RE: [SA-LIST] Subject not changed

[Slava Madrit]

It works great.  Thank you very, very much
 
Slava MadritGlobal Network ManagerS A L A N S[EMAIL PROTECTED]+1.212.632.8311>>> 
"Dallas L. Engelken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/7/2004 10:07:18 AM 
>>>> -Original Message-> From: Carnegie, Martin 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 9:04 AM> To: 
users@spamassassin.apache.org> Subject: RE: [SA-LIST] Subject not 
changed> > >> >Bwahahahahah, I can't believe I missed 
that!!! Doh!!! Nice catch Rick> :-)> >> 
>--Chris> > So this would be expected that the subject would 
not get > changed? I must be missing something.> Please 
see http://bugzilla.spamassassin.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3605I 
provided a 4 line patch there for those of you that do not like theway SA3 
handles missing subjects :)Thanks,-- Dallas 
EngelkenNMGI

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RE: [SA-LIST] Subject not changed

[Dallas L. Engelken]

> >
> > The subject is not changed if there is no subject.  This is 
> a feature, 
> > not a bug.
> >
> > -Jim
> >
> Just out of curiosity, what benefit is provided by this feature?  
> 

You could flat out reject mail without a subject header.

-- 
Dallas Engelken
NMGI

RE: [SA-LIST] Subject not changed

[Chris Santerre]

>-Original Message-
>From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 10:34 AM
>To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
>Subject: Re: [SA-LIST] Subject not changed
>
>
>Jim Maul wrote:
>
>>
>> The subject is not changed if there is no subject.  This is 
>a feature, 
>> not a bug.
>>
>> -Jim
>>
>Just out of curiosity, what benefit is provided by this feature?  
>
>-tom


I would think that would be obvious. a 2 inch longer mortgage that lasts
4 hours!

--Chris

Re: [SA-LIST] Subject not changed

[Tom Meunier]

Jim Maul wrote:
The subject is not changed if there is no subject.  This is a feature, 
not a bug.

-Jim
Just out of curiosity, what benefit is provided by this feature?  

-tom

Re: [SA-LIST] Subject not changed

[Jim Maul]

Carnegie, Martin wrote:
Bwahahahahah, I can't believe I missed that!!! Doh!!! Nice catch Rick
:-)
--Chris

So this would be expected that the subject would not get changed? I must
be missing something.
Martin Carnegie
The subject is not changed if there is no subject.  This is a feature, 
not a bug.

-Jim

RE: [SA-LIST] Subject not changed

[Dallas L. Engelken]

> -Original Message-
> From: Carnegie, Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 9:04 AM
> To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
> Subject: RE: [SA-LIST] Subject not changed
> 
> >
> >Bwahahahahah, I can't believe I missed that!!! Doh!!! Nice catch Rick
> :-)
> >
> >--Chris
> 
> So this would be expected that the subject would not get 
> changed? I must be missing something.
> 

Please see http://bugzilla.spamassassin.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3605

I provided a 4 line patch there for those of you that do not like the
way SA3 handles missing subjects :)

Thanks,

-- 
Dallas Engelken
NMGI

RE: [SA-LIST] Subject not changed

[Candee Vaglica]

There was no subject on the original; so the header couldn't be
"rewritten."
Dallas posted a patch on Bugzilla: 3605. 

-Original Message-
From: Carnegie, Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 9:42 AM
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: [SA-LIST] Subject not changed

We just upgraded to SA 3 and so far it has been working great.  I had a
message this morning that I do not understand why the subject was not
changed.  Here is the header info.


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So it is definitely the threshold but it did not get marked. I have
attached the email for you to see it all,

Thanks

Martin Carnegie

RE: [SA-LIST] Subject not changed

[Carnegie, Martin]

>
>Bwahahahahah, I can't believe I missed that!!! Doh!!! Nice catch Rick
:-)
>
>--Chris

So this would be expected that the subject would not get changed? I must
be missing something.

Martin Carnegie

RE: [SA-LIST] Subject not changed

[Chris Santerre]

>-Original Message-
>From: Rick Macdougall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 10:00 AM
>To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
>Subject: Re: [SA-LIST] Subject not changed
>
>
>
>
>Carnegie, Martin wrote:
>> We just upgraded to SA 3 and so far it has been working 
>great.  I had a
>> message this morning that I do not understand why the subject was not
>> changed.  Here is the header info.
>> 
>> X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=16.9 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_DATE,
>>  
>> MISSING_SUBJECT,RCVD_BY_IP,RCVD_DOUBLE_IP_SPAM,RCVD_HELO_IP_MISMATCH,
>
>Hi,
>
>Perhaps because there was no subject to change.  One of the 
>rules it hit 
>was MISSING_SUBJECT
>
>Regards,
>
>Rick

Bwahahahahah, I can't believe I missed that!!! Doh!!! Nice catch Rick :-)

--Chris

Re: [SA-LIST] Subject not changed

[Rick Macdougall]

Carnegie, Martin wrote:
We just upgraded to SA 3 and so far it has been working great.  I had a
message this morning that I do not understand why the subject was not
changed.  Here is the header info.
X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=16.9 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_DATE,

MISSING_SUBJECT,RCVD_BY_IP,RCVD_DOUBLE_IP_SPAM,RCVD_HELO_IP_MISMATCH,
Hi,
Perhaps because there was no subject to change.  One of the rules it hit 
was MISSING_SUBJECT

Regards,
Rick

RE: [SA-LIST] Subject not changed

[Chris Santerre]

>-Original Message-
>From: Carnegie, Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 9:42 AM
>To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
>Subject: [SA-LIST] Subject not changed
>
>
>We just upgraded to SA 3 and so far it has been working great.  I had a
>message this morning that I do not understand why the subject was not
>changed.  Here is the header info.
>

Do you have anything in your /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf ?

rewrite_header Subject *SPAM*

Chris Santerre 
System Admin and SARE Ninja
http://www.rulesemporium.com
http://www.surbl.org
'It is not the strongest of the species that survives,
not the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change.'
Charles Darwin 

[SA-LIST] Subject not changed

[Carnegie, Martin]

We just upgraded to SA 3 and so far it has been working great.  I had a
message this morning that I do not understand why the subject was not
changed.  Here is the header info.


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So it is definitely the threshold but it did not get marked. I have
attached the email for you to see it all,

Thanks

Martin Carnegie
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