Re: is bayes learning?
On 18.02.10 09:56, tonjg wrote: well this has certainly thrown a spanner in the works and I don't know what to do next. I was under the impression that sa was scanning my mail and red flagging any spams, then mimedefang would kick in rejecting the email at smtp. I'm completely confused now It's apparent that it's mimedefang who takes care of spam checking, ans so it's mimedefang's business to take care of autolearn. Now, search mimedefang FAQ, mailing list, forum or any similar place for autolearing info. $ grep add_header 10_default_prefs.cf # grep add_header 10_default_prefs.cf grep: 10_default_prefs.cf: No such file or directory first try switching to directory where the sulr files atre stored! -- Matus UHLAR - fantomas, uh...@fantomas.sk ; http://www.fantomas.sk/ Warning: I wish NOT to receive e-mail advertising to this address. Varovanie: na tuto adresu chcem NEDOSTAVAT akukolvek reklamnu postu. Depression is merely anger without enthusiasm.
Re: Why does svn update pull in Mail-SpamAssassin-3.4.0.tar.gz?
Maybe I accidentally did 'make dist'. OK, never mind.
Re: is bayes learning?
Jari Fredriksson wrote: That is not the recipe I meant. That calls SA yes, but does not reject. I can't provide a recipe for procmail as I personally use maildrop, but the recipe that is needed is one filing the spam to a spam folder (or /dev/null). the golden rule for my server is that spam is not diverted to any folder. Spam gets rejected at smtp. Is that what you meant by overkill? -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/is-bayes-learning--tp27616380p27652339.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: is bayes learning?
On 19.2.2010 12:42, tonjg wrote: Jari Fredriksson wrote: That is not the recipe I meant. That calls SA yes, but does not reject. I can't provide a recipe for procmail as I personally use maildrop, but the recipe that is needed is one filing the spam to a spam folder (or /dev/null). the golden rule for my server is that spam is not diverted to any folder. Spam gets rejected at smtp. Is that what you meant by overkill? No, if you want it really rejected at smtp time, the solution is OK for it. My lighter approach would have been a spam folder for spam but it does not serve your purposes. -- http://www.iki.fi/jarif/ One of the most striking differences between a cat and a lie is that a cat has only nine lives. -- Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Yahoo Feedback Loop - off topic
The only large ISP that seems to have an FBL friendly approach is AOL. We've been on their FBL for years. If anyone knows of another ISP with a friendly FBL I'd love to know. At 01:05 AM 2/19/2010, ram wrote: On Thu, 2010-02-18 at 12:17 -0800, J.D. Falk wrote: On Feb 14, 2010, at 10:31 PM, ram wrote: Anyway ReturnPath operates FBL's for yahoo and they provide IP address based feedback loops at Cox etc I dont know why this diff for yahoo. Because that's how Yahoo! wants it. There are a lot of advantages to routing feedback by authenticated domain: ease of maintenance, survives forwarding, et cetera. But for an ISP this is so painful. Every new customer who comes on board you have to ask them to dkim sign their mails or sign them on their behalf. Setting up the FBL on behalf of the customer is another pain And anyway for the spams which dont get signed ( for eg using a direct relay with a compromised account ) you may be relaying the spams inadvertently on the outbound , but never get FBL's until all the world blacklists you -- J.D. Falk jdf...@returnpath.net Return Path Inc Best Regards, Jeff Koch, Intersessions
Re: Yahoo Feedback Loop - off topic
On Feb 18, 2010, at 10:05 PM, ram wrote: But for an ISP this is so painful. That's why they do it by IP for ISPs (if you ask them, and get a correctly-trained customer service agent.) -- J.D. Falk jdf...@returnpath.net Return Path Inc
Re: v3.3.x Rule installs/updates from updates.spamassassin.org sought.rules.yerp.org FAIL @ dns query (NXDOMAIN); other channels resolve work fine.
2010/2/15 Daryl C. W. O'Shea spamassas...@dostech.ca: Yeah. That'll be corrected RSN. Great. Atm, dig +short -t TXT 1.3.3.updates.spamassassin.org 903765 Just to be clear, this^^^ will be the channel used by spamassassin's sa-update from SVN 3.3.x branch, correct? Thanks. BendDJ
Yahoo FBL - Off Topic - Part One
HI JD: What I particularly find amusing is this email saying they have an ISP program followed by the next one I'm going to send you. BTW - I have made several attempts to escalate this issue about getting on the ISP FBL to no avail. If you know a real live person at Yahoo and can give me a contact name I would appreciate it. Jeff Delivered-To: intersessions.com-jeffk...@intersessions.com X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on pegasus.avspamfilter.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.8 required=5.0 tests=RDNS_NONE,URI_HEX autolearn=no version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Report: * 1.3 URI_HEX URI: URI hostname has long hexadecimal sequence * 0.5 RDNS_NONE Delivered to trusted network by a host with no rDNS Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 09:11:56 -0800 To: Jeff Koch jeffk...@intersessions.com Subject: Re: CFL Application (KMM104380179V81098L0KM) From: Yahoo! Mail abuse-ad...@cc.yahoo-inc.com Reply-To: Yahoo! Mail abuse-ad...@cc.yahoo-inc.com X-Mailer: KANA Response 7.0.1.142.15 Hello Jeffrey, Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Mail. Thank you for your interest in Yahoo! Mail's Complaint Feedback Loop program. An Internet Service Provider (ISP) who wishes to participate in the Complaint Feedback Loop program can do so even if they are not signing their outbound email with DomainKeys or DKIM. Available only to ISPs, we do offer a feedback loop that is based on the provider's sending IP addresses or CIDR ranges. If you represent an ISP that is interested in signing up to our Complaint Feedback Loop program, you may register by going to: http://feedbackloop.yahoo.net Once you have completed your registration, please fill out our request form with the required information so we can review your eligibility and possible inclusion in the program. This form can be found at: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/mail/postmaster/cfl_app.html Note: When completing your registration, please provide your corporate email address during the registration process. Thank you again for contacting Yahoo! Mail. Your case number for this issue is 68500664. Please reference it in all future communication about this particular issue. Regards, Frank Yahoo! Customer Care 68500664 Original Message Follows: - Mail-Id: w1.help.re1.yahoo.com-/l/us/yahoo/mail/postmaster/cfl_app.html-126601230 8-62 1. What is your name? -- Name: Jeffrey Koch 2. What is your email address? --- Email Address: jeffk...@intersessions.com Confirm your email address: jeffk...@intersessions.com 3. What is your company's name? Company Name: Intersessions Inc 4. What is the URL for your company's web site? Company web site: http://www.Intersessions.com 5. Please describe your company Select one: ISP 6. If you selected other as the description of your company, please tell us how you would describe your company. --- Not set by user 7. Do you sign your emails with DomainKeys and/or DKIM? DomainKeys/DKIM: Neither 8. Do you have an existing account at our Complaint Feedback Loop site? - Registered: Yes 9. What domains (or IPs for ISPs) are you contacting us about? --- 74.220.16.1/24 74.220.23.1/24 10. Please tell us what your concern/request is. - Subject: We are an ISP interested in the IP-based program 11. Enter any additional information here: --- Not set by user While Viewing: Last URL: :// Form Name: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/mail/postmaster/cfl_app.html Yahoo ID: Other ID: Machine: Unknown OS: unknown Browser: Mozilla 1.9 REMOTE_ADDR: 24.187.176.53 REMOTE_HOST: ool-18bbb035.dyn.optonline.net Date Originated: Friday February 12, 2010 - 14:05:08 Cookies: enabled AOL: no --- Best Regards, Jeff Koch, Intersessions
Yahoo FBL - Part Two
JD - and after spending an hour registering and filling out forms I finally get this email. Sweet! Jeff Delivered-To: intersessions.com-jeffk...@intersessions.com X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on pegasus.avspamfilter.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.8 required=5.0 tests=RDNS_NONE,URI_HEX autolearn=no version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Report: * 1.3 URI_HEX URI: URI hostname has long hexadecimal sequence * 0.5 RDNS_NONE Delivered to trusted network by a host with no rDNS Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 08:54:46 -0800 To: Jeff Koch jeffk...@intersessions.com Subject: Re: CFL Application (KMM104418975V66474L0KM) From: Yahoo! Mail abuse-ad...@cc.yahoo-inc.com Reply-To: Yahoo! Mail abuse-ad...@cc.yahoo-inc.com X-Mailer: KANA Response 7.0.1.142.15 Hello Jeffrey, Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Mail. Thank you for your interest in Yahoo! Mail's Complaint Feedback Loop program. Senders who wish to participate in the Complaint Feedback Loop program are required to sign their outbound email with DomainKeys and/or DKIM, both of which are email authentication technologies that Yahoo! Mail utilizes to determine the actual sender of an email. (We do not offer feedback loops based on a sender's IP addresses or CIDR ranges.) If you are already signing your outbound emails with DomainKeys and/or DKIM, you may enroll in the program by going to: http://feedbackloop.yahoo.net For each selector/domain pair you want to enroll in the program, you will need to click on a URL in the verification email which we will send you. The completion of this verification process is necessary to activate any domain for the feedback loop. You will be given an option to receive the verification email at either of these role addresses: abuse@yourdomain or postmaster@yourdomain. Note: If you have yet to utilize domain-based email authentication, we encourage you to consider DKIM, which is the successor to DomainKeys. You may read more about DKIM at: http://dkim.org Thank you again for contacting Yahoo! Mail. Your case number for this issue is 68524040. Please reference it in all future communication about this particular issue. Regards, Hank Yahoo! Customer Care 68524040 Original Message Follows: - Mail-Id: w1.help.re1.yahoo.com-/l/us/yahoo/mail/postmaster/cfl_app.html-126609396 8-2206 1. What is your name? -- Name: Jeffrey Koch 2. What is your email address? --- Email Address: jeffk...@intersessions.com Confirm your email address: jeffk...@intersessions.com 3. What is your company's name? Company Name: Intersessions Inc 4. What is the URL for your company's web site? Company web site: http://www.Intersessions.com 5. Please describe your company Select one: Email Service Provider 6. If you selected other as the description of your company, please tell us how you would describe your company. --- Not set by user 7. Do you sign your emails with DomainKeys and/or DKIM? DomainKeys/DKIM: Neither 8. Do you have an existing account at our Complaint Feedback Loop site? - Registered: Yes 9. What domains (or IPs for ISPs) are you contacting us about? --- 74.220.16.1 - 255 74.220.23.1 - 255 10. Please tell us what your concern/request is. - Subject: We are an ISP interested in the IP-based program 11. Enter any additional information here: --- Not set by user While Viewing: Last URL: :// Form Name: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/mail/postmaster/cfl_app.html Yahoo ID: Other ID: Machine: Unknown OS: unknown Browser: Mozilla 1.9 REMOTE_ADDR: 24.187.176.53 REMOTE_HOST: ool-18bbb035.dyn.optonline.net Date Originated: Saturday February 13, 2010 - 12:46:08 Cookies: enabled AOL: no --- Best Regards, Jeff Koch, Intersessions
Re: v3.3.x Rule installs/updates from updates.spamassassin.org sought.rules.yerp.org FAIL @ dns query (NXDOMAIN); other channels resolve work fine.
On 19/02/2010 12:37 PM, Ben DJ wrote: 2010/2/15 Daryl C. W. O'Shea spamassas...@dostech.ca: Yeah. That'll be corrected RSN. Great. Atm, dig +short -t TXT 1.3.3.updates.spamassassin.org 903765 Just to be clear, this^^^ will be the channel used by spamassassin's sa-update from SVN 3.3.x branch, correct? Yeah, at least until the branch version number increments to 3.3.2, 3.3.3, etc. Daryl
cmpgnr.com - spammer or not?
I got a request to remove cmpgnr.com for my black list. Are these people legit?