Re: Thanks to Guardian Digital & LinuxSecurity for the nice post about SpamAssassin's upcoming change
On 17/07/2020 05:35, @lbutlr wrote: > On 15 Jul 2020, at 20:34, Noel Butler wrote: > >> December 27 (our quietest time of year generally) this year has been slated >> for our changeover to remove spamassassin from our network. > > Nose. Spite. Face. > > Can you stop posting about this topic now? I did 24 hours back wanker, but just for you, I'll continue it -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate any part of this message without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message.
Re: sa-update for versions 3.4.2 and older fail lint because of description on non-existent rule was Re: update fail
Agreed. 1879851 is after I submitted the fix but doesn;t include the fix. I will have to check again after the next rule publishing. Sorry for the false alarm. -- Kevin A. McGrail Member, Apache Software Foundation Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 5:30 PM Marcus Schopen wrote: > Am Mittwoch, den 15.07.2020, 08:11 -0400 schrieb Kevin A. McGrail: > > Just an update that this is fixed: > > > > https://bz.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=7840 > > > > Should be a rule update published in the next 48 hours with the fix. > > Feedback welcome because we are making fixes for older versions so > > it's harder to gauge if it's fixed without user feedback. > > Which version should fix it? Same error with version 1879851. > > Ciao! > > >
Re: sa-update for versions 3.4.2 and older fail lint because of description on non-existent rule was Re: update fail
Am Mittwoch, den 15.07.2020, 08:11 -0400 schrieb Kevin A. McGrail: > Just an update that this is fixed: > > https://bz.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=7840 > > Should be a rule update published in the next 48 hours with the fix. > Feedback welcome because we are making fixes for older versions so > it's harder to gauge if it's fixed without user feedback. Which version should fix it? Same error with version 1879851. Ciao!
Re: Thanks to Guardian Digital & LinuxSecurity for the nice post about SpamAssassin's upcoming change
On 15 Jul 2020, at 20:34, Noel Butler wrote: > December 27 (our quietest time of year generally) this year has been slated > for our changeover to remove spamassassin from our network. Nose. Spite. Face. Can you stop posting about this topic now? -- "Are you pondering what I'm pondering?" "I think so, Brain, but won't it go straight to my hips?!"
Re: update fail
Frederic, I believe ruleset 1879934 has been published and should fix the issue. Can you confirm, please? -- Kevin A. McGrail Member, Apache Software Foundation Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 7:01 AM Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > On 7/15/2020 6:29 AM, Frédéric Nass wrote: > > As of today July 15th, sa-update (3.3.1) is trying to install > 1879817.tar.gz and it's still failing to do so. > > Hi Frederic, > > What's the error you are getting specifically? > > Can you tell us in which revision of the signatures this is expected to be > fixed? And confirm that this fix will also work for older versions of SA? > > I cannot because I don't know what problem you are having and it works for > me with no lint errors on 3.4.5. with ruleset 1879817. I'd like to get it > working and will look at the error from your sa-update. > > A couple more points: > > 3.3.1 is ancient released over a decade ago. 3.4.4 is significantly > better not to mention more secure with numerous bugs and security issues > fixed including a few CVEs along the way. > > Also are you aware that the project's rule updates are ending for that > version? We've been working to convey that info and it's on the > website:*** On March 1, 2020, we will stop publishing rulesets with SHA-1 > checksums. If you do not update to 3.4.2 or later, you will be stuck at > the last ruleset with SHA-1 signatures. ***. This change is based on a > policy requirement of the foundation and security issues with these weak > hashes. > > Regards, > > KAM > > > >
Re: Thanks to Guardian Digital & LinuxSecurity for the nice post about SpamAssassin's upcoming change
On Wed, 15 Jul 2020, jdow wrote:
Tokenism is a big thing in politics, probably everywhere on this planet.
Gotta be seen as doing something, ya know. We need a third house in our
legislature, the House of Repeals that strikes out dumb laws hastily drafted
to appease loud mouths.
{o.o}
+1
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Re: Detecting SendGrid shared IPs
Pedro David Marco wrote: Is there any way to know whether a Sendgrid IP is shared or dedicated? Use the FCrDNS data and one or another of the X-Spam-Relays metaheaders. It should be possible to quickly refine these to "good enough", if they're not already (watch for word wrap): header SENDGRID_SHARED_1 X-Spam-Relays-Untrusted =~ /^\[[^\]]+ rdns=[\w\d.]+\.shared\.sendgrid\.net / header SENDGRID_SHARED_2 X-Spam-Relays-Untrusted =~ /^\[[^\]]+ rdns=[\w\d.]+.outbound-mail.sendgrid.net / I suspect the second matches a somewhat different slice of their services than you're asking about, but I can't say I can really tell the difference from the outside. -kgd
Re: Thanks to Guardian Digital & LinuxSecurity for the nice post about SpamAssassin's upcoming change
* Kevin A. McGrail: > We're getting some positive attention from the verbiage change. Pluralis Majestatis, is it? ;-) What you call "the nice post" follows the overall theme of the US cultural imperialism you pushed in this thread. I see no mention in the purely US-centric article that (a) people across the world have quite different concepts of the connection between colours and racially charged language, (b) changing a few terms in lieu of making meaningful changes in how people treat each other will probably achieve nothing, and so forth. SpamAssassin is not a US-only venture. While you are patting yourself on the back, hoping to perhaps gain a few contributors (which you are patronising along the way, if you have not noticed), I think that you will lose others who find your approach as arrogant and outright silly as I do. It may be a good time to check on Rspamd again, although I find the team-of-one approach unnerving. I can't stand how many American right-wingers behave, especially Exhibit A in the White House, but this is an issue where left-wing zeal causes its own screw-ups. Having followed US politics since the Ford administration, I am sad how things have turned out. We have a lot of problems of our own here, but I am very glad that I don't have to live in the US. -Ralph
Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR PEOPLE RUNNING TRUNK re: [Bug 7826] Improve language around whitelist/blacklist and master/slave
On 7/14/20 5:55 AM, jdow wrote:
I gotta ask here, "Can't we all skip the ad hominem insults and stick
to technical merits and goals involved in this change?" Please.
{o.o}
LOL - coming from the woman who has been outright insulting,
condescending, and dismissive both on- and off-list, this is a
*hysterical* request. Pot, meet kettle.
Re: Detecting SendGrid shared IPs
>On Thursday, July 16, 2020, 03:26:08 PM GMT+2, Riccardo Alfieri wrote: >Bumping a little the score for shared IPs? Could make sense.. Exactly... -Pedro
Re: Detecting SendGrid shared IPs
Bumping a little the score for shared IPs? Could make sense.. On 16/07/20 14:10, m...@junc.eu wrote: Why? From: Pedro David Marco Date: Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 09:18 AM Subject: Detecting SendGrid shared IPs To: Users Is there any way to know whether a Sendgrid IP is shared or dedicated? Thanks in advance! Pedro -- Best regards, Riccardo Alfieri Spamhaus Technology https://www.spamhaustech.com/
Re:Detecting SendGrid shared IPs
Why? From: Pedro David Marco Date: Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 09:18 AM Subject: Detecting SendGrid shared IPs To: Users > Is there any way to know whether a Sendgrid IP is shared or dedicated? Thanks in advance! Pedro
Re: Thanks to Guardian Digital & LinuxSecurity for the nice post about SpamAssassin's upcoming change
And when are you going to phase out Liniux? https://www.theregister.com/2020/07/13/linux_adopts_inclusive_language/ /Gaute G tor. 16. jul. 2020 kl. 04:34 skrev Noel Butler : > On 16/07/2020 09:24, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > > All: > > We're getting some positive attention from the verbiage change. See > > https://www.linkedin.com/posts/kmcgrail_apache-spamassassin-leads-a-growing-list-activity-6689260331719520256-gMy7 > for a link to a Guardian Digital post about it. > > Anyway, I hope those not excited by the change will come around. We are > working hard to make it as painless as possible and we have gotten word > that several tools and projects that integrate with SpamAssassin will > follow suit. > > Regards, > > KAM > > > December 27 (our quietest time of year generally) this year has been > slated for our changeover to remove spamassassin from our network. > > Our policies have long excluded using politically motivated companies, > organisations, equipment and software. you made this political, you do not > care for the opinions of others unless they agree with yours, so adios > amigos. > > > >
Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR PEOPLE RUNNING TRUNK re: [Bug 7826] Improve language around whitelist/blacklist and master/slave
And Linus Torvalds has announced this for the Linux kernel:
https://www.theregister.com/2020/07/13/linux_adopts_inclusive_language/
/Gaute G
tor. 16. jul. 2020 kl. 08:14 skrev Thomas Cameron <
thomas.came...@camerontech.com>:
> On 7/10/20 4:33 AM, jdow wrote:
> >
> > Are we now going to be afraid of the unwelcome rather than the dark?
> > Are we going to shine a welcome on problems rather than light?
> >
> > You guys are MAKING problems where they do not exist. Shame on you,
> > children.
> >
> > {^_^}
>
> Nah, you're clinging to old, exclusionary language and behavior when
> being inclusive is so damned easy.
>
> Shame on you, old-timer. Be better than this.
>
> Thomas
>
RE: Thanks to Guardian Digital & LinuxSecurity for the nice post about SpamAssassin's upcoming change
>> It's amazing how SOME Americans are quick to jump on bandwagons If you get older you will realize that this typical behaviour of an average person, and you will only notice this if your thinking is above average. Sad thing, having a system where the average person rules, one can only conclude that this human race is going to fail inevitably. The only people who really understood that the only way the persevere on the long run, is to live in harmony in this world (keep ecological balance). And those were the ones that got enslaved. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-25/dumb-dumber-scientific-proof-people-are-getting-stupider
RE: Thanks to Guardian Digital & LinuxSecurity for the nice post about SpamAssassin's upcoming change
Have you looked at this rspamd? That has configuration file of 3000 lines and is sort all-inclusive solution. I think it performs quite well. -Original Message- To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: Thanks to Guardian Digital & LinuxSecurity for the nice post about SpamAssassin's upcoming change On 16/07/2020 09:24, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: All: We're getting some positive attention from the verbiage change. See https://www.linkedin.com/posts/kmcgrail_apache-spamassassin-leads-a -growing-list-activity-6689260331719520256-gMy7 for a link to a Guardian Digital post about it. Anyway, I hope those not excited by the change will come around. We are working hard to make it as painless as possible and we have gotten word that several tools and projects that integrate with SpamAssassin will follow suit. Regards, KAM December 27 (our quietest time of year generally) this year has been slated for our changeover to remove spamassassin from our network. Our policies have long excluded using politically motivated companies, organisations, equipment and software. you made this political, you do not care for the opinions of others unless they agree with yours, so adios amigos.
RE: Thanks to Guardian Digital & LinuxSecurity for the nice post about SpamAssassin's upcoming change
You are a racist when you are not treating people equal on the basis of the skin colour (or check definition in dictionary). Therefore anyone associating people of darker colour with blacklist and lighter colour with whitelist and associate this with in-equal treatment, is a racist. No one can complain about people trying to change things for the better. But lets be real, nothing you do here will make a difference. And I only fear that you feel so good about yourself, and then ignorantly continue upholding the very system that perpetuates race inequality. Yes yes that will happen, you will not think about slavery or inequality when you buy your next pair of shoes or apply for a loan at a bank. I do hope the people that are advocating this blacklist/whitelist removal so strongly, that they: Don't buy shoes manufactured under slave like conditions. Don't buy phones manufactured under slave like conditions. Don't do business with companies that have executive teams that do not resemble the diversity of the local population. Don't buy products from companies with billionaires (look at your US billionaires list, does not really resemble the diversity in your country) Don't watch any movies produced in hollywood Don't put your kids in all white schools PS. It is my opinion really pathetic to reference a news article where you are mentioned. This type of change should come from the heart, regardless what others are doing and saying. Now you look like some youtuber begging for acknowledgement asking for likes. To me you are more behaving like someone that follows the crowd without thinking, and history has shown that tends to be very dangerous. -Original Message- To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: Thanks to Guardian Digital & LinuxSecurity for the nice post about SpamAssassin's upcoming change So, This is the heading of the article: Apache SpamAssassin Leads A Growing List of Open-Source Projects Taking Steps to Correct Instances of Racism and White Privilege Using the word "blacklist" is racism. Does everyone get this! By definition you ARE a "RACIST" and ARE "White Privilege[d]." This is a political movement to blacklist (oohhh, I said it) anyone who does not comply. We're no longer angry, we're "not excited," how generous. The spamassassin leadership team are political hacks. Eric On 7/15/2020 5:24 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: All: We're getting some positive attention from the verbiage change. See https://www.linkedin.com/posts/kmcgrail_apache-spamassassin-leads-a -growing-list-activity-6689260331719520256-gMy7 for a link to a Guardian Digital post about it. Anyway, I hope those not excited by the change will come around. We are working hard to make it as painless as possible and we have gotten word that several tools and projects that integrate with SpamAssassin will follow suit. Regards, KAM
Re: Thanks to Guardian Digital & LinuxSecurity for the nice post about SpamAssassin's upcoming change
Your LinkedIn post thanks the Guardian while hitting on us by hiding our lack of consent. Original Message On 16 Jul 2020, 01:24, Kevin A. McGrail < kmcgr...@apache.org> wrote: All: We're getting some positive attention from the verbiage change. See https://www.linkedin.com/posts/kmcgrail_apache-spamassassin-leads-a-growing-list-activity-6689260331719520256-gMy7 for a link to a Guardian Digital post about it. Anyway, I hope those not excited by the change will come around. We are working hard to make it as painless as possible and we have gotten word that several tools and projects that integrate with SpamAssassin will follow suit. Regards, KAM -- Kevin A. McGrail kmcgr...@apache.org Member, Apache Software Foundation Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
RE: Detecting SendGrid shared IPs
Blacklist all and just whitelist email addresses you want to receive from. -Original Message- From: Pedro David Marco [mailto:pedrod_ma...@yahoo.com] Sent: donderdag 16 juli 2020 9:18 To: Users Subject: Detecting SendGrid shared IPs Is there any way to know whether a Sendgrid IP is shared or dedicated? Thanks in advance! Pedro
Detecting SendGrid shared IPs
Is there any way to know whether a Sendgrid IP is shared or dedicated? Thanks in advance! Pedro
