Re: not everyone is happy with SA

2007-07-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 20 July 2007, Loren Wilton wrote:
 I guess that's just another chapter in the proof that there is one born
 every
 minute.

When P.T. Barnum made that statement the population of the US was about 60
million.  It is now somewhere north of 250 million.

Loren

Humm, so we must be averaging around 4 a minute in order to keep the curve 
rising that steeply?

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Re: not everyone is happy with SA

2007-07-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 20 July 2007, John Rudd wrote:
someone that Skip Brott didn't attribute wrote:
 Why is it my responsibility as a holder of a valid email address to
 accept mail from anyone who wants to send me the mail? As the owner of
 the email address or, as the admin of the domain's mail server, I have no
 obligation

 to

 accept your mail at all.
 Obligations should be on the sender.

You are correct that you have no obligation to accept email from me (nor
anyone else for that matter), the issue of obligations upon the sender
depends on which obligations you're talking about, and which sender
you're talking about.


If I'm replying to a question you asked, then you are the _original_
sender, and no, it is not my obligation to jump through your C/R hoops
in order to get the answer to you.  If you want the answer to your
question, it's YOUR obligation to make sure you can receive my answer.


If I didn't send the message at all, but this is backscatter, then it is
your obligation to prevent backscatter to innocent bystanders.  It's not
my obligation to deal with your challenge messages, and it's entirely my
  digression as to whether or not I'm going to report you to a blacklist
for producing backscatter.  At that point, it becomes YOUR obligation to
get yourself off of a blacklist.


Further, I as the sender have no obligation to participate in your
anti-spam mechanism.  It's YOUR mechanism.  You feed it, you configure
it, your CPU cycles are spent on it.  I have no obligation to
participate in the program you use for deciding is this spam or not.
I have no obligation to devote my time and my CPU cycles to your
anti-spam program.  It's rather rude for you to assume otherwise.

All very well stated.  So if you send me a C/R, for any reason whatsoever, 
if it actually gets past SA, it either is fed back as spam to train my bayes 
or deleted and promptly forgotten about.  But don't expect any of us to be 
happy when, after composing a 4 kilobyte response from scratch in response to 
your plea for help, something that took half an hour of my time typing with 
72 year old fingers, and looking up the data so that my answer might be 
correct, only to be greeted 90 seconds later on my next mail suck, with a C/R 
from you.  Then, because you're an ass, you didn't get the answers you asked 
for, so you keep on flooding the list with your question.  At that point, 
I'll not reply again, but I will add your email address to my procmailrc file 
as one to be delivered to /dev/null.

And you had better believe me when I say I am not the only one here who will 
do that, there are far more knowledgeable people here than I who will do 
that, maybe even quicker.  And I do not make it a habit to expire those 
entries in my procmailrc.  Once you are there, goodbye.  And no one but you 
gave me reason to put you there.

Oh, did I mention I don't like C/R systems?  I don't...

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Cheers, Gene
There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order.
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Q:  What do Winnie the Pooh and John the Baptist have in common?
A:  The same middle name.


Re: not everyone is happy with SA

2007-07-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 20 July 2007, jdow wrote:
From: Steven Stern [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 John Rudd wrote:
 Further, I as the sender have no obligation to participate in your
 anti-spam mechanism.  It's YOUR mechanism.  You feed it, you configure
 it, your CPU cycles are spent on it.  I have no obligation to
 participate in the program you use for deciding is this spam or not. I
 have no obligation to devote my time and my CPU cycles to your anti-spam
 program.  It's rather rude for you to assume otherwise.

 My company's website has a click here and we'll send you your password
 (or something similar).  You'd be amazed how many calls we get claiming
 it doesn't work. When I track through the logs, I find most come from
 people with CR systems.  You can't use a CR when you're talking to a
 robot.  These things make me sooo mad.

I wonder how many I can't get off this #)$([EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list! 
messages
are due to a recently installed C/R system.

C/R systems CAN be their own punishment.

{^_-}

Not CAN my dear girl, ARE...

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There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order.
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Whistler's Law:
You never know who is right, but you always know who is in charge.


Re: Sa-update question

2007-07-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 20 July 2007, Richard Frovarp wrote:
Gene Heskett wrote:
 Also, how about /etc/mail/spamassassin/RuleDuJour?  Can that copy of all
 this go away also?  It is not being mentioned in the --lint -D report
 output.

That was just a staging area for RDJ and never used by spamassassin.
Updates were downloaded there first and then linted to make sure they
worked. Blow it away.

 And finally, I assume I have to add this PDFInfo.pm to a config file
 someplace as its not being mentioned in the --lint -D output either. SA is
 3.20, so where do I enable that?

Instruction are in the pm file.

The only thing is, either I'm blind, or its now working.  I 
edited /etc/mail/spamassassin/v320.pre intending to add it, and found it 
already there, so I re-ran the --lint -D, and it was there.  So I just 
restarted spamassassin.

Now, I can presume to delete any earlier v3xx.pre files I guess.  Amazing how 
this cruft collects, and many thanks to all the responders here.

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There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order.
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could be the start too!


Re: Sa-update question

2007-07-21 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea

Gene Heskett wrote:

On Friday 20 July 2007, Richard Frovarp wrote:

Gene Heskett wrote:

Also, how about /etc/mail/spamassassin/RuleDuJour?  Can that copy of all
this go away also?  It is not being mentioned in the --lint -D report
output.

That was just a staging area for RDJ and never used by spamassassin.
Updates were downloaded there first and then linted to make sure they
worked. Blow it away.


And finally, I assume I have to add this PDFInfo.pm to a config file
someplace as its not being mentioned in the --lint -D output either. SA is
3.20, so where do I enable that?

Instruction are in the pm file.


The only thing is, either I'm blind, or its now working.  I 
edited /etc/mail/spamassassin/v320.pre intending to add it, and found it 
already there, so I re-ran the --lint -D, and it was there.  So I just 
restarted spamassassin.


v320.pre has ImageInfo by default, but not PDFInfo.



Now, I can presume to delete any earlier v3xx.pre files I guess.


No.


Daryl


Re: not everyone is happy with SA

2007-07-21 Thread John Rudd

Gene Heskett wrote:

On Friday 20 July 2007, John Rudd wrote:


All very well stated.  So if you send me a C/R, for any reason whatsoever, 
if it actually gets past SA, it either is fed back as spam to train my bayes 
or deleted and promptly forgotten about.  But don't expect any of us to be 
happy when, after composing a 4 kilobyte response from scratch in response to 
your plea for help, something that took half an hour of my time typing with 
72 year old fingers, and looking up the data so that my answer might be 
correct, only to be greeted 90 seconds later on my next mail suck, with a C/R 
from you.  Then, because you're an ass, you didn't get the answers you asked 
for, so you keep on flooding the list with your question.  At that point, 
I'll not reply again, but I will add your email address to my procmailrc file 
as one to be delivered to /dev/null.


And you had better believe me when I say I am not the only one here who will 
do that, there are far more knowledgeable people here than I who will do 
that, maybe even quicker.  And I do not make it a habit to expire those 
entries in my procmailrc.  Once you are there, goodbye.  And no one but you 
gave me reason to put you there.


Oh, did I mention I don't like C/R systems?  I don't...



uh... did you actually read my message?  You're attacking me for being 
anti-C/R, and then stating some of my exact same arguments against me? 
Did you have a few too many beers while out on Friday night?




Uninstall SA

2007-07-21 Thread carnold5
We have moved from hula email system to zimbra. Zimbra has built-in SA.
We installed SA from source; how do we uninstall, completely, SA?
begin:vcard
n:Arnold;Chris
fn:Arnold, Chris
url:http://www.mytimewithgod.net
version:2.1
email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
end:vcard



Re: Uninstall SA

2007-07-21 Thread Matt Kettler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We have moved from hula email system to zimbra. Zimbra has built-in SA.
 We installed SA from source; how do we uninstall, completely, SA?
   

First, you need to undo whatever you did to integrate SA into your
mailsystem. If you added it to procmail, remove it from procmail, etc.
Since there's dozens of ways to integrate SA, and you've not specified
what method you're using, I can't really be any more specific here. You
must do this part first, and I would strongly recommend confirming that
incoming mail is no longer being processed by SA.

Note: if you proceed past the first step without disabling SA, your mail
chain will contiune to call SA, and fail, which may result in your mail
tools getting tangled up.

Second, if you use spamd, shut it down.

Finally, go to the source you installed from and run make uninstall.
This won't actually uninstall SA, but will provide you a list of files
to delete.  Proceed to delete them manually.




Spam Du Jour ? *.XLS

2007-07-21 Thread Yet Another Ninja

LOL

investors news-76212.xls, et all

no real challenge



Include directives in user_prefs was Whitelist of my friends -- followup

2007-07-21 Thread Igor Chudov
Can I somehow specify an include directive in my user_prefs file, such
as include my_friends.cf?

i


Excel Stock Spam

2007-07-21 Thread Matthias Haeker

Hi

i received a Spam Email with an  Excel File as Atachment 


may some one want to have a look on a sample

http://its-h.de/spam_sample/xls_spam.txt


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Screwed up Perl install [OT]

2007-07-21 Thread Marc Perkel
If I have a machine with a screwed up perl configuration, some installed 
in /usr/lib/perl5 and some in /usr/local/lib/perl5, is there any easy 
way to get everything back under /usr/lib/perl5 without starting over? 
Running Fedora Core 6.


Thanks in Advance



RE: Screwed up Perl install [OT]

2007-07-21 Thread Michael Scheidell

 -Original Message-
 From: Marc Perkel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 12:14 PM
 To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
 Subject: Screwed up Perl install [OT]
 
 
 If I have a machine with a screwed up perl configuration, 
 some installed 
 in /usr/lib/perl5 and some in /usr/local/lib/perl5, is there any easy 
 way to get everything back under /usr/lib/perl5 without 
 starting over? 

After tarballing /usr/lib/perl5...

Some careful use of rsync and -u and -n flags might be fun.

 Running Fedora Core 6.
 
 Thanks in Advance
 
 
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Bye for good FuzzyOCR

2007-07-21 Thread arni

Hi,

i just uninstalled FuzzyOCR from my system as it seems like its become 
out of fashion to send those spam images that FuzzyOCR can read and I 
noticed that I dont even need it to get the remaining imagespam above a 
score of 10.


Thanks alot to the author, the plugin was great when imagespam was on a 
high and no good rules existed to bust them through metadata ;-)


arni


Re: Bye for good FuzzyOCR

2007-07-21 Thread Spamassassin List
i just uninstalled FuzzyOCR from my system as it seems like its become 
out of fashion to send those spam images that FuzzyOCR can read and I 
noticed that I dont even need it to get the remaining imagespam above a 
score of 10.


Thanks alot to the author, the plugin was great when imagespam was on a 
high and no good rules existed to bust them through metadata ;-)


So what are u using now?


RE: DKIM vs DomainKeys plugins

2007-07-21 Thread Michael Scheidell


 -Original Message-
 From: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 10:38 PM
 To: Michael Scheidell
 Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org
 Subject: Re: DKIM vs DomainKeys plugins
 

 However, AFAIK, the DKIM versions of the rules should fire in 
 the place of the DK_* rules.
 

SHOULD, as in RFC's? :-)

(doesn't.. Actually) but when I get a chance I'll troubleshoot it and
make a PR

Does anyone have any emails from yahoo? They all have domainkeys.

How is your dkim/domainkeys set up? What rules triggered?

Or is this just me?
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Re: Screwed up Perl install [OT]

2007-07-21 Thread Bob Proulx
Marc Perkel wrote:
 If I have a machine with a screwed up perl configuration, some installed 
 in /usr/lib/perl5 and some in /usr/local/lib/perl5, is there any easy 
 way to get everything back under /usr/lib/perl5 without starting over? 
 Running Fedora Core 6.

On my system and I believe on FC too but you should check, a stock
system has no files in the /usr/local tree at all.  This means that
you can simply remove all files from there and return the system to a
stock state, with regards to that directory hierarchy.

  find /usr/local -type f -print

Bob


Re: Bye for good FuzzyOCR

2007-07-21 Thread arni

Spamassassin List schrieb:
i just uninstalled FuzzyOCR from my system as it seems like its 
become out of fashion to send those spam images that FuzzyOCR can 
read and I noticed that I dont even need it to get the remaining 
imagespam above a score of 10.


Thanks alot to the author, the plugin was great when imagespam was on 
a high and no good rules existed to bust them through metadata ;-)


So what are u using now?

HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_XX, SHORT_HELO_AND_INLINE_IMAGE, DC_IMAGE_SPAM_TEXT, 
DC_IMAGE_SPAM_HTML, DC_GIF_UNO_LARGO, SARE_GIF_ATTACH together with 
botnet, bayes and other standard rules is enough to bring all my image 
spam to above 10 points, even without cpu intensive FuzzyOCR.


I'm not recieving much of it anymore anyways.

arni


Re: Sa-update question

2007-07-21 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Sat, Jul 21, 2007 at 05:10:49AM -0400, Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote:
 Now, I can presume to delete any earlier v3xx.pre files I guess.
 No.

More specifically, the other pre files load other plugins.  You can never just
assume to delete config files unless you fully know that they're not being
used for anything.

In SA's case, it reads *.pre not just v320.pre.

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Re: Include directives in user_prefs was Whitelist of my friends -- followup

2007-07-21 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Sat, Jul 21, 2007 at 10:37:01AM -0500, Igor Chudov wrote:
 Can I somehow specify an include directive in my user_prefs file, such
 as include my_friends.cf?

Did you look at perldoc Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf ?  :)

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Re: Bye for good FuzzyOCR

2007-07-21 Thread Spamassassin List

Spamassassin List schrieb:
i just uninstalled FuzzyOCR from my system as it seems like its 
become out of fashion to send those spam images that FuzzyOCR can 
read and I noticed that I dont even need it to get the remaining 
imagespam above a score of 10.


Thanks alot to the author, the plugin was great when imagespam was on 
a high and no good rules existed to bust them through metadata ;-)


So what are u using now?

HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_XX, SHORT_HELO_AND_INLINE_IMAGE, DC_IMAGE_SPAM_TEXT, 
DC_IMAGE_SPAM_HTML, DC_GIF_UNO_LARGO, SARE_GIF_ATTACH together with 
botnet, bayes and other standard rules is enough to bring all my image 
spam to above 10 points, even without cpu intensive FuzzyOCR.


I'm not recieving much of it anymore anyways.


How do u get  DC_IMAGE_SPAM_HTML, DC_GIF_UNO_LARGO?

Using ImageInfo?



Re: Bye for good FuzzyOCR

2007-07-21 Thread arni

Spamassassin List schrieb:

Spamassassin List schrieb:
i just uninstalled FuzzyOCR from my system as it seems like its 
become out of fashion to send those spam images that FuzzyOCR can 
read and I noticed that I dont even need it to get the remaining 
imagespam above a score of 10.


Thanks alot to the author, the plugin was great when imagespam was 
on a high and no good rules existed to bust them through metadata ;-)


So what are u using now?

HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_XX, SHORT_HELO_AND_INLINE_IMAGE, DC_IMAGE_SPAM_TEXT, 
DC_IMAGE_SPAM_HTML, DC_GIF_UNO_LARGO, SARE_GIF_ATTACH together with 
botnet, bayes and other standard rules is enough to bring all my 
image spam to above 10 points, even without cpu intensive FuzzyOCR.


I'm not recieving much of it anymore anyways.


How do u get  DC_IMAGE_SPAM_HTML, DC_GIF_UNO_LARGO?

Using ImageInfo?

must be on updates.spamassassin.org or saupdates.openprotect.com, 
otherwise i wouldnt have them


arni


Re: Bye for good FuzzyOCR

2007-07-21 Thread Spamassassin List

Spamassassin List schrieb:

Spamassassin List schrieb:
i just uninstalled FuzzyOCR from my system as it seems like its 
become out of fashion to send those spam images that FuzzyOCR can 
read and I noticed that I dont even need it to get the remaining 
imagespam above a score of 10.


Thanks alot to the author, the plugin was great when imagespam was 
on a high and no good rules existed to bust them through metadata ;-)


So what are u using now?

HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_XX, SHORT_HELO_AND_INLINE_IMAGE, DC_IMAGE_SPAM_TEXT, 
DC_IMAGE_SPAM_HTML, DC_GIF_UNO_LARGO, SARE_GIF_ATTACH together with 
botnet, bayes and other standard rules is enough to bring all my 
image spam to above 10 points, even without cpu intensive FuzzyOCR.


I'm not recieving much of it anymore anyways.


How do u get  DC_IMAGE_SPAM_HTML, DC_GIF_UNO_LARGO?

Using ImageInfo?

must be on updates.spamassassin.org or saupdates.openprotect.com, 
otherwise i wouldnt have them


Thanks


Re: DKIM vs DomainKeys plugins

2007-07-21 Thread Bill Landry
Michael Scheidell wrote the following on 7/21/2007 10:07 AM -0800:
   
 -Original Message-
 From: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 10:38 PM
 To: Michael Scheidell
 Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org
 Subject: Re: DKIM vs DomainKeys plugins

 

   
 However, AFAIK, the DKIM versions of the rules should fire in 
 the place of the DK_* rules.

 

 SHOULD, as in RFC's? :-)

 (doesn't.. Actually) but when I get a chance I'll troubleshoot it and
 make a PR

 Does anyone have any emails from yahoo? They all have domainkeys.

 How is your dkim/domainkeys set up? What rules triggered?

 Or is this just me?

I only use the DKIM SA plugin now with the latest Mail::DKIM perl module
(version 0.26), which supports validation of both DK  DKIM signature,
and with this, both DK  DKIM hits will both show up as DKIM hits.  Test
from yahoo (uses DK signature only):

X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.263 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.892, BAYES_00=-2.599,
BOTNET_SERVERWORDS=-0.5, DKIM_SIGNED=0.001, DKIM_VERIFIED=-0.001,
IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, L_P0F_D9=-0.4, L_P0F_Unix=-1,
RCVD_IN_MXRATE_WL=-1, RELAY_US=0.01]
X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: FreeBSD 4.7-5.2 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.4) (2) (up: 1800
hrs), (distance 9, link: ethernet/modem), [69.147.95.82]
Received: from smtp119.plus.mail.sp1.yahoo.com (smtp119.plus.mail.sp1.yahoo.com 
[69.147.95.82])
by mail.inetmsg.com (INetMsg Mail Service) with SMTP id 980546D0C45
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 21 Jul 2007 13:36:17 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 56102 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2007 20:36:17 -
DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws;
  s=s1024; d=yahoo.com;
  
h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding;
  
b=KyMFQ/KnTUWMW4INZwzDVKi1jpqcixQQiBodqZ4fnptqcvbdAXR3/R/tYDU3Lvh+dLdoRtwLWm+zXgi50Q9K9xyOhL+HdZBoNkU1Tepe5udc6yJxWdEGzLi7VQrdoUYQwM4oDH+4DrtyO2HRzE0by3OdxY53OWwSAW23ebmflvE=
  ;


Test from gmail (which now uses both DK  DKIM signatures):

X-Spam-Score: -4.563
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.563 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.273, BAYES_00=-2.599,
DKIM_SIGNED=0.001, DKIM_VERIFIED=-0.001, L_P0F_D16=-0.2,
L_P0F_Linux=-0.5, RCVD_IN_MXRATE_WL=-1, RELAY_US=0.01,
SPF_PASS=-0.001]
X-Amavis-OS-Fingerprint: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) (firewall!) [high throughput]
(up: 7718 hrs), (distance 16, link: (Google 2)), [209.85.146.177]
Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.177])
by mail.inetmsg.com (INetMsg Mail Service) with ESMTP id 1373F6D0C46
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 21 Jul 2007 13:35:57 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id l24so1615659waf
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 21 Jul 2007 13:35:56 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed;
d=gmail.com; s=beta;

h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding;

b=A9KjJ1nUil/AqVtycDlwIKYfKE1clx5MkEnB5RkRgiTwLXBnPsSxSDRDuuypTQIHFfS93z/ypCuxZbqQ7eTrc+JLmRfyAN5vlZuo5vtjDXX8p4PTh5WtGw52c22ar72dpn6zYXTrnQhdxQT+BTfgpm+Qg6JSEpWrS8uHLEInooM=
DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws;
d=gmail.com; s=beta;

h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding;

b=MLl9a61usX0iHxBuGV0Jgx0kIxfegRla6Rh6Xn/TODe+kpYt1afI8Cxkyum9ltKPlTHJK5xbmPpZtGJEE3eEq178fQ8sBx96xxMeyG4/KUhBbZaNeumG4oZoiTO7vDh5CXIBNG6zO/dL8wjdbpO0Po013J3kqBDQPHMnJj+B488=


Bill



Re: not everyone is happy with SA

2007-07-21 Thread Nix
On 20 Jul 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake thusly:
 Um, captcha? Then I'd doubly never respond to the abortion. It wasted
 bandwidth on the captcha AND I CANNOT READ THE CAPTCHA IN PLAIN TEXT.

 I use plain text for security reasons.

What, are you worried about Langford basilisks?

More significant is the disability problem, and the problem that
spammers have long since defeated captcha anyway (what you do is, you
put up the captcha images on a nasty porn site run by your affiliate and
the drooling masses fill them in for you).


New PDF?

2007-07-21 Thread WebTent
I have a few PDF's getting through now after doing pretty good, the
latest 0.4 pdfinfo + sa 3.1.7 + sare rules + sa-update is not scoring
enough on these:

http://esmtp.webtent.net/mail1.txt
http://esmtp.webtent.net/mail2.txt

Do I need to tweak my rules scores to catch or is someone else able to
block these otherwise? All of these seem to hit the same two rules,
would it be OK to test for only those two rules and block or raise their
score, or would that hit too much ham?

 0.6 GMD_PDF_ENCRYPTED  BODY: Attached PDF is encrypted
 1.0 TVD_PDF_FINGER01   Mail matches standard pdf spam fingerprint

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Re: New PDF?

2007-07-21 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Sat, Jul 21, 2007 at 06:52:14PM -0400, WebTent wrote:
 Do I need to tweak my rules scores to catch or is someone else able to
 block these otherwise? All of these seem to hit the same two rules,
 would it be OK to test for only those two rules and block or raise their
 score, or would that hit too much ham?
 
  0.6 GMD_PDF_ENCRYPTED  BODY: Attached PDF is encrypted
  1.0 TVD_PDF_FINGER01   Mail matches standard pdf spam fingerprint

I don't know what the first rule is so have no information about its hit
rates.  The second one hits 0 ham in the SA nightly test runs.  If you aren't
likely to receive legit mails in a similar format, feel free to up that score.

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Re: Spam Du Jour ? *.XLS

2007-07-21 Thread Robert Schetterer
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Yet Another Ninja schrieb:
 LOL
 
 investors news-76212.xls, et all
 
 no real challenge
 
jep , got 3 xls spams today

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Mit freundlichen Gruessen
Best Regards

Robert Schetterer

https://www.schetterer.org
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Re: Spam Du Jour ? *.XLS

2007-07-21 Thread Chr. v. Stuckrad
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007, Robert Schetterer wrote:

  investors news-76212.xls, et all
  
  no real challenge
  
 jep , got 3 xls spams today

well, here too,

but I think soon we'll get the whole mix ...
a combinatoric explosion of envelope formats
and content variants, meaning
 'any windows-showable-fileformat' *
 'all the already known picture-tricks embedded'

Anybody working on generic detectors yet?
(I really would like to plug that (w)hole :-)

Something like amavis or clamav to first unpack
and then spamassassin to analyze it?

Stucki


Re: Sa-update question

2007-07-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 21 July 2007, Theo Van Dinter wrote:
On Sat, Jul 21, 2007 at 05:10:49AM -0400, Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote:
 Now, I can presume to delete any earlier v3xx.pre files I guess.

 No.

More specifically, the other pre files load other plugins.  You can never
 just assume to delete config files unless you fully know that they're not
 being used for anything.

In SA's case, it reads *.pre not just v320.pre.

So I've been made to understand now, thanks.  I hadn't deleted them yet 
pending an affirmative answer.

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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order.
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Re: Spam Du Jour ? *.XLS

2007-07-21 Thread d.hill

On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 01:55:20 +0200
 Chr. v. Stuckrad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sun, 22 Jul 2007, Robert Schetterer wrote:


 investors news-76212.xls, et all
 
 no real challenge
 
jep , got 3 xls spams today


well, here too,

but I think soon we'll get the whole mix ...
a combinatoric explosion of envelope formats
and content variants, meaning
'any windows-showable-fileformat' *
'all the already known picture-tricks embedded'

Anybody working on generic detectors yet?
(I really would like to plug that (w)hole :-)

Something like amavis or clamav to first unpack
and then spamassassin to analyze it?

Stucki


You might also want to keep in mind if some versions of 
Outlook are being
used to generate these spams, you could start seeing just 
a winmail.dat
attachment. This would indicate a message was generated in 
RTF (rich text

format). See:

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TNEF

If that's the case, non Outlook users won't be able to 
open the attachments
period. That is unless they have loaded the proper tools 
to extract what's

inside.


DNS Perl Help? [ot]

2007-07-21 Thread Marc Perkel
OK - I'm not experienced at Perl by trying to do something that should 
be fairly simple for those of you who are good at it.


I need a subroutine that I can pass and IP address to. It will do a 
reverse DNS lookup and get a hostname. Then lookup the hostname to 
verify that one of the IP addresses it returns matched the IP that was 
looked up. Return the host name if it succeeds ot an empty string if not.


How do you do that?

I'm building what will be an impressive public DNS blacklist/whitelist 
which I will share when it's working.


Thanks in advance.

Oh - also.

If I have a string, what's that fastest way to count the number of 
periods in the string?




Re: Include directives in user_prefs was Whitelist of my friends -- followup

2007-07-21 Thread Matt Kettler
Theo Van Dinter wrote:
 On Sat, Jul 21, 2007 at 10:37:01AM -0500, Igor Chudov wrote:
   
 Can I somehow specify an include directive in my user_prefs file, such
 as include my_friends.cf?
 

 Did you look at perldoc Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf ?  :)

   
To be a bit more specific, yes, that exact option exists and is in the
docs, at least for 3.0.x and higher.

Exact text from the 3.2 docs:



  PREPROCESSING OPTIONS

*include filename*
Include configuration lines from |filename|

http://spamassassin.apache.org/full/3.2.x/doc/Mail_SpamAssassin_Conf.html#item_filename.
Relative paths are considered relative to the current configuration
file or user preferences file.