RE: whitelist_from in SQL not applied?

2013-02-15 Thread Benny Pedersen

Philippe Ratté skrev den 2013-02-14 15:24:

The mail came from 65.54.190.123 and it passes SPF

dont use whitelist_from, with that setting anyone can use that email 
as

sender to get whitelisted, this is okay if you do spf testing in mta
only, so spamassassin follow it as an ok, but not if you are not 
testing

spf in mta


What should I use, then?


1: spamassassin 21 -D --lint | less
2: perldoc Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::SPF


SPF is not checked at mta


ok

have you configured Mail::SPF to reuse mta spf (recieved-spf header) 
?

No


could still be relevant problem if its added remotely and not localy, 
but this is why i asked 1: on above, can you post it to pastebin and 
give a link here ?


2: is just informative to you what to configure in local.cf

for the sql whitelist use same preferences as it would be in local.cf, 
and btw have you multiple sql users preferences or just one ?, is it 
really checking the right user ?






Sought/Rules.yerp.org problem - Re: [Fwd: Cron root@zoogz /usr/share/spamassassin/sa-update.cron -D 21 | tee -a /var/log/sa-update.log]

2013-02-15 Thread Kevin A. McGrail

On 2/14/2013 6:35 PM, Emmett Culley wrote:

Hi KAM,

Can you give me a hint on who or what to contact.  I don't know how 
those rules got into my system.  It was working flawlessly for many 
years until a week or so ago.


Well, it still works  it seems :-)

Thanks for the reply.

Emmett, that appears to be JM's Sought Rules.  I'll cc Justin to see if 
he can enlighten anyone.


For more information about the rules, see 
http://taint.org/2007/08/15/004348a.html

Regards,
KAM


On 02/14/2013 12:26 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:

Hi Emmett,

To me, it appears you have a non-SA project channel being updated.  
Why you can't update that is something only the rules.yerp.org people 
can help.


Regards,
KAM

On 2/14/2013 12:28 PM, emmett wrote:
I have been seeing this in my log once a day for a few days now.  
What is the

problem and how can I get it resolved.

This is the latest log entry, but all were failures with amazonaws:

http: GET
http://rules.yerp.org.s3.amazonaws.com/rules/stage/3302013021221.tar.gz
request failed: 403 Forbidden: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
ErrorCodeAccessDenied/CodeMessageAccess
Denied/MessageRequestIdA1A070CD5615A700/RequestIdHostIdrg2byfiwxIKwAsqNLZ7JhD0pm3tiH/Avc59kZgu3fYFNOggFvfAMCrnfasV7FRIq/HostId/Error 


channel: could not find working mirror, channel failed









Re: X-Relay-Countries

2013-02-15 Thread Walter Hurry
On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 13:26:33 +0100, Benny Pedersen wrote:

 Steve Freegard skrev den 2013-02-12 21:19:
 
 header RELAY_NOT_US X-Relay-Countries =~ /\b(?!US)[A-Z]{2}\b/
 
 and what date is the database from ?, ip2cc ipv4-addr, to show it when
 its build, to update it either use the new relay_country plugin or
 update ip2cc database, if its over 6 mounts its time for a change

The former option wasn't really available for me, so I followed the notes 
at http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/RelayCountryPlugin as suggested by 
Jeff Mincy.

First I installed IP::Country::Fast, and noted that the database was from 
July 2009. So I downloaded the two files from
http://mailfud.org/ip-country-fast/ as mentioned in the wiki article.

Better: June 2012.

Finally I built them myself using the RIPE downloads, again as suggested 
in the wiki article.

$ ip2cc 213.174.72.92

  IP::Country modules (v2.27)
  Copyright (c) 2002-05 Nigel Wetters Gourlay
  Database updated Fri Feb 15 18:04:48 2013

  Address: 213.174.72.92
  Country: DK (Denmark)

$

So I have up-to-date ip.gif and cc.gif. If anyone wants them, post here 
and I'll put them on an ftp site somewhere.



DKIM scoring with spamassassin

2013-02-15 Thread Quanah Gibson-Mount
Does anyone tweak the DKIM scores given by SA?  There are plenty of 
scenarios where DKIM has failed, yet SA does not give the email a 
particularly high spam mark.  3 example test cases below.  I guess I was 
expecting SA would score DKIM failures more aggressively if there are 
problems with the signing:


Case 1. Actively modify from field of the message and send in manually via
SMTP keeping the same signature.

X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.379 tagged_above=-10 required=6.6
   tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1, BAYES_05=-0.5, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1,
   NO_DNS_FOR_FROM=0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01,
   T_HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.01, T_NOT_A_PERSON=-0.01,
   T_UNKNOWN_ORIGIN=0.01] autolearn=no
Authentication-Results: zqa-398.eng.vmware.com (amavisd-new);
   dkim=fail (1024-bit key) reason=fail (message has been altered)
   header.d=dkimtest.com

Case 2. Update signature on a domain, but don't update it in DNS.

X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.057 tagged_above=-10 required=6.6
   tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1, BAYES_20=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1,
   NO_DNS_FOR_FROM=0.001, RDNS_NONE=0.793, T_BIG_HEADERS_2K=0.01,
   T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01, T_HELO_NO_DOMAIN=0.01,
   T_LONG_HEADER_LINE_80=0.01, T_NOT_A_PERSON=-0.01,
   T_THREAD_INDEX_BAD=0.01, T_UNKNOWN_ORIGIN=0.01] autolearn=no
Authentication-Results: zqa-398.eng.vmware.com (amavisd-new);
   dkim=fail (1024-bit key) reason=fail (bad RSA signature)
   header.d=dkimtest.com

Case 3. Don't populate DNS record with DKIM signature at all

X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.957 tagged_above=-10 required=6.6
   tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1, BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1,
   RDNS_NONE=0.793, T_BIG_HEADERS_2K=0.01, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01,
   T_HELO_NO_DOMAIN=0.01, T_LONG_HEADER_LINE_80=0.01,
   T_NOT_A_PERSON=-0.01, T_THREAD_INDEX_BAD=0.01, 
T_UNKNOWN_ORIGIN=0.01]

   autolearn=no
Authentication-Results: zqa-398.eng.vmware.com (amavisd-new); dkim=neutral
   reason=invalid (public key: not available) header.d=dkimtest.com

Thanks,
Quanah

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Re: DKIM scoring with spamassassin

2013-02-15 Thread John Hardin

On Fri, 15 Feb 2013, Quanah Gibson-Mount wrote:

Does anyone tweak the DKIM scores given by SA?  There are plenty of scenarios 
where DKIM has failed, yet SA does not give the email a particularly high 
spam mark.  3 example test cases below.  I guess I was expecting SA would 
score DKIM failures more aggressively if there are problems with the signing:


DKIM and SPF are anti-forgery tools, not anti-spam tools.

If you take a DKIM-signed email that is whitelisted because of 
whitelist_auth and make a change that invalidates the signature, does it 
still get whitelisted? If not, then SA is doing all that it can reasonably 
be expected to do with the invalid signature.


DKIM or SPF pass or fail *by itself* is not useful as a spam sign. Taken 
together with other factors (such as DKIM invalid + claims to be from 
Wells Fargo) it's useful.


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Re: DKIM scoring with spamassassin

2013-02-15 Thread Quanah Gibson-Mount
--On Friday, February 15, 2013 5:01 PM -0800 John Hardin 
jhar...@impsec.org wrote:



On Fri, 15 Feb 2013, Quanah Gibson-Mount wrote:


Does anyone tweak the DKIM scores given by SA?  There are plenty of
scenarios  where DKIM has failed, yet SA does not give the email a
particularly high  spam mark.  3 example test cases below.  I guess I
was expecting SA would  score DKIM failures more aggressively if there
are problems with the signing:


DKIM and SPF are anti-forgery tools, not anti-spam tools.

If you take a DKIM-signed email that is whitelisted because of
whitelist_auth and make a change that invalidates the signature, does it
still get whitelisted? If not, then SA is doing all that it can
reasonably be expected to do with the invalid signature.

DKIM or SPF pass or fail *by itself* is not useful as a spam sign. Taken
together with other factors (such as DKIM invalid + claims to be from
Wells Fargo) it's useful.


Ok, thanks.  If any of our users ask, this is a good summary. :)

--Quanah



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Sr. Member of Technical Staff
Zimbra, Inc
A Division of VMware, Inc.

Zimbra ::  the leader in open source messaging and collaboration