns up 2 pages in a language I don't
understand hosted out of .be.

So we have a company registered with a Rural-Route address in Pennsylvania, with
a Chilean phone number, a Belgian name, and a yahoo email address... And the
record was created 3 days ago.. Hmmm...


Let's look at their IPs they are hosting their domain from:
---
$ host uhmcargo*MUNGED*.com
uhmcargo*MUNGED*.com has address 82.155.56.150
uhmcargo*MUNGED*.com has address 83.99.128.137
uhmcargo*MUNGED*.com has address 83.213.63.213

$ host 82.155.56.150
150.56.155.82.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer bl6-56-150.dsl.telepac.pt.
$ host 83.99.128.137
137.128.99.83.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer balticom-128-137.balticom.lv.
$ host 83.213.63.213
213.63.213.83.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer 
eu83-213-63-213.clientes.euskaltel.es



Hmm, so they are hosting their website at a lot of different places. A DSL node
in Portugal, Another site in Latvia, and yet one more in Spain?

So this is a company located in Rural PA, with a phone number in Chile, a yahoo
email address, a Belgian name, and web hosting spread across Portugal, Spain and
Latvia...

Looks like your irate customer was saved from receiving a blatant scam.

I wonder what kind of start up fees you need to pay to accept this job





Re: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK

2006-05-09 Thread qqqq
Thanks!

I need to investigate these further before writing them off as a FP.



- Original Message - 
From: Matt Kettler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Chris Santerre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: '' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; users@spamassassin.apache.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK


| Chris Santerre wrote:
| 
| 
|  -Original Message-
|  From:  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
|  Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 3:12 PM
|  To: Chris Santerre; 'Matt Kettler'
|  Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org
|  Subject: Re: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK
| 
| 
|  RE: My only problem with URIBL_BLACKHere's one that just got
|  captured.  The mailing was from
|  Monster.com and the customer is livid :-(
| 
|  X-Spam-Report:
|   *  0.0 MIME_HTML_ONLY BODY: Message only has text/html MIME parts
|   *  1.1 URIBL_SBL Contains an URL listed in the SBL blocklist
|   *  [URIs: uhmcargo_MUNGED.net]
|   *  3.0 URIBL_BLACK Contains an URL listed in the URIBL blacklist
|   *  [URIs: uhmcargo_MUNGED.net]
|   *  3.4 URIBL_JP_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the JP SURBL
|  blocklist
|   *  [URIs: uhmcargo_MUNGED.net]
| 
|  I had to _MUNGED the domain because the mailing hit 13.5 and bounced
| 
|  The threshold is 5.5
| 
| 
|  Here is from my original stats post:
|   1URIBL_BLACK 1633977.09   29.11
|   78.050.50
|   5URIBL_JP_SURBL  1182515.13   21.07
|   56.480.09
| 
|  What are your thoughts guys?  Lower the score for URI_BLACK and JP?
| 
|  Its not an FP.
| 
| 
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing.screenplays.moderated/browse_frm/thread/e7fca5612bbf5aa3/fc75be5ae3052cbb?lnk=stq=uhmcargo.netrnum=1hl=en#fc75be5ae3052cbb
| 
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing.screenplays.moderated/browse_frm/thread/e7fca5612bbf5aa
3/fc75be5ae3052cbb?lnk=stq=uhmcargo.netrnum=1hl=en#fc75be5ae3052cbb
| 
|
| I do tend to agree, this site appears to be a scam.
|
| , feel free to pass all of this on to your user.
|
|
| I find the domain's registration info rather interesting:
| -
| Registrant / Admin Contact :
| ORGANISATION
|   IBC int Laer (IIL2-BMN-ORG)
|
|  RR #3 Box 1122
|
|  17059 Mifflintown
|  UNITED STATES
|
|Contact
|   Jo FOLTZ
|   phone  : +56 7432674623
|   fax:
|   e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|
| snip
|
| Created on 05/06/2006 01:08:40
| 
|
| Hmm.. they're from the United States, yet their phone number is in Chile
| (dialing code +56)???
|
| They left out the state, and put things in the wrong order, but 17059 is the 
zip
| code for Mifflintown, PA.
|
| Fixing the address:
|  IBC int Laer
|  RR #3 Box 1122
|  Mifflintown, PA 17059
|  UNITED STATES
|
|
| Also, the company name contains int laer, which appears to be Belgian
| language. A web search for this phrase turns up 2 pages in a language I don't
| understand hosted out of .be.
|
| So we have a company registered with a Rural-Route address in Pennsylvania, 
with
| a Chilean phone number, a Belgian name, and a yahoo email address... And the
| record was created 3 days ago.. Hmmm...
|
|
| Let's look at their IPs they are hosting their domain from:
| ---
| $ host uhmcargo*MUNGED*.com
| uhmcargo*MUNGED*.com has address 82.155.56.150
| uhmcargo*MUNGED*.com has address 83.99.128.137
| uhmcargo*MUNGED*.com has address 83.213.63.213
|
| $ host 82.155.56.150
| 150.56.155.82.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer bl6-56-150.dsl.telepac.pt.
| $ host 83.99.128.137
| 137.128.99.83.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer balticom-128-137.balticom.lv.
| $ host 83.213.63.213
| 213.63.213.83.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer 
eu83-213-63-213.clientes.euskaltel.es
| 
|
|
| Hmm, so they are hosting their website at a lot of different places. A DSL 
node
| in Portugal, Another site in Latvia, and yet one more in Spain?
|
| So this is a company located in Rural PA, with a phone number in Chile, a 
yahoo
| email address, a Belgian name, and web hosting spread across Portugal, Spain 
and
| Latvia...
|
| Looks like your irate customer was saved from receiving a blatant scam.
|
| I wonder what kind of start up fees you need to pay to accept this job
|
|
|
|



RE: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK

2006-05-09 Thread Dallas L. Engelken
ERRR... SA is rejecting this.

this is getting better...   notice the whois registration address 20222
shadowood parkway matches those found here..
http://www.joewein.net/fraud/fraud-job-2006-04.htm  (thanks joe)

anyone looking for a job from these places is in for a suprise..  see,
now you can go to your client and tell them you saved them money and
maybe their identity!  ;)


looks like its going through another change right now.

# host -tNS uhmcargo_MUNGED.net
Host uhmcargo_MUNGED.net not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)

whois now lists the following ns.
 ns1.narrowtok.net   ns2.narrowtok.net

# host -tNS uhmcargo_MUNGED.net ns1.narrowtok.net
Using domain server:
Name: ns1.narrowtok.net
Address: 67.167.254.42#53
Aliases:

uhmcargo_MUNGED.net name server ns1.narrowtok.net.
uhmcargo_MUNGED.net name server ns2.narrowtok.net.


# host -tA uhmcargo_MUNGED.net ns1.narrowtok.net
Using domain server:
Name: ns1.narrowtok.net
Address: 67.167.254.42#53
Aliases:

uhmcargo_MUNGED.net has address 85.53.1.76
uhmcargo_MUNGED.net has address 213.37.6.147
uhmcargo_MUNGED.net has address 172.201.36.111
uhmcargo_MUNGED.net has address 24.205.215.159



 

 -Original Message-
 From:  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 14:42
 To: Dallas L. Engelken; users@spamassassin.apache.org
 Subject: Re: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK
 
 Chris and Dallas,
 
 Thank you for pointing this out.  I will convey this back to 
 the customer.
 
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Dallas L. Engelken [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 1:20 PM
 Subject: RE: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK
 
 
 |  -Original Message-
 |  From:  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 |  Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 14:12
 |  To: Chris Santerre; 'Matt Kettler'
 |  Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org
 |  Subject: Re: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK
 |  
 |  RE: My only problem with URIBL_BLACKHere's one that just got 
 |  captured.  The mailing was from Monster.com and the customer 
 |  is livid :-(
 |  
 |  X-Spam-Report:
 |   *  0.0 MIME_HTML_ONLY BODY: Message only has text/html MIME parts
 |   *  1.1 URIBL_SBL Contains an URL listed in the SBL blocklist
 |   *  [URIs: uhmcargo_MUNGED.net]
 |   *  3.0 URIBL_BLACK Contains an URL listed in the URIBL blacklist
 |   *  [URIs: uhmcargo_MUNGED.net]
 |   *  3.4 URIBL_JP_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the JP SURBL 
 |  blocklist
 |   *  [URIs: uhmcargo_MUNGED.net]
 |  
 |  I had to _MUNGED the domain because the mailing hit 13.5 
 and bounced
 |  
 |  The threshold is 5.5
 |  
 |  
 |  Here is from my original stats post:
 |   1URIBL_BLACK 1633977.09   29.11  
 |   78.050.50
 |   5URIBL_JP_SURBL  1182515.13   21.07  
 |   56.480.09
 |  
 |  What are your thoughts guys?  Lower the score for 
 URI_BLACK and JP?
 |  
 | 
 | seriously?  the domains is 3 days old and is unreachable, and uses
 | outfitter.net NS's which appear to have an identity crisis.
 | 
 | April 25th, 
 | ns1.outfiter.net  206.173.156.105  
 | ns2.outfiter.net  24.98.13.40
 | 
 | April 27th, 
 | ns1.outfiter.net  24.182.165.233
 | ns2.outfiter.net  67.64.112.94
 | 
 | May 4th,
 | ns1.outfiter.net  24.247.114.91
 | ns2.outfiter.net  68.36.53.205
 | 
 | May 8th,
 | ns1.outfiter.net  24.168.96.193
 | ns2.outfiter.net  24.247.114.91
 | 
 | Right Now,
 | ns1.outfitter.net  66.199.187.181
 | ns2.outfitter.net  66.199.187.181
 | 
 | 
 | 
 | 
 | 
 | 
 | 
 | dallas
 |  
 | 
 | 
 


Re: Here's another to look at

2006-05-09 Thread Matt Kettler
 wrote:
 X-Spam-Report:
  * -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record
  *  1.7 EXCUSE_6 BODY: Claims you can be removed from the list
  *  3.0 URIBL_BLACK Contains an URL listed in the URIBL blacklist
  *  [URIs: goldenpalace_MUNGE.com]
  *  1.5 URIBL_WS_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the WS SURBL blocklist
  *  [URIs: goldenpalace_MUNGE.com]
 X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=6.3 required=5.5 tests=EXCUSE_6=1.746,
  SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001,URIBL_BLACK=4,URIBL_WS_SURBL=1.533
  autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0
 
 Subject:[ReveNews] - 5 New Entries
 
 
 This was a mailing list a paying customer signed up for.


That puts you in a difficult place.. they asked for it, but these guys are known
spamvertizers.

They also engage other creative marketing tactics. They sponsored the guy who
streaked at the superbowl in 2004, who painted their URL on his chest before
running naked onto the field:

*WARNING* The following URL has a full-length photo with a clear shot of the
streaker and the URL legible on him:

http://www.gamblingpress.com/archive/2004/02/0111-super-bowl-streaker.htm





RE: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK

2006-05-09 Thread Dallas L. Engelken
resend again because SA is bouncing them..

 -Original Message-
 From: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 14:51
 To: Chris Santerre
 Cc: ''; users@spamassassin.apache.org
 Subject: Re: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK
 
 Chris Santerre wrote:
  
  
 
 
 Let's look at their IPs they are hosting their domain from:
 ---
 $ host uhmcargo*MUNGED*.com
 uhmcargo*MUNGED*.com has address 82.155.56.150 
 uhmcargo*MUNGED*.com has address 83.99.128.137 
 uhmcargo*MUNGED*.com has address 83.213.63.213
 

FWIW, you just did all the work on the .com, and his email states  .net
;)  appears .com is also bogus, and probably related.  webhost also
appears to agree.

This account has been suspended. Either the domain has been overused,
or the reseller ran out of resources.

anyways, just thought you should know.
d



Re: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK

2006-05-09 Thread Michael Monnerie
On Dienstag, 9. Mai 2006 17:37  wrote:
 Easier said than done when you have a paying customer who wants this
 specific mailing.

He should just filter back those mails from the SPAM folder. You do send 
all SPAM to him anyway, just marked, don't you? So he has it.

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RE: Here's another to look at

2006-05-09 Thread Dallas L. Engelken
 -Original Message-
 From: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 15:01
 To: 
 Cc: Dallas L. Engelken; users@spamassassin.apache.org
 Subject: Re: Here's another to look at
 
  wrote:
  X-Spam-Report:
   * -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record
   *  1.7 EXCUSE_6 BODY: Claims you can be removed from the list
   *  3.0 URIBL_BLACK Contains an URL listed in the URIBL blacklist
   *  [URIs: goldenpalace_MUNGE.com]
   *  1.5 URIBL_WS_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the WS 
 SURBL blocklist
   *  [URIs: goldenpalace_MUNGE.com]
  X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=6.3 required=5.5 tests=EXCUSE_6=1.746,
   SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001,URIBL_BLACK=4,URIBL_WS_SURBL=1.533
   autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0
  
  Subject:[ReveNews] - 5 New Entries
  
  
  This was a mailing list a paying customer signed up for.
 
 
 That puts you in a difficult place.. they asked for it, but 
 these guys are known spamvertizers.
 

and we've had them listed for over 5 months without any delist requests
for it.   can your customers whitelist their own garbage?

dallas



Re: Here's another to look at

2006-05-09 Thread qqqq

| and we've had them listed for over 5 months without any delist requests
| for it.   can your customers whitelist their own garbage?
|
| dallas

Dallas,

You bring up a good point.  I have a method where users can blacklist and block 
certain subjects.  I
just need to add a whitelising option and I wouldn't have to micro manage these 
very few cases.

Thanks again,





limit child process

2006-05-09 Thread Jean-Paul Natola
Hi all,

I'm trying to figure out where/how to limit the number of SA's  child
processes -

The Perl has been killing swap space, I *believe* this would remedy my
situation.

Is this the appropriate list, or should I refer to  FreeBSD list?

tia









Jean-Paul Natola
Network Administrator
Information Technology
Family Care International
588 Broadway Suite 503
New York, NY 10012
Phone:212-941-5300 xt 36
Fax:  212-941-5563
Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: limit child process

2006-05-09 Thread Matt Kettler
Jean-Paul Natola wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I'm trying to figure out where/how to limit the number of SA's  child
 processes -
 
 The Perl has been killing swap space, I *believe* this would remedy my
 situation.
 
 Is this the appropriate list, or should I refer to  FreeBSD list?

This is the appropriate list.

How, exactly, are you calling SA?

Normally folks use spamc/spamd. In which case, spamd by default limits it's own
instances. Spamcs are light-weight, being simple C programs.

If you're just calling spamassassin from a procmail script, set things up so
spamd gets loaded at boot time and start calling spamc from your procmail 
instead.







Re: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK

2006-05-09 Thread Matt Kettler
Dallas L. Engelken wrote:
 resend again because SA is bouncing them..
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 14:51
 To: Chris Santerre
 Cc: ''; users@spamassassin.apache.org
 Subject: Re: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK

 Chris Santerre wrote:


 Let's look at their IPs they are hosting their domain from:
 ---
 $ host uhmcargo*MUNGED*.com
 uhmcargo*MUNGED*.com has address 82.155.56.150 
 uhmcargo*MUNGED*.com has address 83.99.128.137 
 uhmcargo*MUNGED*.com has address 83.213.63.213

 
 FWIW, you just did all the work on the .com, and his email states  .net
 ;)  appears .com is also bogus, and probably related.  webhost also
 appears to agree.


You're right..


Using the .net:
Administrator:
 name: Amber Furlong
 mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: +1.6785283829
 org: Private person

address: 20222 shadowood parkway
 city: Atlanta
,province: GA
,country: UNITED STATES
 postcode: 30339

Phone number, and address are consistent (678 is in Georgia)

However, if you do a search on 20222 shadowood parkway Atlanta you'll find
that this address is a known-offender of money-transfer scams:

http://www.joewein.net/fraud/fraud-job-2006-04.htm



RE: limit child process

2006-05-09 Thread Jean-Paul Natola



-Original Message-
From: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 4:23 PM
To: Jean-Paul Natola
Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: limit child process

Jean-Paul Natola wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I'm trying to figure out where/how to limit the number of SA's  child
 processes -
 
 The Perl has been killing swap space, I *believe* this would remedy my
 situation.
 
 Is this the appropriate list, or should I refer to  FreeBSD list?

This is the appropriate list.

How, exactly, are you calling SA?

Normally folks use spamc/spamd. In which case, spamd by default limits it's
own
instances. Spamcs are light-weight, being simple C programs.

If you're just calling spamassassin from a procmail script, set things up
so
spamd gets loaded at boot time and start calling spamc from your procmail
instead.


Spamd calls it,

But I have seen my monitor , on more than one occasion, with this error,

swap_pager_getswapspace: failed

and the worst part is I don't realize it until I hit the KVM switch , and
actually get on the console -  

so can I customize spamd to a lower limit?

I noticed after I stop /restart spamd my swap goes back to normal



Re: limit child process

2006-05-09 Thread qqqq
 
| Spamd calls it,
| 
| But I have seen my monitor , on more than one occasion, with this error,
| 
| swap_pager_getswapspace: failed
| 
| and the worst part is I don't realize it until I hit the KVM switch , and
| actually get on the console -  
| 
| so can I customize spamd to a lower limit?
| 
| I noticed after I stop /restart spamd my swap goes back to normal


spamd -m 


RE: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK

2006-05-09 Thread Dallas L. Engelken
 -Original Message-
 From: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 15:29
 To: Dallas L. Engelken
 Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org
 Subject: Re: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK
 
 Dallas L. Engelken wrote:
  resend again because SA is bouncing them..
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 14:51
  To: Chris Santerre
  Cc: ''; users@spamassassin.apache.org
  Subject: Re: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK
 
  Chris Santerre wrote:
 
 
  Let's look at their IPs they are hosting their domain from:
  ---
  $ host uhmcargo*MUNGED*.com
  uhmcargo*MUNGED*.com has address 82.155.56.150 
 uhmcargo*MUNGED*.com 
  has address 83.99.128.137 uhmcargo*MUNGED*.com has address 
  83.213.63.213
 
  
  FWIW, you just did all the work on the .com, and his email states  
  .net
  ;)  appears .com is also bogus, and probably related.  webhost also 
  appears to agree.
 
 
 You're right..
 
 
 Using the .net:
 Administrator:
  name: Amber Furlong
  mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: +1.6785283829
  org: Private person
 
 address: 20222 shadowood parkway
  city: Atlanta
 ,province: GA
 ,country: UNITED STATES
  postcode: 30339
 
 Phone number, and address are consistent (678 is in Georgia)
 
 However, if you do a search on 20222 shadowood parkway 
 Atlanta you'll find that this address is a known-offender of 
 money-transfer scams:
 
 http://www.joewein.net/fraud/fraud-job-2006-04.htm
 
 

i posted that, and reposted it due to list reject, about 30 min ago.
did it not come through?





Re: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK

2006-05-09 Thread Matt Kettler
Dallas L. Engelken wrote:


 http://www.joewein.net/fraud/fraud-job-2006-04.htm


 
 i posted that, and reposted it due to list reject, about 30 min ago.
 did it not come through?


It depends upon how you define came through...

Posted to the list - [OK]
Delivered from list to my server - [OK]
Delivered from my server to my mailbox - [OK]
Marked as read in my mail client - [OK]
Actually entered my long-term memory - [FAILED]






RE: Latest sa-stats from last week

2006-05-09 Thread Bowie Bailey
Michael Monnerie wrote:
 On Dienstag, 9. Mai 2006 17:14 Bowie Bailey wrote:
  I've considered that, but it won't work in our setup.  This box
  scans our internal email as well as all of our customer's email.
  Since we are in an entirely different line of business from our
  customers, what we consider to be ham and spam will be quite
  different from theirs. If I could train it on both sets, it might
  work, but I don't have access to any of their emails for training.
 
 I believe that's a general mistake. I've got a server with many diff.
 domains, some people working with china, others with brazil, many
 different languages, and so on. With site wide bayes which is only
 trained _by me_, I've not had a single complaint in years where bayes
 was incorrect.

Hmm... If you are training Bayes, and all of your ham is in English,
then what does Bayes do with the Chinese ham your customers get?

 Real SPAM is really SPAM. For everybody. Those penis enlargements,
 viagra and drug ads, and false job offers are really ever SPAM. And if
 somebody wants to get those info about penis enlargement, he should
 just look in his SPAM folder, it's not getting deleted anyway.

True, spam is spam.  It's the vast differences in ham that I am more
worried about.  Our customers are salesmen for the most part, so they
are constantly sending and receiving marketing type emails.  For us,
marketing stuff is almost always considered spam.  I think this would
cause a problem with false positives for our customers if I train
Bayes based on our idea of ham and spam.

 If you are sane and try to not make mistakes with bayes, it works
 phantastic. I've got about 6.000 spam  ham, and everyday I feed the
 new SPAM to bayes for learning.
 
 Try it: keep some real SPAM, use site-wide bayes without auto-learn.
 Feed at least 200 spam  ham to bayes, and train it every day. You
 will be happy.

I might give it a try.  But, then again, based on some testing I just
did, I might leave it the way it is.  I'll include that info in a
separate thread.

-- 
Bowie


False positives in mails from dynamic IP addresses

2006-05-09 Thread Jarek 111
Hello!

I'm connecting to internet by ISP which gives me different IP every
time, but I'm sending mails by relay on fixed ip. As I see, spamassassin
is checking my dynamic IP address (RCVD_IN_DSBL, RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL) and
marks my emails as spam.
Can I configure spamassassin, so it will check ip of relay instead of
my private dynamic IP ?

-- 
Jarek 111 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Strange Bayes results

2006-05-09 Thread Bowie Bailey
I was checking the relative usefulness of the per-user Bayes databases
for my users and came up with the following confusing information.

When I look at the overall stats, bayes does pretty good:
RANKRULE NAME   COUNT %OFRULES %OFMAIL %OFSPAM  %OFHAM

   6BAYES_9926754 4.19   44.49   67.003.06

But when I do it for only our domain (which is where all the manual
training happens), it hits less ham, but less spam as well:
RANKRULE NAME   COUNT %OFRULES %OFMAIL %OFSPAM  %OFHAM

   8BAYES_99 4649 3.29   33.41   54.640.20

Just my personal email address (which is trained aggressively) gets
very few ham hits (partly because I lowered my threshold to 4.0), but
less spam than overall:
RANKRULE NAME   COUNT %OFRULES %OFMAIL %OFSPAM  %OFHAM

   5BAYES_99 1643 3.08   27.05   65.720.08

And then when I modify sa-stats to exclude our domain, I find that our
customers (who are trained exclusively with autolearn) seem to do
better than us:
RANKRULE NAME   COUNT %OFRULES %OFMAIL %OFSPAM  %OFHAM

   6BAYES_9922105 4.44   47.83   70.354.11

Based on these results, it almost seems like the more training Bayes
gets, the worse it does!

Are these anomolies just an artifact of sa-stats relying on SA to
judge ham and spam properly?  Can these numbers be trusted at all if
my users don't reliably report false negatives and positives?

-- 
Bowie


Re: Here's another to look at

2006-05-09 Thread Kelson

Matt Kettler wrote:

They also engage other creative marketing tactics. They sponsored the guy who
streaked at the superbowl in 2004, who painted their URL on his chest before
running naked onto the field:


Didn't they also sponsor one of the X-Prize contestants?  I seem to 
recall that they gave one of the teams a bunch of money in exchange for 
renaming the ship the Golden Palace something-or-other


Just as well that Scaled Composites won.  Spaceship One isn't exactly 
an exciting name, but at least it wasn't an online gambling company's 
name going down in history.


--
Kelson Vibber
SpeedGate Communications www.speed.net


RE: Strange Bayes results

2006-05-09 Thread Bowie Bailey
Bowie Bailey wrote:
 I was checking the relative usefulness of the per-user Bayes databases
 for my users and came up with the following confusing information.
 
 When I look at the overall stats, bayes does pretty good:
 RANKRULE NAME   COUNT %OFRULES %OFMAIL %OFSPAM  %OFHAM
 
6BAYES_9926754 4.19   44.49   67.003.06
 
 But when I do it for only our domain (which is where all the manual
 training happens), it hits less ham, but less spam as well:
 RANKRULE NAME   COUNT %OFRULES %OFMAIL %OFSPAM  %OFHAM
 
8BAYES_99 4649 3.29   33.41   54.640.20
 
 Just my personal email address (which is trained aggressively) gets
 very few ham hits (partly because I lowered my threshold to 4.0), but
 less spam than overall:
 RANKRULE NAME   COUNT %OFRULES %OFMAIL %OFSPAM  %OFHAM
 
5BAYES_99 1643 3.08   27.05   65.720.08
 
 And then when I modify sa-stats to exclude our domain, I find that our
 customers (who are trained exclusively with autolearn) seem to do
 better than us:
 RANKRULE NAME   COUNT %OFRULES %OFMAIL %OFSPAM  %OFHAM
 
6BAYES_9922105 4.44   47.83   70.354.11
 
 Based on these results, it almost seems like the more training Bayes
 gets, the worse it does!
 
 Are these anomolies just an artifact of sa-stats relying on SA to
 judge ham and spam properly?  Can these numbers be trusted at all if
 my users don't reliably report false negatives and positives?

And as an additional data point, I found this for one of our internal
users who has never done any manual training:
RANKRULE NAME COUNT %OFRULES %OFMAIL %OFSPAM  %OFHAM

   1BAYES_99373 6.76   78.20   95.640.00
   1BAYES_00 7320.51   15.300.00   83.91

-- 
Bowie


Re: False positives in mails from dynamic IP addresses

2006-05-09 Thread Matt Kettler
Jarek 111 wrote:
 Hello!
 
   I'm connecting to internet by ISP which gives me different IP every
 time, but I'm sending mails by relay on fixed ip. As I see, spamassassin
 is checking my dynamic IP address (RCVD_IN_DSBL, RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL) and
 marks my emails as spam.
   Can I configure spamassassin, so it will check ip of relay instead of
 my private dynamic IP ?


Configure your trusted_networks setting and this should clear up.

http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/TrustPath



Re: Latest sa-stats from last week

2006-05-09 Thread Michael Monnerie
On Dienstag, 9. Mai 2006 23:01 Bowie Bailey wrote:
 Hmm... If you are training Bayes, and all of your ham is in English,
 then what does Bayes do with the Chinese ham your customers get?

Nothing. But you won't get a SPAM report from bayes if the e-mail is 
chinese and you never feed chinese language e-mail. So no FPs.

 True, spam is spam.  It's the vast differences in ham that I am more
 worried about.  Our customers are salesmen for the most part, so they
 are constantly sending and receiving marketing type emails.  For us,
 marketing stuff is almost always considered spam.  I think this would
 cause a problem with false positives for our customers if I train
 Bayes based on our idea of ham and spam.

The important thing is that you should *never* feed to bayes something 
that *could* be a legit e-mail. Most people seem to make that error. I 
do NOT feed SPAM nor HAM that could be a legit mail.

Just those nigerian who want to give you some million $ because you are 
so nice, or those lotteries where you won a lot but before you have to 
pay, the very good jobs a lot of people seem to offer where you can 
earn 5000$ for only 3 hours of work and so on.

No chance this could be HAM for anybody (with at least some brain, but 
anyway you have to protect such people from themselves *g*). The same 
for feeding HAM: Give it only food that *is legit e-mail*, not some 
which could be.

Remember: 10 good SPAM and HAM are better than 200 where 5% are wrong.

Another good thing: Since I help with mass-checks, I found that of my 
6000 SPAMs, I had about 4 or 5 which I had to delete (but unlearn 
before), as they were mistakes. That's the advantage you get back when 
running mass-checks.

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Remove Me

2006-05-09 Thread Aaron Boyles
How do I take myself off this mailing list?

-Javin


Re: Remove Me

2006-05-09 Thread Michele Neylon :: Blacknight.ie
Aaron Boyles wrote:
 How do I take myself off this mailing list?
 
 -Javin
list-help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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List-Post: mailto:users@spamassassin.apache.org

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Re: Remove Me

2006-05-09 Thread Matt Kettler
Aaron Boyles wrote:
 How do I take myself off this mailing list?
 
 -Javin
 

Check the headers of any message on this list. They all have a
list-unsubscribe header.

This is the RFC 2369 standardized way for mailing lists to provide this
information, so be sure to look for it elsewhere too. (I know all of
sourceforge's lists do this too)


SQL prefs, what config allowed?

2006-05-09 Thread Charles Sprickman

Hi all,

Is there a canonical listing somewhere of which user prefs are allowed 
when using the SQL store for user preferences?


Can I just assume everything here:

http://spamassassin.apache.org/full/3.0.x/dist/doc/Mail_SpamAssassin_Conf.html

Is possible via the SQL prefs?

Thanks,

Charles



RE: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK

2006-05-09 Thread List Mail User
...
 What are your thoughts guys?  Lower the score for URI_BLACK and JP?
 

seriously?  the domains is 3 days old and is unreachable, and uses
outfitter.net NS's which appear to have an identity crisis.

April 25th, 
ns1.outfiter.net  206.173.156.105  
ns2.outfiter.net  24.98.13.40
   
April 27th, 
ns1.outfiter.net  24.182.165.233
ns2.outfiter.net  67.64.112.94
   
May 4th,
ns1.outfiter.net  24.247.114.91
ns2.outfiter.net  68.36.53.205

May 8th,
ns1.outfiter.net  24.168.96.193
ns2.outfiter.net  24.247.114.91
   
Right Now,
ns1.outfitter.net  66.199.187.181
ns2.outfitter.net  66.199.187.181

...

dallas

Are you just giving a sample?  How about the some more of the IP
jumps in the past nine days:

ns1.outfiter.net
2006-May-04 21:05:5324.168.96.193
2006-May-01 21:05:1368.36.53.205
2006-May-01 15:05:5524.24.83.45
2006-Apr-30 22:04:8024.182.165.233
2006-Apr-30 14:04:419   71.241.106.238

Hosted on cable modem and DSL zombies, registered using the
reseller Regtime.net/webnames.ru at OnlineNIC, using a real address
but the name of an unregistered/unlicensed corporation in Missouri
with a telephone number in Montana.  (No Barnwell Inc. exists, but
a BARNWELL  HAYS, INC. is an inactive business, shutdown in 2000).

Or the rest of a current snapshot (all zombies)

% dig outfiter.net @68.36.53.205
...
;; ANSWER SECTION:
outfiter.net.   300 IN  A   65.75.90.172
outfiter.net.   300 IN  A   194.208.180.242
outfiter.net.   300 IN  A   24.182.165.233

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
outfiter.net.   300 IN  NS  ns1.outfiter.net.
outfiter.net.   300 IN  NS  ns2.outfiter.net.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns1.outfiter.net.   300 IN  A   68.36.53.205
ns2.outfiter.net.   300 IN  A   68.111.102.17
...

Plus the original domain, uhmcargo-M.net, has already been
suspended (though if you force it to be resolved, you can see it is
also up and hosted on zombies).

% whois uhmcargo-M.net | fgrep Status
   Status: REGISTRAR-HOLD
   EPP Status: clientHold
   EPP Status: clientDeleteProhibited
   EPP Status: clientUpdateProhibited
   EPP Status: clientTransferProhibited

% dig uhmcargo-M.net @67.167.254.42
...
;; ANSWER SECTION:
uhmcargo-M.net. 300 IN  A   212.183.251.114
uhmcargo-M.net. 300 IN  A   66.31.52.46
uhmcargo-M.net. 300 IN  A   172.201.36.111
uhmcargo-M.net. 300 IN  A   24.205.215.159
...

Tell the recipient that this message either did not come from
monster.com, or (quite unlikely) someone has turned black-hat.

Paul Shupak
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Nasty bug? in 3.1.1 headers inserting?

2006-05-09 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea

On 5/9/2006 2:16 PM, Theo Van Dinter wrote:


There's some difference of opinion around this question, but my general
opinion is that there should be an update to spamass-milter which
properly handles the newlines either way.  I'm not sure whether or not
that's happened yet.


As discussed in this SA bug:

http://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=4844

this spamass-milter bug has a (confirmed to work) patch that fixes the 
problem with spamass-milter:


http://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?func=detailitemitem_id=16164


I do not know if there is an updated spamass-milter release.  I'm 
assuming there isn't since their bug is still open.



Daryl


bayes database problem with 3.1.1

2006-05-09 Thread Webmaster
Running on freebsd 6.0
Having problems getting 3.1.1 to work with mysql based bayes.
Please see the sa-learn -D --sync result

mail-av1# sa-learn -D --sync
[25988] dbg: logger: adding facilities: all
[25988] dbg: logger: logging level is DBG
[25988] dbg: generic: SpamAssassin version 3.1.1
[25988] dbg: config: score set 0 chosen.
[25988] dbg: util: running in taint mode? yes
[25988] dbg: util: taint mode: deleting unsafe environment variables,
resetting PATH
[25988] dbg: util: PATH included '/sbin', keeping
[25988] dbg: util: PATH included '/bin', keeping
[25988] dbg: util: PATH included '/usr/sbin', keeping
[25988] dbg: util: PATH included '/usr/bin', keeping
[25988] dbg: util: PATH included '/usr/games', keeping
[25988] dbg: util: PATH included '/usr/local/sbin', keeping
[25988] dbg: util: PATH included '/usr/local/bin', keeping
[25988] dbg: util: PATH included '/usr/X11R6/bin', which doesn't exist,
dropping
[25988] dbg: util: PATH included '/root/bin', which doesn't exist, dropping
[25988] dbg: util: final PATH set to:
/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin
[25988] dbg: dns: is Net::DNS::Resolver available? yes
[25988] dbg: dns: Net::DNS version: 0.55
[25988] dbg: config: using /usr/local/etc/mail/spamassassin for site rules
pre files
[25988] dbg: config: read file /usr/local/etc/mail/spamassassin/init.pre
[25988] dbg: config: read file /usr/local/etc/mail/spamassassin/v310.pre
[25988] dbg: config: using /usr/local/share/spamassassin for sys rules pre
files
[25988] dbg: config: using /usr/local/share/spamassassin for default rules
dir
[25988] dbg: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/10_misc.cf
[25988] dbg: config: read file
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_advance_fee.cf
[25988] dbg: config: read file
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_anti_ratware.cf
[25988] dbg: config: read file
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_body_tests.cf
[25988] dbg: config: read file
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_compensate.cf
[25988] dbg: config: read file
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_dnsbl_tests.cf
[25988] dbg: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_drugs.cf
[25988] dbg: config: read file
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_fake_helo_tests.cf
[25988] dbg: config: read file
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_head_tests.cf
[25988] dbg: config: read file
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_html_tests.cf
[25988] dbg: config: read file
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_meta_tests.cf
[25988] dbg: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_net_tests.cf
[25988] dbg: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_phrases.cf
[25988] dbg: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_porn.cf
[25988] dbg: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_ratware.cf
[25988] dbg: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/20_uri_tests.cf
[25988] dbg: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/23_bayes.cf
[25988] dbg: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/25_accessdb.cf
[25988] dbg: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/25_antivirus.cf
[25988] dbg: config: read file
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/25_body_tests_es.cf
[25988] dbg: config: read file
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/25_body_tests_pl.cf
[25988] dbg: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/25_dcc.cf
[25988] dbg: config: read file
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/25_domainkeys.cf
[25988] dbg: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/25_hashcash.cf
[25988] dbg: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/25_pyzor.cf
[25988] dbg: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/25_razor2.cf
[25988] dbg: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/25_replace.cf
[25988] dbg: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/25_spf.cf
[25988] dbg: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/25_textcat.cf
[25988] dbg: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/25_uribl.cf
[25988] dbg: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/30_text_de.cf
[25988] dbg: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/30_text_fr.cf
[25988] dbg: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/30_text_it.cf
[25988] dbg: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/30_text_nl.cf
[25988] dbg: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/30_text_pl.cf
[25988] dbg: config: read file
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/30_text_pt_br.cf
[25988] dbg: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/50_scores.cf
[25988] dbg: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/60_awl.cf
[25988] dbg: config: read file /usr/local/share/spamassassin/60_whitelist.cf
[25988] dbg: config: read file
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/60_whitelist_spf.cf
[25988] dbg: config: read file
/usr/local/share/spamassassin/60_whitelist_subject.cf
[25988] dbg: config: using /usr/local/etc/mail/spamassassin for site rules
dir
[25988] dbg: config: read file /usr/local/etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf
[25988] dbg: config: using /root/.spamassassin/user_prefs for user prefs
file
[25988] dbg: config: read file 

RE: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK

2006-05-09 Thread Dallas L. Engelken
 -Original Message-
 From: List Mail User [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 6:36 PM
 To: Dallas L. Engelken; users@spamassassin.apache.org
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK
 
 ...
  What are your thoughts guys?  Lower the score for URI_BLACK and JP?
  
 
 seriously?  the domains is 3 days old and is unreachable, and uses 
 outfitter.net NS's which appear to have an identity crisis.
 
 April 25th,
 ns1.outfiter.net  206.173.156.105
 ns2.outfiter.net  24.98.13.40
  
 April 27th,
 ns1.outfiter.net  24.182.165.233
 ns2.outfiter.net  67.64.112.94
  
 May 4th,
 ns1.outfiter.net  24.247.114.91
 ns2.outfiter.net  68.36.53.205
 
 May 8th,
 ns1.outfiter.net  24.168.96.193
 ns2.outfiter.net  24.247.114.91
  
 Right Now,
 ns1.outfitter.net  66.199.187.181
 ns2.outfitter.net  66.199.187.181
 
 ...
 
 dallas
 
   Are you just giving a sample?  How about the some more 
 of the IP jumps in the past nine days:
 

Just enough to show we have sufficient evidence to autolist without
human review :)

I see a couple of their bogus sites are still online.  I'm sure there
are more.

 euro-rental .net
 l-f-union .com




Re: Here's another to look at

2006-05-09 Thread jdow

From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


X-Spam-Report:
* -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record
*  1.7 EXCUSE_6 BODY: Claims you can be removed from the list
*  3.0 URIBL_BLACK Contains an URL listed in the URIBL blacklist
*  [URIs: goldenpalace_MUNGE.com]
*  1.5 URIBL_WS_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the WS SURBL blocklist
*  [URIs: goldenpalace_MUNGE.com]
X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=6.3 required=5.5 tests=EXCUSE_6=1.746,
SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001,URIBL_BLACK=4,URIBL_WS_SURBL=1.533
autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0

Subject:[ReveNews] - 5 New Entries


This was a mailing list a paying customer signed up for.

Keep in mind that the FP's are real low,  I may just keep the scores as is and deal with 
these

mailing lists as they pop up.


Per user whitelists appear to be needed to handle this. The name itself
makes me think heavy porn.

Personally I am not a proper political animal so I'd tell the customer
to check their spam folder for this email if they want it. Whois shows
the site is indeed a porn site. If you generally whitelist it then
you open your whole email service to a porn spammer.

{o.o} 



Re: Latest sa-stats from last week

2006-05-09 Thread jdow

From: Bowie Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Michael Monnerie wrote:

On Dienstag, 9. Mai 2006 16:18 Bowie Bailey wrote:
 I've got per-user Bayes and most of my users
 don't bother to train it.

Another reason for site-wide bayes, I'd say.


I've considered that, but it won't work in our setup.  This box scans
our internal email as well as all of our customer's email.  Since we
are in an entirely different line of business from our customers, what
we consider to be ham and spam will be quite different from theirs.
If I could train it on both sets, it might work, but I don't have
access to any of their emails for training.

Also, I really prefer a per-user bayes for our internal email since
there are various accounts that get a specific type of ham and work
very well with Bayes.


Importune on them to feed you as large a collection of ham and spam
as they can, once. Then turn on autolearn, cross your fingers, and
put on your flack jacket.

{O.O}


Re: Latest sa-stats from last week

2006-05-09 Thread jdow

From: Bowie Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]


jdow wrote:

From: Bowie Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  wrote:
TOP SPAM RULES FIRED

RANKRULE NAME   COUNT %OFRULES
   %OFMAIL %OFSPAM  %OFHAM

1 URIBL_BLACK 1633977.09 
29.11   78.050.50
   
   Nice.
   
   How does that Queen song go??  We... are...  ;)
  
  LOL!  Congrats!
 
 I'll second that!  I think the network tests are taking over...
 
 TOP SPAM RULES FIRED

 
 RANKRULE NAMECOUNT %OFRULES %OFMAIL %OFSPAM %OFHAM
 
  6  BAYES_99 26754 4.19   44.49   67.00  3.06

Holy spoo! Bayes can do MUCH better than that!
{O.O}


I'm sure it can, but I've got per-user Bayes and most of my users
don't bother to train it.


That brings to mind an interesting question. Could SpamAssassin (ever)
be configured to accept a global Bayes with per user Bayes for er
seasoning? Could such a setup be effective?

{^_^}


Re: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK

2006-05-09 Thread jdow

From: Chris Santerre [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From:  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: My only problem with URIBL_BLACKHere's one that just got 
captured.  The mailing was from

Monster.com and the customer is livid :-(

X-Spam-Report:
 *  0.0 MIME_HTML_ONLY BODY: Message only has text/html MIME parts
 *  1.1 URIBL_SBL Contains an URL listed in the SBL blocklist
 *  [URIs: uhmcargo_MUNGED.net]
 *  3.0 URIBL_BLACK Contains an URL listed in the URIBL blacklist
 *  [URIs: uhmcargo_MUNGED.net]
 *  3.4 URIBL_JP_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the JP SURBL 
blocklist

 *  [URIs: uhmcargo_MUNGED.net]

I had to _MUNGED the domain because the mailing hit 13.5 and bounced

The threshold is 5.5


Here is from my original stats post:
 1URIBL_BLACK 1633977.09   29.11  
 78.050.50
 5URIBL_JP_SURBL  1182515.13   21.07  
 56.480.09


What are your thoughts guys?  Lower the score for URI_BLACK and JP?


Its not an FP.

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing.screenplays.moderated/browse_frm
/thread/e7fca5612bbf5aa3/fc75be5ae3052cbb?lnk=stq=uhmcargo.netrnum=1hl=en
#fc75be5ae3052cbb


And the registrant is a single person with, it appears, one single
network address. For the 6th largest shipper that is a pathetic
web presence.

{^_-}


Re: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK

2006-05-09 Thread jdow

From: Matt Kettler [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Chris Santerre wrote:




-Original Message-
From:  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 3:12 PM
To: Chris Santerre; 'Matt Kettler'
Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK


RE: My only problem with URIBL_BLACKHere's one that just got
captured.  The mailing was from
Monster.com and the customer is livid :-(

X-Spam-Report:
 *  0.0 MIME_HTML_ONLY BODY: Message only has text/html MIME parts
 *  1.1 URIBL_SBL Contains an URL listed in the SBL blocklist
 *  [URIs: uhmcargo_MUNGED.net]
 *  3.0 URIBL_BLACK Contains an URL listed in the URIBL blacklist
 *  [URIs: uhmcargo_MUNGED.net]
 *  3.4 URIBL_JP_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the JP SURBL
blocklist
 *  [URIs: uhmcargo_MUNGED.net]

I had to _MUNGED the domain because the mailing hit 13.5 and bounced

The threshold is 5.5


Here is from my original stats post:
 1URIBL_BLACK 1633977.09   29.11
 78.050.50
 5URIBL_JP_SURBL  1182515.13   21.07
 56.480.09

What are your thoughts guys?  Lower the score for URI_BLACK and JP?


Its not an FP.

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing.screenplays.moderated/browse_frm/thread/e7fca5612bbf5aa3/fc75be5ae3052cbb?lnk=stq=uhmcargo.netrnum=1hl=en#fc75be5ae3052cbb
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing.screenplays.moderated/browse_frm/thread/e7fca5612bbf5aa3/fc75be5ae3052cbb?lnk=stq=uhmcargo.netrnum=1hl=en#fc75be5ae3052cbb



I do tend to agree, this site appears to be a scam.

, feel free to pass all of this on to your user.


I find the domain's registration info rather interesting:
-
Registrant / Admin Contact :
ORGANISATION
 IBC int Laer (IIL2-BMN-ORG)

RR #3 Box 1122

17059 Mifflintown
UNITED STATES

  Contact
 Jo FOLTZ
 phone  : +56 7432674623
 fax:
 e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

snip

Created on 05/06/2006 01:08:40


Hmm.. they're from the United States, yet their phone number is in Chile
(dialing code +56)???

They left out the state, and put things in the wrong order, but 17059 is the zip
code for Mifflintown, PA.

Fixing the address:
IBC int Laer
RR #3 Box 1122
Mifflintown, PA 17059
UNITED STATES


Also, the company name contains int laer, which appears to be Belgian
language. A web search for this phrase turns up 2 pages in a language I don't
understand hosted out of .be.

So we have a company registered with a Rural-Route address in Pennsylvania, with
a Chilean phone number, a Belgian name, and a yahoo email address... And the
record was created 3 days ago.. Hmmm...


Let's look at their IPs they are hosting their domain from:
---
$ host uhmcargo*MUNGED*.com
uhmcargo*MUNGED*.com has address 82.155.56.150
uhmcargo*MUNGED*.com has address 83.99.128.137
uhmcargo*MUNGED*.com has address 83.213.63.213

$ host 82.155.56.150
150.56.155.82.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer bl6-56-150.dsl.telepac.pt.
$ host 83.99.128.137
137.128.99.83.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer balticom-128-137.balticom.lv.
$ host 83.213.63.213
213.63.213.83.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer 
eu83-213-63-213.clientes.euskaltel.es



Hmm, so they are hosting their website at a lot of different places. A DSL node
in Portugal, Another site in Latvia, and yet one more in Spain?

So this is a company located in Rural PA, with a phone number in Chile, a yahoo
email address, a Belgian name, and web hosting spread across Portugal, Spain and
Latvia...

Looks like your irate customer was saved from receiving a blatant scam.

I wonder what kind of start up fees you need to pay to accept this job


Fascinating - even the whois registration seems to have MPD, er Multiple
Personality Disorder. This is what I got in part:
===8---
Registrant:
Amber Furlong [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1.6785283829
Private person
20222 shadowood parkway
Atlanta,GA,UNITED STATES 30339


Domain Name:uhmcargo.net-M
Record last updated at 2006-05-05 18:11:50
Record created on 2006/5/5
Record expired on 2007/5/5


Domain servers in listed order:
ns1.narrowtok.net-M   ns2.narrowtok.net-M

Administrator:
20222 shadowood parkway
Atlanta
GA,
UNITED STATES
30339
===8---

It might have been hijacked recently. But then, for a brandy spanky new
registration that seems unlikely
{^_^} 



Re: 20_bodytests

2006-05-09 Thread Sanford Whiteman


Dan-80 wrote:
 
 2) What do 'tflags' do?:
 
   describe MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY   MIME character set indicates foreign  
 language
   tflags MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY userconf
 

tflags SYMBOLIC_TEST_NAME [ {net|nice|learn|userconf|noautolearn} ]

Used to set flags on a test. These flags are used in the score-determination
back end system for details of the test's behaviour. Please see
bayes_auto_learn and use_auto_whitelist for more information about tflag
interaction with those systems. The following flags can be set: 
net

The test is a network test, and will not be run in the mass checking system
or if -L is used, therefore its score should not be modified. 

nice

The test is intended to compensate for common false positives, and should be
assigned a negative score. 

userconf

The test requires user configuration before it can be used (like language-
specific tests). 

learn

The test requires training before it can be used. 

noautolearn

The test will explicitly be ignored when calculating the score for learning
systems.


Dan-80 wrote:
 
 3) What are 'test' lines?:
 

test SYMBOLIC_TEST_NAME (ok|fail) Some string to test against

Define a regression testing string. You can have more than one regression
test string per symbolic test name. Simply specify a string that you wish
the test to match. 
These tests are only run as part of the test suite - they should not affect
the general running of SpamAssassin.

--Sandy
--
View this message in context: 
http://www.nabble.com/20_bodytests-t1553240.html#a4312791
Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users forum at Nabble.com.



RE: SPAM: Tangled web of fun....

2006-05-09 Thread Brent Kennedy
Title: SPAM: Tangled web of fun



LOL, thats pretty sad. Stupid cons have ruined the 
internet flea market. 


From: Chris Santerre 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 
1:07 PMTo: Spaml (E-mail); Spamassassin-Talk 
(E-mail)Subject: SPAM: Tangled web of fun

Alright, so I'm eating lunch and catching up on my sports car 
forum, where a buddy posts about a possible scam from selling something on 
craigslist. He gets an email (I don't have the headers.) supposedly from the 
USPS:
I'm sniping a lot of useless info out.bear with me, this is 
interesting... 
" From: United States Postal Service [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 

Dear x, Congratulations! The 
order placed by the buyer of your item: Mrs.  to have a United States 
Postal Service branded Money OrderSM $xxx:00 USD sent to you as payment for the 
item: xx has been successfully processed and has consequently been APPROVED. 
The financial details of the transaction are stated below:
*snip* 
=== 
***ATTENTION*** The order has been 
APPROVED, you CAN NOW ship the merchandise to the buyer's shipping address. You 
are expected to make the shipment within 48 hours of recieving this Payment 
Confirmation Notification and get to our Costumer/Technical Dept. with the 
tracking number for Shipment Verification via: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Money OrderSM will NOT be dispatched or get to your resident 
until the shipment has been verified. This measure is taken in order to protect 
both seller and buyer interests and to reduce the occurrence of fraudulent 
activities.
blah blah blah. ship here: 
238 S 8th St. Blair, NE, 68008 " 

Ok, I figure I'll help him, its lunch and I'm boredObviously 
USPS isn't in the escrow business. 
accountant.com Gerald Gorman 
33 Knightsbridge Rd. Piscataway, NJ 
08854 US Phone: 
9086960929 
Meh...not much to go onGorman is a squatter??? 
Blair Address comes back as... No Frills 
Supermarket 238 S 8th St Blair, 
NE 68008-2410 Phone: (402) 426-4757 
1999 image: http://terraserver.microsoft.com/tile.ashx?t=1s=10x=3699y=23016z=14 

hm...okinteresting... nofrillssupermarket.com The IP host is very 
suspect, but not on any RBL: 64.74.134.64 Registrant:  Navigation Catalyst 
Systems, Inc  2101 Rosecrans Ave., 
#2000  El Segundo, California 90245 
 United States 
which redirects to prescriptionsmedicines.net Same Whois info 209.132.212.132 
Which points to a ROKSO spammer!!! http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/sbl.lasso?query=SBL27304 

So has a ROKSO now gotten so desperate they now try to fraud 
people out of junk on craigslist? :) 
Anyone near Blair want to grab some photos of the place for fun? 

Chris Santerre SysAdmin and SARE/URIBL 
ninja http://www.uribl.com http://www.rulesemporium.com 


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2006-05-09 Thread jdow

Is bouncing messages from the list to the original senders with protocol
error complaints. It might be nice to unsubscribe him until he gets it
fixed.

{^_^}