Re: replay RBL queries one hour later

2023-02-25 Thread John Hardin

On Sat, 25 Feb 2023, hg user wrote:


The last time I was hit by a not-recognized phishing campaign, no Ips nor
domains were present in RBL. When I took action one hour later I found that
several of them were listed.

So my idea is; is it possible to replay the queries one/two hours later?


Another more common approach to this situation is "greylisting", where the 
first attempt to submit a message from an unrecognized source is 
tempfailed for some period of time. The mailer will retry and the 
submission will be accepted after the greylisting period has expired, 
which may give RBLs time to list the IPs/domains/hashes/etc.


This also theoretically blocks fire-and-forget mass spammers who only try 
submission once, but I don't know how common that model is these days.


  https://duckduckgo.com/?q=milter-greylist

There are scenarios where this delay is unwelcome, for example commercial 
accounts where you don't want a delay in receiving communications from 
customers or potential customers. There are ways to tune it that may 
mitigate these concerns somewhat.



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Re: replay RBL queries one hour later

2023-02-25 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas

On 25.02.23 15:34, hg user wrote:

The last time I was hit by a not-recognized phishing campaign, no Ips nor
domains were present in RBL. When I took action one hour later I found that
several of them were listed.

So my idea is; is it possible to replay the queries one/two hours later?


you can scan mail every time you want, the question is how do you want to do 
that.



I envision two methods:
- logging the queries, with Message-ids
- storing a copy of the message

If the second run hits new RBL, report to me, to take action.


this could work, this way you could feed all mail multiple times to SA, 
which would apparently increase usagfe of DNSBLs, they could block you then.


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replay RBL queries one hour later

2023-02-25 Thread hg user
The last time I was hit by a not-recognized phishing campaign, no Ips nor
domains were present in RBL. When I took action one hour later I found that
several of them were listed.

So my idea is; is it possible to replay the queries one/two hours later?

I envision two methods:
- logging the queries, with Message-ids
- storing a copy of the message

If the second run hits new RBL, report to me, to take action.

Hope I was clear...


Re: Install plugins into embedded spamassassin

2023-02-25 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 25 February 2023 at 15:30:13, hg user wrote:

> Hi,
> I'd like to install at least one plugin in my embedded spamassassin,
> installed inside Zimbra.
> I'm a bit afraid of breaking stuff, about missing dependencies and so on.
> 
> I'm on SA 3.4.5 and - as a test - I'd like to install ESP plugin.

You might well be better off asking the Zimbra people, assuming that this 
"embedding" was done by them.

People here will know about "standard SA" but how it's been integrated into 
another product is going to be that other product's area of expertise.


Antony.

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Install plugins into embedded spamassassin

2023-02-25 Thread hg user
Hi,
I'd like to install at least one plugin in my embedded spamassassin,
installed inside Zimbra.
I'm a bit afraid of breaking stuff, about missing dependencies and so on.

I'm on SA 3.4.5 and - as a test - I'd like to install ESP plugin.