Re: sought rules

2009-12-02 Thread Bob Proulx
Justin Mason wrote:
> unfortunately my house renovation is taking longer than planned, and
> my net access outside work, at the moment, consists of an iPhone!

Construction always takes longer than people plan it to take.  It is
rather like software in that regard!

> Working on anything this way is not particularly practical...

Don't worry about it further.  You have your task queue full already.

Thanks for the update!

Bob


OT: Christmas Gift ideas

2009-12-02 Thread rich...@buzzhost.co.uk
This is top of my list.. 

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Constant-Contact-Guide-email-Marketing/dp/0470503416/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1259777127&sr=8-1



Re: Undisclosed recipients :; -- again

2009-12-02 Thread Philip A. Prindeville
On 11/30/2009 03:15 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
> On 27.11.09 14:04, Philip A. Prindeville wrote:
>   
>> for the ruleset:
>> 
>   
>> header __L_UNDISCLOSED1 To:raw =~ /undisclosed-recipients: ;/
>> 
> just FYI, sendmail can be configured to do different things when To: is
> missing - there's sendmail option NoRecipientAction, configured by setting
> confNO_RCPT_ACTION m4 directive. The default value is "none" but e.g. Debian
> was setting it to "add-to-undisclosed" which causes MISSING_HEADERS not
> hitting (only from milter, which appears to be called before the headers are
> "fixed").
>
> Maybe you should look at your MTA's configuratioon options if it doesn't
> cause different rules hitting/not hitting, e.g. sendmail adds Date: and
> Message-Id headers which cause MISSING_DATE and MISSING_MID. I was not able
> to find how disable this behaviour in sendmail.
>
>   

Odd.  This is on FC11:

[r...@mail mail]# grep confNO_RCPT_ACTION /usr/share/sendmail-cf/*/*
/usr/share/sendmail-cf/m4/proto.m4:_OPTION(NoRecipientAction, 
`confNO_RCPT_ACTION', `none')
[r...@mail mail]# grep NoRecipientAction *.cf
sendmail.cf:#O NoRecipientAction=none
submit.cf:#O NoRecipientAction=none
[r...@mail mail]# 

Added:

define(`confNO_RCPT_ACTION', `none')dnl


to the sendmail.mc, made sendmail.cf, did a service restart... will see what 
happens.

I can't remember: if an option is commented, is that showing us the default 
value typically?

-Philip




Re: send spam messages to spam folder

2009-12-02 Thread Thomas Harold

On 12/2/2009 7:06 AM, Walter Breno wrote:

Hi!
I'm using postfix with mailscanner to integrate spamassassin and clamav,
but when spamassassin score a message as spam the subject of the message
is chagnged to {Spam?} subject and i want to send every message that
spamassasin mark directly to the spam folder.
PS.: i'm using cyrus-sasl


We use Dovecot as our LDA along with server-side sieve scripts to 
auto-sort messages that score above N into an IMAP Junk folder.


Client-side, it's generally pretty easy to do something similar. 
Thunderbird already has a checkbox in Account Options that lets it trust 
SA headers (under Junk settings).  In other mail clients, you're going 
to have to write a rule that looks for X-SpamFlag being equal to "YES".


(Either way, SA just marks the message with the X-Spam-* headers and 
leaves the rest of the handling up to the mail server or the email 
client.  So you may need to ask on the Cyrus mailing list as to exactly 
how to do server-side sorting.)


The sieve script might look something like (it only moves messages where 
the score is >= 10.0, and avoids the negative sign problem by also 
checking X-Spam-Flag):


require ["comparator-i;ascii-numeric","fileinto","relational"];
if allof (
header :contains "X-Spam-Flag" "YES",
header :value "ge" :comparator "i;ascii-numeric" ["X-Spam-Score"] 
["10"]

) {
fileinto "Junk";
stop;
}


Re: send spam messages to spam folder

2009-12-02 Thread Mariusz Kruk
On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 09:06 -0300, Walter Breno wrote:
> I'm using postfix with mailscanner to integrate spamassassin and
> clamav, but when spamassassin score a message as spam the subject of
> the message is chagnged to {Spam?} subject and i want to send every
> message that spamassasin mark directly to the spam folder.

It's not up to SA. SA only marks the message. It's MDA (usually
procmail) who should act based on that information (for example by
putting it into a specific folder).

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send spam messages to spam folder

2009-12-02 Thread Walter Breno
Hi!
I'm using postfix with mailscanner to integrate spamassassin and clamav, but
when spamassassin score a message as spam the subject of the message is
chagnged to {Spam?} subject and i want to send every message that
spamassasin mark directly to the spam folder.
PS.: i'm using cyrus-sasl


Re: sought rules

2009-12-02 Thread Justin Mason
Hi all -

I'm afraid the sought rules, and generally most of my time to work on
SA, is still on a bit of a hiatus due to circumstances out of my
control :(

unfortunately my house renovation is taking longer than planned, and
my net access outside work, at the moment, consists of an iPhone!

Working on anything this way is not particularly practical...




On Wednesday, December 2, 2009, Bob Proulx  wrote:
> Hi Justin,
>
>> Right now I'm not likely to be able to perform more investigation for a week
>> or two. :(
>
> Any word on your sought rules?  They were working so well for me that
> I miss them now that they aren't getting updated!  Good stuff.
>
>> Sorry about this -- the perils of volunteer infrastructure!
>
> I don't want to be annoying or be a trouble maker.  I just became
> impatient and decided I would ask about them!  :-)
>
> Thanks!
> Bob
>
>

-- 
--j.


Re: HABEAS_ACCREDITED SPAMMER

2009-12-02 Thread rich...@buzzhost.co.uk
On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 15:06 -0700, J.D. Falk wrote:
> On Nov 30, 2009, at 12:38 PM, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote:
> 
> > So please, spare me the sob story about what a wonderful idea HABEAS is.
> > Talk is cheap, action speaks louder than words.
> 
> Who's sobbing?  I'm merely explaining how it works today.
> 
> If you disagree with a particular entry on either the (formerly Habeas) Safe 
> list or the Certified list, we've made it extremely easy for you to tell the 
> people who operate those lists.  Hint: insulting me on this mailing list has 
> no effect.
> 
It's far easier to invert the action and use it as a block list. As for
insulting you - grow up. You work in the business of sending unwanted
junk email. If I were to share with you my thoughts on what I would like
to do to someone like you, I'd be locked up again.
> --
> J.D. Falk 
> Return Path Inc
> 
> 
> 
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