Way to set user-prefs without a database?

2016-05-18 Thread Dan Mahoney, System Admin

Hey there,

We have a couple of user accounts (really, role aliases) that need a 
different required_score from our global defaults.  Since they're role 
accounts, they don't have a homedir.  We're using a milter that passes the 
whole username (including domain name) along, anyway.


Is there a dead-simple way to make this work using only the config files, 
or do I have to go to the trouble of setting up all of mysql just to make 
this happen?


Best,

-Dan Mahoney

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Re: Reporting gmail spam to Google

2016-05-18 Thread Reindl Harald



Am 18.05.2016 um 20:03 schrieb Charles Sprickman:



On May 18, 2016, at 9:06 AM, Reindl Harald  wrote:



Am 18.05.2016 um 15:00 schrieb Emiliano Vazquez:

El 18/05/16 a las 05:44, Reindl Harald escribió:

Is there any address that I can forward gmail spam to google for
reporting?


ab...@google.com should be the address (the mail was delivered to your
network by *.google.com host, wasn't it?)

HI guys.


Google only let you send 300 e-mails per day to another domains if you
are using free @gmail account. Maybe Google Apps can have more than
that. Do you receive a lot of spam from the same account?


not usually but that's not the point - the point is how they behave when you 
report spreaded phising over different accounts reaching a lot of your 
customers and don't change the fact that a large part of junk making it to SA 
at all comes from large freemail providers including google while mostly 
aol/yahoo



This stems from Hooli’s, oops, I mean Google’s culture.  They build things 
correctly.  Users know nothing.  No feedback is needed


no - it's like for most large companies

taking a lot of resposibility but not able to handle it
starts typically above 20 employes



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Re: Reporting gmail spam to Google

2016-05-18 Thread Charles Sprickman

> On May 18, 2016, at 9:06 AM, Reindl Harald  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Am 18.05.2016 um 15:00 schrieb Emiliano Vazquez:
>> El 18/05/16 a las 05:44, Reindl Harald escribió:
 Is there any address that I can forward gmail spam to google for
 reporting?
>>> 
>>> ab...@google.com should be the address (the mail was delivered to your
>>> network by *.google.com host, wasn't it?)
>> HI guys.
>> 
>> 
>> Google only let you send 300 e-mails per day to another domains if you
>> are using free @gmail account. Maybe Google Apps can have more than
>> that. Do you receive a lot of spam from the same account?
> 
> not usually but that's not the point - the point is how they behave when you 
> report spreaded phising over different accounts reaching a lot of your 
> customers and don't change the fact that a large part of junk making it to SA 
> at all comes from large freemail providers including google while mostly 
> aol/yahoo
> 

This stems from Hooli’s, oops, I mean Google’s culture.  They build things 
correctly.  Users know nothing.  No feedback is needed.


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Spam Filtering Trick that could be easily adapted to Spam Assassin

2016-05-18 Thread Marc Perkel
Tried to send this into the list but I think it had so many spam phrases 
it got blocked. So I'll just link to my wiki.


http://wiki.junkemailfilter.com/index.php/Concept_Parsing_Spam_Filter

This is a spam filtering trick I'm using but it's not SA, but could be 
easily adapted to SA.


Rather that just scan for regex strings it's useful to have a way to 
tell what things the message is talking about and reduce those to a 
single token that represents a concept. Then the concepts can be 
combined to produce rules or fed into Bayes for automatic scoring.




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Re: Reporting gmail spam to Google

2016-05-18 Thread Joe Quinn

On 5/18/2016 11:10 AM, Alarig Le Lay wrote:

On Thu May 19 00:00:31 2016, Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희) wrote:

As far as i know, they are doing those best to reduce spam by DMARC.

DMARC is used to prevent incomming spam, not outgoing.

Well to be more specific, DMARC allows forgeries to be aggressively 
rejected. Doesn't help a bit when your users are sending spam.


Re: Reporting gmail spam to Google

2016-05-18 Thread Reindl Harald



Am 18.05.2016 um 17:00 schrieb Byung-Hee HWANG:

On 2016년 5월 18일 오후 10시 6분 28초 GMT+09:00, Reindl Harald  
wrote:

not usually but that's not the point - the point is how they behave
when
you report spreaded phising over different accounts reaching a lot of
your customers and don't change the fact that a large part of junk
making it to SA at all comes from large freemail providers including
google while mostly aol/yahoo


As far as i know, they are doing those best to reduce spam by DMARC


"doing those best" must be the reason for a testing-SPF instead "-all"
come on..

gmail.com.  300 IN  TXT "v=spf1 
redirect=_spf.google.com"


_spf.google.com.300 IN  TXT "v=spf1 
include:_netblocks.google.com include:_netblocks2.google.com 
include:_netblocks3.google.com ~all"




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Re: Reporting gmail spam to Google

2016-05-18 Thread Alarig Le Lay
On Thu May 19 00:00:31 2016, Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희) wrote:
> As far as i know, they are doing those best to reduce spam by DMARC.

DMARC is used to prevent incomming spam, not outgoing.

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Re: Reporting gmail spam to Google

2016-05-18 Thread Emiliano Vazquez

El 18/05/16 a las 10:06, Reindl Harald escribió:
not usually but that's not the point - the point is how they behave 
when you report spreaded phising over different accounts reaching a 
lot of your customers and don't change the fact that a large part of 
junk making it to SA at all comes from large freemail providers 
including google while mostly aol/yahoo

You got a point! This is totally true.


Best regards.


Emiliano.




Re: Reporting gmail spam to Google

2016-05-18 Thread 황병희
On 2016년 5월 18일 오후 10시 6분 28초 GMT+09:00, Reindl Harald  
wrote:
>
>
>Am 18.05.2016 um 15:00 schrieb Emiliano Vazquez:
>> El 18/05/16 a las 05:44, Reindl Harald escribió:
 Is there any address that I can forward gmail spam to google for
 reporting?
>>>
>>> ab...@google.com should be the address (the mail was delivered to
>your
>>> network by *.google.com host, wasn't it?)
>> HI guys.
>>
>>
>> Google only let you send 300 e-mails per day to another domains if
>you
>> are using free @gmail account. Maybe Google Apps can have more than
>> that. Do you receive a lot of spam from the same account?
>
>not usually but that's not the point - the point is how they behave
>when 
>you report spreaded phising over different accounts reaching a lot of 
>your customers and don't change the fact that a large part of junk 
>making it to SA at all comes from large freemail providers including 
>google while mostly aol/yahoo

As far as i know, they are doing those best to reduce spam by DMARC.
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Re: Reporting gmail spam to Google

2016-05-18 Thread Reindl Harald



Am 18.05.2016 um 15:00 schrieb Emiliano Vazquez:

El 18/05/16 a las 05:44, Reindl Harald escribió:

Is there any address that I can forward gmail spam to google for
reporting?


ab...@google.com should be the address (the mail was delivered to your
network by *.google.com host, wasn't it?)

HI guys.


Google only let you send 300 e-mails per day to another domains if you
are using free @gmail account. Maybe Google Apps can have more than
that. Do you receive a lot of spam from the same account?


not usually but that's not the point - the point is how they behave when 
you report spreaded phising over different accounts reaching a lot of 
your customers and don't change the fact that a large part of junk 
making it to SA at all comes from large freemail providers including 
google while mostly aol/yahoo




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Re: Reporting gmail spam to Google

2016-05-18 Thread Emiliano Vazquez

El 18/05/16 a las 05:44, Reindl Harald escribió:

Is there any address that I can forward gmail spam to google for
reporting?


ab...@google.com should be the address (the mail was delivered to your
network by *.google.com host, wasn't it?) 

HI guys.


Google only let you send 300 e-mails per day to another domains if you 
are using free @gmail account. Maybe Google Apps can have more than 
that. Do you receive a lot of spam from the same account?


Best regards.

Emiliano.



Re: Reporting gmail spam to Google

2016-05-18 Thread Reindl Harald



Am 18.05.2016 um 09:32 schrieb Matus UHLAR - fantomas:

Am 17.05.2016 um 20:30 schrieb Matus UHLAR - fantomas:

On 17.05.16 09:10, Marc Perkel wrote:

Is there any address that I can forward gmail spam to google for
reporting?


ab...@google.com should be the address (the mail was delivered to your
network by *.google.com host, wasn't it?)


On 17.05.16 21:41, Reindl Harald wrote:

and you did ever get a response there exept "go too googlegroups and
read this and that" from a bot?


last time I remember the response was that they care of bugreports...
what you mean was iirc something like "for more info go to groups..."


i made some abuse reports to google and got back sometuing in the style 
"this is a autoreply, this mailbox is not read, go here and there", 
likely 3 years ago, maybe they changed their attitude in the meantime




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Re: Reporting gmail spam to Google

2016-05-18 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas

Am 17.05.2016 um 20:30 schrieb Matus UHLAR - fantomas:

On 17.05.16 09:10, Marc Perkel wrote:

Is there any address that I can forward gmail spam to google for
reporting?


ab...@google.com should be the address (the mail was delivered to your
network by *.google.com host, wasn't it?)


On 17.05.16 21:41, Reindl Harald wrote:
and you did ever get a response there exept "go too googlegroups and 
read this and that" from a bot?


last time I remember the response was that they care of bugreports...
what you mean was iirc something like "for more info go to groups..."
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