Re: KAM pccc URIBL questions

2013-10-08 Thread David F. Skoll
On Mon, 7 Oct 2013 19:38:38 -0400
Alex  wrote:

> I've asked the list a few times before about similar companies, such
> as verticalresponse.com, which are also mass e-marketers, and I doubt
> very much whether all recipients have signed up for their
> "newsletters" or "webinars".

My preference is to list quasi-legitimate spammers as spammers or at the
very least as a "mixed" source.  Companies like verticalresponse.com
et al. have no economic incentive to curb spamming unless they are
threatened with a bad reputation.

I realize this may not go over well if you have customers who use the
service or want to receive mail from it, so a light hand is required.
We maintain an (IP-based) RBL and most of these quasi-legit spammers
end up on the "mixed" list, which is as the name implies: These IPs
are shady but not bad enough to block outright, so we add a couple of
points.

Regards,

David.


Re: KAM pccc URIBL questions

2013-10-08 Thread Alex
Hi,

>> I've asked the list a few times before about similar companies, such
>> as verticalresponse.com, which are also mass e-marketers, and I doubt
>> very much whether all recipients have signed up for their
>> "newsletters" or "webinars".
>
> My preference is to list quasi-legitimate spammers as spammers or at the
> very least as a "mixed" source.  Companies like verticalresponse.com
> et al. have no economic incentive to curb spamming unless they are
> threatened with a bad reputation.

I've done that to some extent, and have been moderately successful. I
found it competes with some of the whitelists, ironically.

I'm assuming this is a service you offer, or would you be able to
share your list?

Thanks everyone for your help.

Thanks,
Alex