sa-update doesn't work anymore after upgrade to spamassassin-3.3.2-4.el4.rfx

2012-03-18 Thread Bernard Lheureux
On a CentOS 4.9-x86 box I user for years, sa-update doesnt want to work 
anymore since I've upgraded from 3.1.3 this seems to be related to a DNS 
problem, but I can't find what I need to adapt to fix it, could you help 
me ?

All that I get in DBG mode is:
Mar 18 14:27:47.241 [15822] dbg: channel: attempting channel 
updates.spamassassin.org
Mar 18 14:27:47.243 [15822] dbg: channel: update directory 
/var/lib/spamassassin/3.003002/updates_spamassassin_org
Mar 18 14:27:47.244 [15822] dbg: channel: channel cf file 
/var/lib/spamassassin/3.003002/updates_spamassassin_org.cf
Mar 18 14:27:47.245 [15822] dbg: channel: channel pre file 
/var/lib/spamassassin/3.003002/updates_spamassassin_org.pre

Mar 18 14:27:47.246 [15822] dbg: channel: metadata version = 1162027
Mar 18 14:28:17.257 [15822] dbg: dns: query failed: 
2.3.3.updates.spamassassin.org = SERVFAIL


As long as I can see DNS is working correctly and I've also tried to use 
Google DNSes without success...

What could I do to fix this asap ?
Thanks for your help...


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Re: sa-update doesn't work anymore after upgrade to spamassassin-3.3.2-4.el4.rfx

2012-03-18 Thread Kevin A. McGrail

On 3/18/2012 9:30 AM, Bernard Lheureux wrote:
On a CentOS 4.9-x86 box I user for years, sa-update doesnt want to 
work anymore since I've upgraded from 3.1.3 this seems to be related 
to a DNS problem, but I can't find what I need to adapt to fix it, 
could you help me ?


Definitely sounds like DNS.

If you type dig -t txt 2.3.3.updates.spamassassin.org, what do you get?

Regards,
KAM




Re: sa-update doesn't work anymore after upgrade to spamassassin-3.3.2-4.el4.rfx

2012-03-18 Thread Bernard Lheureux

On 03/18/2012 02:33 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:

On 3/18/2012 9:30 AM, Bernard Lheureux wrote:
On a CentOS 4.9-x86 box I user for years, sa-update doesnt want to 
work anymore since I've upgraded from 3.1.3 this seems to be related 
to a DNS problem, but I can't find what I need to adapt to fix it, 
could you help me ?


Definitely sounds like DNS.

If you type dig -t txt 2.3.3.updates.spamassassin.org, what do you get?

Regards,
KAM


I get ;  DiG 9.2.4  -t txt 2.3.3.updates.spamassassin.org
;; global options:  printcmd
;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached

But the DNS resolution works correctly, what does that mean ?


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Re: sa-update doesn't work anymore after upgrade to spamassassin-3.3.2-4.el4.rfx

2012-03-18 Thread Michael Scheidell

On 3/18/12 9:44 AM, Bernard Lheureux wrote:

I get ;  DiG 9.2.4  -t txt 2.3.3.updates.spamassassin.org
;; global options:  printcmd
;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached

But the DNS resolution works correctly, what does that mean ?

it means the DNS resolution isn't working correctly.

you should get something like this:

dig -t txt 2.3.3.updates.spamassassin.org

;  DiG 9.3.5-P2  -t txt 2.3.3.updates.spamassassin.org
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 37105
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 4, ADDITIONAL: 3

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;2.3.3.updates.spamassassin.org.INTXT

;; ANSWER SECTION:
2.3.3.updates.spamassassin.org.3600 INTXT1293136

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
spamassassin.org.3600INNSa.auth-ns.sonic.net.
spamassassin.org.3600INNSb.auth-ns.sonic.net.
spamassassin.org.3600INNSc.auth-ns.sonic.net.
spamassassin.org.3600INNSns.hyperreal.org.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
a.auth-ns.sonic.net.37091INA209.204.159.20
b.auth-ns.sonic.net.37091INA184.173.92.18
c.auth-ns.sonic.net.37091INA69.9.186.104

;; Query time: 117 msec
;; SERVER: 10.70.1.2#53(10.70.1.2)
;; WHEN: Sun Mar 18 09:54:41 2012
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 208


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Re: sa-update doesn't work anymore after upgrade to spamassassin-3.3.2-4.el4.rfx

2012-03-18 Thread Kevin A. McGrail





I get ;  DiG 9.2.4  -t txt 2.3.3.updates.spamassassin.org
;; global options:  printcmd
;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached

But the DNS resolution works correctly, what does that mean ?

It means DNS is not working correctly for you.

Here's an old ISP in my areas's DNS server.  What do you get?

dig -t txt 2.3.3.updates.spamassassin.org @ns.erols.com

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;2.3.3.updates.spamassassin.org.IN  TXT

;; ANSWER SECTION:
2.3.3.updates.spamassassin.org. 3600 IN TXT 1293136

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
spamassassin.org.   86400   IN  NS  ns.hyperreal.org.
spamassassin.org.   86400   IN  NS  c.auth-ns.sonic.net.
spamassassin.org.   86400   IN  NS  a.auth-ns.sonic.net.
spamassassin.org.   86400   IN  NS  b.auth-ns.sonic.net.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
a.auth-ns.sonic.net.49101   IN  A   209.204.159.20
a.auth-ns.sonic.net.49101   IN  2001:5a8:0:3::1
b.auth-ns.sonic.net.49101   IN  A   184.173.92.18
b.auth-ns.sonic.net.49101   IN  2607:f0d0:1102:f::2
c.auth-ns.sonic.net.49101   IN  A   69.9.186.104
c.auth-ns.sonic.net.49101   IN  2001:48c8:1:1::2

;; Query time: 22 msec
;; SERVER: 207.172.3.8#53(207.172.3.8)
;; WHEN: Sun Mar 18 09:45:41 2012
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 292


Re: sa-update doesn't work anymore after upgrade to spamassassin-3.3.2-4.el4.rfx

2012-03-18 Thread Bernard Lheureux

  
  
On 03/18/2012 02:59 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
Could this be related to a firewall rule that should be blocking it
?
Which ports should I open to ensure it works not only port 53 udp
and tcp ?


  
   

   
  
  I get ;  DiG 9.2.4  -t txt
  2.3.3.updates.spamassassin.org 
  ;; global options: printcmd 
  ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached 
  
  But the DNS resolution works correctly, what does that mean ?
  

It means DNS is not working correctly for you. 

Here's an old ISP in my areas's DNS server. What do you get? 

dig -t txt 2.3.3.updates.spamassassin.org @ns.erols.com 

;; QUESTION SECTION: 
;2.3.3.updates.spamassassin.org. IN TXT 

;; ANSWER SECTION: 
2.3.3.updates.spamassassin.org. 3600 IN TXT "1293136" 

;; AUTHORITY SECTION: 
spamassassin.org. 86400 IN NS
ns.hyperreal.org. 
spamassassin.org. 86400 IN NS
c.auth-ns.sonic.net. 
spamassassin.org. 86400 IN NS
a.auth-ns.sonic.net. 
spamassassin.org. 86400 IN NS
b.auth-ns.sonic.net. 

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: 
a.auth-ns.sonic.net. 49101 IN A 209.204.159.20 
a.auth-ns.sonic.net. 49101 IN  2001:5a8:0:3::1

b.auth-ns.sonic.net. 49101 IN A 184.173.92.18 
b.auth-ns.sonic.net. 49101 IN 
2607:f0d0:1102:f::2 
c.auth-ns.sonic.net. 49101 IN A 69.9.186.104 
c.auth-ns.sonic.net. 49101 IN  2001:48c8:1:1::2


;; Query time: 22 msec 
;; SERVER: 207.172.3.8#53(207.172.3.8) 
;; WHEN: Sun Mar 18 09:45:41 2012 
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 292 
  



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Re: sa-update doesn't work anymore after upgrade to spamassassin-3.3.2-4.el4.rfx

2012-03-18 Thread Bernard Lheureux

On 03/18/2012 04:24 PM, Bernard Lheureux wrote:
I found why, that was related to my firewall, now everything is OK...
I simply had to disable the outgoing rules for DNS-OUT, because OUT is 
allowed from all, and now all is OK

Thanks a lot to all of you !


On 03/18/2012 03:40 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:


Which ports should I open to ensure it works not only port 53 udp 
and tcp ?


I'm assuming dig -t txt 2.3.3.updates.spamassassin.org @ns.erols.com  
doesn't work for you either.


http://systembash.com/content/dns-server-firewall-open-ports/

Has a good list of ports but it's basically 53 tcp/udp and every 
single upper port because of the back channel.  If your firewall 
automatically recognizes and opens back channels, you might be ok.
My FW is a Watchguard Firebox III/700 and ALL is open for OUTGOING, 
then I don't think this could be caused by this...

But I cannot find why this answers always:
[root@myserver ~]# dig -t txt 2.3.3.updates.spamassassin.org

;  DiG 9.3.6-P1-RedHat-9.3.6-20.P1.el5  -t txt 
2.3.3.updates.spamassassin.org

;; global options:  printcmd
;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached

I use my own Bind9 DNS server which is running OK for a long time ago...
And the 2 forwarders on this server are the 2 DNSes of my ISP what 
could be wrong ?

Do you know if I could try to use public DNS as forwarders ?
If yes, which ones ?


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Re: sa-update doesn't work anymore after upgrade to spamassassin-3.3.2-4.el4.rfx

2012-03-18 Thread Jari Fredriksson
18.3.2012 17:24, Bernard Lheureux kirjoitti:
 I use my own Bind9 DNS server which is running OK for a long time ago...
 And the 2 forwarders on this server are the 2 DNSes of my ISP what could
 be wrong ?
 Do you know if I could try to use public DNS as forwarders ?
 If yes, which ones ?

Try namebench and find it out!
http://code.google.com/p/namebench/

it may be available in your repo if you use Linux.

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Re: Better phish detection

2012-03-18 Thread sporkman



Joseph Brennan wrote:
 
 
 
 --On Thursday, March 15, 2012 19:21 -0700 sporkman sp...@bway.net wrote:
 
 -envelope-from is not from our domain, From: line in the message is,
 being
 able to clobber that pattern would be quite helpful by itself.
 
 
 Imagine one of your users sending mail to a list that another of your
 users subscribes to.
 

I can't quite see the case there.  My rule specifically matches a mismatch
between the envelope-from and From: only when the From: purports to be one
our staff/role accounts.  I had it in testing for the last few days with a
low score and it's doing pretty well.

Always open to more ideas though...

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Re: Better phish detection

2012-03-18 Thread Dave Warren

On 3/18/2012 8:16 PM, sporkman wrote:

Joseph Brennan wrote:

Imagine one of your users sending mail to a list that another of your
users subscribes to.

I can't quite see the case there.  My rule specifically matches a mismatch
between the envelope-from and From: only when the From: purports to be one
our staff/role accounts.  I had it in testing for the last few days with a
low score and it's doing pretty well.


Well consider your email (the one to which I'm replying):

Return-path:users-return-#-lists=hireahit@spamassassin.apache.org
From: sporkmansp...@bway.net


That would be a FROM header that mentions one of your staff accounts 
(assuming you're using such a qualifying account now. If not, use a bit 
of imagination) with a completely different MAIL command.


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