Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-19 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 18.02.10 09:56, tonjg wrote:
 well this has certainly thrown a spanner in the works and I don't know what
 to do next. I was under the impression that sa was scanning my mail and red
 flagging any spams, then mimedefang would kick in rejecting the email at
 smtp. I'm completely confused now

It's apparent that it's mimedefang who takes care of spam checking, ans so
it's mimedefang's business to take care of autolearn. Now, search mimedefang
FAQ, mailing list, forum or any similar place for autolearing info.

   $ grep add_header 10_default_prefs.cf
 
 # grep add_header 10_default_prefs.cf
 grep: 10_default_prefs.cf: No such file or directory

first try switching to directory where the sulr files atre stored!

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Re: Why does svn update pull in Mail-SpamAssassin-3.4.0.tar.gz?

2010-02-19 Thread jidanni
Maybe I accidentally did 'make dist'. OK, never mind.


Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-19 Thread tonjg


Jari Fredriksson wrote:
 
 That is not the recipe I meant. That calls SA yes, but does not
 reject. I can't provide a recipe for procmail as I personally use
 maildrop, but the recipe that is needed is one filing the spam to a spam
 folder (or /dev/null).

the golden rule for my server is that spam is not diverted to any folder.
Spam gets rejected at smtp. Is that what you meant by overkill?

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Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-19 Thread Jari Fredriksson
On 19.2.2010 12:42, tonjg wrote:
 
 
 Jari Fredriksson wrote:

 That is not the recipe I meant. That calls SA yes, but does not
 reject. I can't provide a recipe for procmail as I personally use
 maildrop, but the recipe that is needed is one filing the spam to a spam
 folder (or /dev/null).
 
 the golden rule for my server is that spam is not diverted to any folder.
 Spam gets rejected at smtp. Is that what you meant by overkill?
 

No, if you want it really rejected at smtp time, the solution is OK for it.

My lighter approach would have been a spam folder for spam but it does
not serve your purposes.

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Re: Yahoo Feedback Loop - off topic

2010-02-19 Thread Jeff Koch



The only large ISP that seems to have an FBL friendly approach is AOL.
We've been on their FBL for years. If anyone knows of another ISP with a
friendly FBL I'd love to know.

At 01:05 AM 2/19/2010, ram wrote:
On Thu, 2010-02-18 at 12:17 -0800,
J.D. Falk wrote: 


On Feb 14, 2010, at 10:31 PM, ram wrote:

 Anyway ReturnPath operates FBL's for yahoo and they provide IP
address based feedback loops at Cox etc
 I dont know why this diff for yahoo.

Because that's how Yahoo! wants it.

There are a lot of advantages to routing feedback by authenticated
domain: ease of maintenance, survives forwarding, et cetera.

But for an ISP this is so painful. 
Every new customer who comes on board you have to ask them to dkim sign
their mails or sign them on their behalf. Setting up the FBL on behalf of
the customer is another pain
And anyway for the spams which dont get signed ( for eg using a direct
relay with a compromised account ) you may be relaying the spams
inadvertently on the outbound , but never get FBL's until all the world
blacklists you 








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J.D. Falk
jdf...@returnpath.net
Return Path Inc






Best Regards,
Jeff Koch, Intersessions




Re: Yahoo Feedback Loop - off topic

2010-02-19 Thread J.D. Falk
On Feb 18, 2010, at 10:05 PM, ram wrote:

 But for an ISP this is so painful. 

That's why they do it by IP for ISPs (if you ask them, and get a 
correctly-trained customer service agent.)

--
J.D. Falk jdf...@returnpath.net
Return Path Inc






Re: v3.3.x Rule installs/updates from updates.spamassassin.org sought.rules.yerp.org FAIL @ dns query (NXDOMAIN); other channels resolve work fine.

2010-02-19 Thread Ben DJ
2010/2/15 Daryl C. W. O'Shea spamassas...@dostech.ca:
 Yeah.  That'll be corrected RSN.

Great. Atm,

 dig +short -t TXT 1.3.3.updates.spamassassin.org
  903765

Just to be clear, this^^^ will be the channel used by spamassassin's
sa-update from SVN 3.3.x branch, correct?

Thanks.

BendDJ


Yahoo FBL - Off Topic - Part One

2010-02-19 Thread Jeff Koch


HI JD:

What I particularly find amusing is this email saying they have an ISP 
program followed by the next one I'm going to send you.


BTW - I have made several attempts to escalate this issue about getting on 
the ISP FBL to no avail. If you know a real live person at Yahoo and can 
give me a contact name I would appreciate it.


Jeff




Delivered-To: intersessions.com-jeffk...@intersessions.com
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on
pegasus.avspamfilter.com
X-Spam-Level: *
X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.8 required=5.0 tests=RDNS_NONE,URI_HEX autolearn=no
version=3.2.4
X-Spam-Report:
*  1.3 URI_HEX URI: URI hostname has long hexadecimal sequence
*  0.5 RDNS_NONE Delivered to trusted network by a host with no rDNS
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 09:11:56 -0800
To: Jeff Koch jeffk...@intersessions.com
Subject: Re: CFL Application  (KMM104380179V81098L0KM)
From: Yahoo! Mail abuse-ad...@cc.yahoo-inc.com
Reply-To: Yahoo! Mail abuse-ad...@cc.yahoo-inc.com
X-Mailer: KANA Response 7.0.1.142.15

Hello Jeffrey,

Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Mail.

Thank you for your interest in Yahoo! Mail's Complaint Feedback Loop
program.

An Internet Service Provider (ISP) who wishes to participate in the
Complaint Feedback Loop program can do so even if they are not signing
their outbound email with DomainKeys or DKIM. Available only to ISPs, we
do offer a feedback loop that is based on the provider's sending IP
addresses or CIDR ranges.

If you represent an ISP that is interested in signing up to our
Complaint Feedback Loop program, you may register by going to:

   http://feedbackloop.yahoo.net

Once you have completed your registration, please fill out our request
form with the required information so we can review your eligibility and
possible inclusion in the program. This form can be found at:

   http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/mail/postmaster/cfl_app.html

Note: When completing your registration, please provide your corporate
email address during the registration process.

Thank you again for contacting Yahoo! Mail. Your case number for this
issue is 68500664. Please reference it in all future communication about
this particular issue.

Regards,

Frank

Yahoo! Customer Care

68500664




Original Message Follows:
-

Mail-Id:
w1.help.re1.yahoo.com-/l/us/yahoo/mail/postmaster/cfl_app.html-126601230
8-62

1.  What is your name?
--
  Name: Jeffrey Koch

2.  What is your email address?
---
  Email Address: jeffk...@intersessions.com

  Confirm your email address: jeffk...@intersessions.com

3.  What is your company's name?

  Company Name: Intersessions Inc

4.  What is the URL for your company's web site?

  Company web site: http://www.Intersessions.com

5.  Please describe your company

  Select one: ISP

6.  If you selected other as the description of your company, please
tell us how you would describe your company.


---
  Not set by user

7.  Do you sign your emails with DomainKeys and/or DKIM?

  DomainKeys/DKIM: Neither

8.  Do you have an existing account at our Complaint Feedback Loop
site?


-
  Registered: Yes

9.  What domains (or IPs for ISPs) are you contacting us about?
---
  74.220.16.1/24
74.220.23.1/24

10.  Please tell us what your concern/request is.
-
  Subject: We are an ISP interested in the IP-based program

11.  Enter any additional information here:
---
  Not set by user

While Viewing:

Last URL: ://

Form Name: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/mail/postmaster/cfl_app.html

Yahoo ID:

Other ID:

Machine: Unknown

OS: unknown

Browser: Mozilla 1.9

REMOTE_ADDR: 24.187.176.53

REMOTE_HOST: ool-18bbb035.dyn.optonline.net

Date Originated: Friday February 12, 2010 - 14:05:08

Cookies: enabled

AOL: no

---


Best Regards,

Jeff Koch, Intersessions 



Yahoo FBL - Part Two

2010-02-19 Thread Jeff Koch


JD - and after spending an hour registering and filling out forms I finally 
get this email. Sweet!


Jeff



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X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on
pegasus.avspamfilter.com
X-Spam-Level: *
X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.8 required=5.0 tests=RDNS_NONE,URI_HEX autolearn=no
version=3.2.4
X-Spam-Report:
*  1.3 URI_HEX URI: URI hostname has long hexadecimal sequence
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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 08:54:46 -0800
To: Jeff Koch jeffk...@intersessions.com
Subject: Re: CFL Application  (KMM104418975V66474L0KM)
From: Yahoo! Mail abuse-ad...@cc.yahoo-inc.com
Reply-To: Yahoo! Mail abuse-ad...@cc.yahoo-inc.com
X-Mailer: KANA Response 7.0.1.142.15

Hello Jeffrey,

Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Mail.

Thank you for your interest in Yahoo! Mail's Complaint Feedback Loop
program.

Senders who wish to participate in the Complaint Feedback Loop program
are required to sign their outbound email with DomainKeys and/or DKIM,
both of which are email authentication technologies that Yahoo! Mail
utilizes to determine the actual sender of an email. (We do not offer
feedback loops based on a sender's IP addresses or CIDR ranges.)

If you are already signing your outbound emails with DomainKeys and/or
DKIM, you may enroll in the program by going to:

   http://feedbackloop.yahoo.net

For each selector/domain pair you want to enroll in the program, you
will need to click on a URL in the verification email which we will send
you. The completion of this verification process is necessary to
activate any domain for the feedback loop. You will be given an option
to receive the verification email at either of these role addresses:
abuse@yourdomain or postmaster@yourdomain.

Note: If you have yet to utilize domain-based email authentication, we
encourage you to consider DKIM, which is the successor to DomainKeys.
You may read more about DKIM at:

   http://dkim.org

Thank you again for contacting Yahoo! Mail. Your case number for this
issue is 68524040. Please reference it in all future communication about
this particular issue.

Regards,

Hank

Yahoo! Customer Care

68524040




Original Message Follows:
-

Mail-Id:
w1.help.re1.yahoo.com-/l/us/yahoo/mail/postmaster/cfl_app.html-126609396
8-2206

1.  What is your name?
--
  Name: Jeffrey Koch

2.  What is your email address?
---
  Email Address: jeffk...@intersessions.com

  Confirm your email address: jeffk...@intersessions.com

3.  What is your company's name?

  Company Name: Intersessions Inc

4.  What is the URL for your company's web site?

  Company web site: http://www.Intersessions.com

5.  Please describe your company

  Select one: Email Service Provider

6.  If you selected other as the description of your company, please
tell us how you would describe your company.


---
  Not set by user

7.  Do you sign your emails with DomainKeys and/or DKIM?

  DomainKeys/DKIM: Neither

8.  Do you have an existing account at our Complaint Feedback Loop
site?


-
  Registered: Yes

9.  What domains (or IPs for ISPs) are you contacting us about?
---
  74.220.16.1 - 255
74.220.23.1 - 255

10.  Please tell us what your concern/request is.
-
  Subject: We are an ISP interested in the IP-based program

11.  Enter any additional information here:
---
  Not set by user

While Viewing:

Last URL: ://

Form Name: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/mail/postmaster/cfl_app.html

Yahoo ID:

Other ID:

Machine: Unknown

OS: unknown

Browser: Mozilla 1.9

REMOTE_ADDR: 24.187.176.53

REMOTE_HOST: ool-18bbb035.dyn.optonline.net

Date Originated: Saturday February 13, 2010 - 12:46:08

Cookies: enabled

AOL: no

---


Best Regards,

Jeff Koch, Intersessions 



Re: v3.3.x Rule installs/updates from updates.spamassassin.org sought.rules.yerp.org FAIL @ dns query (NXDOMAIN); other channels resolve work fine.

2010-02-19 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
On 19/02/2010 12:37 PM, Ben DJ wrote:
 2010/2/15 Daryl C. W. O'Shea spamassas...@dostech.ca:
 Yeah.  That'll be corrected RSN.
 
 Great. Atm,
 
  dig +short -t TXT 1.3.3.updates.spamassassin.org
   903765
 
 Just to be clear, this^^^ will be the channel used by spamassassin's
 sa-update from SVN 3.3.x branch, correct?

Yeah, at least until the branch version number increments to 3.3.2,
3.3.3, etc.

Daryl



cmpgnr.com - spammer or not?

2010-02-19 Thread Marc Perkel
I got a request to remove cmpgnr.com for my black list. Are these people 
legit?