RE: [ot] If you see this domain in spam....
Actually I think that the use of subliminal messages and sales techniques (which includes hypnotic patterns) is against the law in the US. If I recall this was brought up in the news in the 80's. Gary -Original Message- From: Jeff Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 4:41 PM To: Christopher X. Candreva Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: [ot] If you see this domain in spam On Wednesday, October 13, 2004, 10:13:53 AM, Christopher Candreva wrote: > On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, Chris Santerre wrote: >> I would like to know if anyone gets a report of spam that has this domain in >> it. They just make me feel all icky. The more I read their site, the more I > Icky ? The biggest reason I think this is a scam is -- he obviously hasn't > read his own book. I couldn't get through more than like 2 screens of that > site before I started just hitting page down. > It was a trance -- the "Eyes glazed over I have no idea what I'm reading and > I don't care" type. The type that doesn't generate many sales. Heh, that would be fraud then, for "hypnotic selling secrets" that don't work Their "hypnotic" web pages made me want to puke, both from style and content. ;-) Jeff C. -- Jeff Chan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.surbl.org/
Re: [ot] If you see this domain in spam....
On Wednesday, October 13, 2004, 10:13:53 AM, Christopher Candreva wrote: > On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, Chris Santerre wrote: >> I would like to know if anyone gets a report of spam that has this domain in >> it. They just make me feel all icky. The more I read their site, the more I > Icky ? The biggest reason I think this is a scam is -- he obviously hasn't > read his own book. I couldn't get through more than like 2 screens of that > site before I started just hitting page down. > It was a trance -- the "Eyes glazed over I have no idea what I'm reading and > I don't care" type. The type that doesn't generate many sales. Heh, that would be fraud then, for "hypnotic selling secrets" that don't work Their "hypnotic" web pages made me want to puke, both from style and content. ;-) Jeff C. -- Jeff Chan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.surbl.org/
RE: [ot] If you see this domain in spam....
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> owner is regarded as worthless.
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Re: [ot] If you see this domain in spam....
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 13:13:53 -0400 (EDT) "Christopher X. Candreva" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, Chris Santerre wrote: > > > I would like to know if anyone gets a report of spam that has this > > domain in it. They just make me feel all icky. The more I read their > > site, the more I > > Icky ? The biggest reason I think this is a scam is -- he obviously > hasn't read his own book. I couldn't get through more than like 2 > screens of that site before I started just hitting page down. > > It was a trance -- the "Eyes glazed over I have no idea what I'm > reading and I don't care" type. The type that doesn't generate many > sales. > > I have a very strict rule. Any website that features a picture of the owner is regarded as worthless. -- Robin Lynn Frank Director of Operations Paradigm-Omega, LLC http://www.paradigm-omega.com Our view: Moving jobs overseas is treason. SpamTrap: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpuJwW5Ot8e3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [ot] If you see this domain in spam....
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, Chris Santerre wrote: > I would like to know if anyone gets a report of spam that has this domain in > it. They just make me feel all icky. The more I read their site, the more I Icky ? The biggest reason I think this is a scam is -- he obviously hasn't read his own book. I couldn't get through more than like 2 screens of that site before I started just hitting page down. It was a trance -- the "Eyes glazed over I have no idea what I'm reading and I don't care" type. The type that doesn't generate many sales. == Chris Candreva -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- (914) 967-7816 WestNet Internet Services of Westchester http://www.westnet.com/
RE: [ot] If you see this domain in spam....
Exactly. Sometimes you have nothing to go on but the 'feeling' that you are being fed a load of horse crap. Even some of the people who always cry for whitlisting on SURBL felt a little fishy about this one. So we give the benefit of the doubt for the first time. But if we find you did feed us a load, then yeah you get pounded back to the stoneage. NO domain is added to SURBL on 'feeling' alone. There is a hell of a lot of work that goes on. And for some to make a flipit comment about me trying to use SURBL for my own morality gains pisses me off like you wouldn't belive. And I'm willing to defend against that statment all damn day! --Chris (angered the gorilla you have.) >-Original Message- >From: Gary Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 12:52 PM >To: Chris Santerre; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Cc: Spamassassin-Talk (E-mail) >Subject: RE: [ot] If you see this domain in spam > > >And Chris, if they do spam, we need to crucify them this time. > Not just >the domain, let's do a lookup of every domain the company owns and add >them as well... > >Matthew, > >It's not a morality thing! It's just we're tired of being spammed by >shady people. > > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Chris Santerre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 9:08 AM >> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' >> Cc: Spamassassin-Talk (E-mail) >> Subject: RE: [ot] If you see this domain in spam >> >> >> >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 11:52 AM >> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >Subject: RE: [ot] If you see this domain in spam >> > >> > >> >Chris Santerre wrote: >> >> Which is exactly why I'm asking for a spam that contains this. How >> >> was that missed in my message? >> > >> >You don't like the domain and now you're soliciting spam that >> >contains it just so you can block it. That constitutes partiality. >> > >> >> Partiality towards spam? I won't list it unless it is spam. I guess >you >> are >> not on the whitelist group, so you have missed the entire discussion >we >> have >> had with this domain. We have been in close contact with the >owner. We >> have >> actually already removed them. >> >> So you might not have all the facts to judge me on some sort of witch >> hunt. >> I'm sorry if my initial email looks that way. >> >> I'm asking for people to keep an eye out for this one. What, now I >can't >> mention any particular domain that I'm interested in >listing? WTH kind >of >> logic is that? If you think this is so cut and dry then go ahead and >make >> your own SURBL server. You will soon find yourself adrift in a sea of >grey >> like the rest of us. >> >> It simple, they got on the list. They begged, kicked, moaned, and >talked >> their way off. They still look somewhat spammy. I'm asking for people >to >> watch for them. If they don't spam, they have nothing to worry about. >> >> End of story. >> >> >> --Chris > >
RE: [ot] If you see this domain in spam....
And Chris, if they do spam, we need to crucify them this time. Not just the domain, let's do a lookup of every domain the company owns and add them as well... Matthew, It's not a morality thing! It's just we're tired of being spammed by shady people. > -Original Message- > From: Chris Santerre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 9:08 AM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Cc: Spamassassin-Talk (E-mail) > Subject: RE: [ot] If you see this domain in spam > > > > >-Original Message- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 11:52 AM > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: RE: [ot] If you see this domain in spam > > > > > >Chris Santerre wrote: > >> Which is exactly why I'm asking for a spam that contains this. How > >> was that missed in my message? > > > >You don't like the domain and now you're soliciting spam that > >contains it just so you can block it. That constitutes partiality. > > > > Partiality towards spam? I won't list it unless it is spam. I guess you > are > not on the whitelist group, so you have missed the entire discussion we > have > had with this domain. We have been in close contact with the owner. We > have > actually already removed them. > > So you might not have all the facts to judge me on some sort of witch > hunt. > I'm sorry if my initial email looks that way. > > I'm asking for people to keep an eye out for this one. What, now I can't > mention any particular domain that I'm interested in listing? WTH kind of > logic is that? If you think this is so cut and dry then go ahead and make > your own SURBL server. You will soon find yourself adrift in a sea of grey > like the rest of us. > > It simple, they got on the list. They begged, kicked, moaned, and talked > their way off. They still look somewhat spammy. I'm asking for people to > watch for them. If they don't spam, they have nothing to worry about. > > End of story. > > > --Chris
RE: [ot] If you see this domain in spam....
>-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 11:52 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: [ot] If you see this domain in spam > > >Chris Santerre wrote: >> Which is exactly why I'm asking for a spam that contains this. How >> was that missed in my message? > >You don't like the domain and now you're soliciting spam that >contains it just so you can block it. That constitutes partiality. > Partiality towards spam? I won't list it unless it is spam. I guess you are not on the whitelist group, so you have missed the entire discussion we have had with this domain. We have been in close contact with the owner. We have actually already removed them. So you might not have all the facts to judge me on some sort of witch hunt. I'm sorry if my initial email looks that way. I'm asking for people to keep an eye out for this one. What, now I can't mention any particular domain that I'm interested in listing? WTH kind of logic is that? If you think this is so cut and dry then go ahead and make your own SURBL server. You will soon find yourself adrift in a sea of grey like the rest of us. It simple, they got on the list. They begged, kicked, moaned, and talked their way off. They still look somewhat spammy. I'm asking for people to watch for them. If they don't spam, they have nothing to worry about. End of story. --Chris
RE: [ot] If you see this domain in spam....
>-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 11:25 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: [ot] If you see this domain in spam > > >Chris Santerre wrote: >> I need a shower after we removed this domain from SURBL: >> hypnoticsellingsecrets.com >> >> I would like to know if anyone gets a report of spam that has this >> domain in it. They just make me feel all icky. The more I read their >> site, the more I wished we didn't remove them. But...I need a spam. > >Resist the temptation to use anti-spam software as a tool to >enforce your particular morality. Which is exactly why I'm asking for a spam that contains this. How was that missed in my message? --Chris
RE: [ot] If you see this domain in spam....
Chris Santerre wrote: > I need a shower after we removed this domain from SURBL: > hypnoticsellingsecrets.com > > I would like to know if anyone gets a report of spam that has this > domain in it. They just make me feel all icky. The more I read their > site, the more I wished we didn't remove them. But...I need a spam. Resist the temptation to use anti-spam software as a tool to enforce your particular morality.
[ot] If you see this domain in spam....
I need a shower after we removed this domain from SURBL: hypnoticsellingsecrets.com I would like to know if anyone gets a report of spam that has this domain in it. They just make me feel all icky. The more I read their site, the more I wished we didn't remove them. But...I need a spam. Thanks. --Chris
