Re: Using ZMI_GERMAN ruleset

2011-11-16 Thread Stefan Jakobs
Hi list,  

the published ruleset in the update channel is much older than the ruleset on
the named website.  

# dig +short -t txt 2.3.3.70_zmi_german.cf.zmi.sa-update.dostech.net txt
20100831  

Is the update with sa-update still supported?  

Thanks and kind regards
Stefan  
  Mo Okt 31 2011 14:43:22 CET von  Michael Monnerie
michael.monne...@is.it-management.at  Betreff: Using ZMI_GERMAN ruleset

  

  
  

Dear list,
 
 I'd like to receive some feedback on the usage of zmi_german. If you use 
 it, please report to spam-ger...@zmi.at and tell me what you think about 
 it.
 
 The ruleset is designed to filter only german spam, and is very safe. 
 Not a single report this year about FPs. If you didn't use it until now, 
 and get german spam, download it from 
 http://sa.zmi.at/rulesets/70_zmi_german.cf
 
 I'm seeking for people helping to cleanup and improve the filters. 
 Please contact me at spam-ger...@zmi.at



Re: Monthly tested unofficial Ubuntu releases of SpamAssassin

2011-11-16 Thread Kevin A. McGrail

On 11/14/2011 5:54 PM, dar...@chaosreigns.com wrote:
Not entirely sure what you're asking. sa-update has always worked. I 
considered mentioning the stuff about trunk not getting properly 
generated scores until recently, but obviously I didn't ( 
https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6644 ). I have 
not been doing rules separately. These packages contain a snapshot of 
rules I pulled via sa-update on 2011-05-25, just to satisfy the 
existing Debian packaging. Maybe I should be clearer that I expect 
people to use sa-update. 
I didn't consider the use of sa-update that distrubuted rules without 
scores as working.




I know.  I really appreciate all the work you've done recently.  The
momentum is great.  And I agree that getting stuff fixed is more important
in the short term than getting a releases out.  But it bothers me how
hard it is to get out an official release.
It bothers me too but I'm less worried about that than putting out a 
good product.  Improving documentation and streamlining the process is 
needed.


Plus, we could likely have beers and a healthy debate about 
long-term-server distributions vs. bleeding edge stuff.  I'm far more 
leaning towards the LTS concept than the latter.


For example, one of the things I think is dumb about eBay is the 
arbitrary bidding deadline that leads to sniping.  In a real auction, a 
new bid would add more time to the auction indefinitely as long as 
people are willing to bid.


In our case, as long as we have movement on bugs and nothing major to 
justify the release, it makes some sense to keep rolling back the 
deadline to get things into the release.  We don't get a bonus for 
releasing more versions ;-)


So right now, please focus on tickets because the 9/30 is a goal not a 
deadline.  But I think we are getting very close!


Regards,
KAM