Re: 0 score not voiding rule

2023-05-27 Thread Noel Butler

On 28/05/2023 12:02, Thomas Cameron wrote:

On 5/27/23 17:21, Noel Butler wrote: apparently does not disable the 
rule (like 0 disables all the others), is that a way of forcing your 
world view upon the rest of the world Kevin?
I thought this welcome crap wasnt being applied until next release... I 
guess Kevin that changed quickly, I might have missed the change as I 
admit to having little time for most lists these days, family life too 
hectic :)


Pretty bold to be a jerk to a guy you're asking for help from.

Be nice, Noel. It's not that hard. I don't know why you've got a burr 
under your saddle, but it's definitely not making a good impression to 
be shitty on a public mailing list while you're asking for help.




*yaaawn*  I'm an early usenetter, I never wrapped idiocy up in cotton 
wool back then, I'm not about to start now.


plonk? oh no what will I do...  roflmfao

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Re: 0 score not voiding rule

2023-05-27 Thread Thomas Cameron

On 5/27/23 17:21, Noel Butler wrote:

apparently does not disable the rule (like 0 disables all the others), is that 
a way of forcing your world view upon the rest of the world Kevin?

>
I thought this welcome crap wasnt being applied until next release... I 
guess Kevin that changed quickly, I might have missed the change as I 
admit to having little time for most lists these days, family life too 
hectic :)


Pretty bold to be a jerk to a guy you're asking for help from.

Be nice, Noel. It's not that hard. I don't know why you've got a burr 
under your saddle, but it's definitely not making a good impression to 
be shitty on a public mailing list while you're asking for help.




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Re: 0 score not voiding rule

2023-05-27 Thread Noel Butler
AS usual I still dont get whatever you're going on about benny, but v4 
was where these changes were to be, yes, BUT none of our servers are on 
v4


ls /var/lib/spamassassin/
3.004006/ compiled/

On 28/05/2023 00:06, an unmedicated Benny Pedersen trolled:



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Re: 0 score not voiding rule

2023-05-27 Thread Noel Butler

On 28/05/2023 02:53, John Hardin wrote:


On Sat, 27 May 2023, Noel Butler wrote:


USER_IN_WELCOMELIST 0

apparently does not disable the rule (like 0 disables all the others),

it is still scoring negative values on messages despite being set some 
time ago, and surviving "new kernel" server restarts


Did you also add:

USER_IN_WHITELIST 0

They are synonyms, might need to kill both explicitly.


Thanks John, will check that out this morning.

I thought this welcome crap wasnt being applied until next release... I 
guess Kevin that changed quickly, I might have missed the change as I 
admit to having little time for most lists these days, family life too 
hectic :)


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Re: 0 score not voiding rule

2023-05-27 Thread John Hardin

On Sat, 27 May 2023, Noel Butler wrote:


USER_IN_WELCOMELIST 0

apparently does not disable the rule (like 0 disables all the others),

it is still scoring negative values on messages despite being set some time 
ago, and surviving "new kernel" server restarts


Did you also add:

  USER_IN_WHITELIST 0

They are synonyms, might need to kill both explicitly.


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Re: 0 score not voiding rule

2023-05-27 Thread Benny Pedersen

Noel Butler skrev den 2023-05-27 04:20:

USER_IN_WELCOMELIST 0

apparently does not disable the rule (like 0 disables all the others),
is that a way of forcing your world view upon the rest of the world
Kevin?

it is still scoring negative values on messages despite being set some
time ago, and surviving "new kernel" server restarts


x ~ # grep -r USER_IN_W /var/lib/spamassassin/4.00/
/var/lib/spamassassin/4.00/updates_spamassassin_org/60_welcomelist.cf: 
 header USER_IN_WELCOMELIST		eval:check_from_in_welcomelist()
/var/lib/spamassassin/4.00/updates_spamassassin_org/60_welcomelist.cf: 
 describe USER_IN_WELCOMELIST		User is listed in 'welcomelist_from'
/var/lib/spamassassin/4.00/updates_spamassassin_org/60_welcomelist.cf: 
 tflags USER_IN_WELCOMELIST		userconf nice noautolearn
/var/lib/spamassassin/4.00/updates_spamassassin_org/60_welcomelist.cf: 
 score USER_IN_WELCOMELIST		-100
/var/lib/spamassassin/4.00/updates_spamassassin_org/60_welcomelist.cf: 
   meta USER_IN_WHITELIST		(USER_IN_WELCOMELIST)
/var/lib/spamassassin/4.00/updates_spamassassin_org/60_welcomelist.cf: 
   describe USER_IN_WHITELIST		DEPRECATED: See USER_IN_WELCOMELIST
/var/lib/spamassassin/4.00/updates_spamassassin_org/60_welcomelist.cf: 
   tflags USER_IN_WHITELIST		userconf nice noautolearn
/var/lib/spamassassin/4.00/updates_spamassassin_org/60_welcomelist.cf: 
   score USER_IN_WHITELIST		-100
/var/lib/spamassassin/4.00/updates_spamassassin_org/60_welcomelist.cf: 
   score USER_IN_WELCOMELIST		-0.01
/var/lib/spamassassin/4.00/updates_spamassassin_org/60_welcomelist.cf: 
 header USER_IN_WELCOMELIST	 	eval:check_from_in_whitelist()
/var/lib/spamassassin/4.00/updates_spamassassin_org/60_welcomelist.cf: 
 describe USER_IN_WELCOMELIST		User is listed in 'welcomelist_from'
/var/lib/spamassassin/4.00/updates_spamassassin_org/60_welcomelist.cf: 
 tflags USER_IN_WELCOMELIST	 	userconf nice noautolearn
/var/lib/spamassassin/4.00/updates_spamassassin_org/60_welcomelist.cf: 
 score USER_IN_WELCOMELIST	 	-0.01
/var/lib/spamassassin/4.00/updates_spamassassin_org/60_welcomelist.cf: 
 meta USER_IN_WHITELIST		(USER_IN_WELCOMELIST)
/var/lib/spamassassin/4.00/updates_spamassassin_org/60_welcomelist.cf: 
 describe USER_IN_WHITELIST 	DEPRECATED: See USER_IN_WELCOMELIST
/var/lib/spamassassin/4.00/updates_spamassassin_org/60_welcomelist.cf: 
 tflags USER_IN_WHITELIST   	userconf nice noautolearn
/var/lib/spamassassin/4.00/updates_spamassassin_org/60_welcomelist.cf: 
 score USER_IN_WHITELIST		-100
/var/lib/spamassassin/4.00/updates_spamassassin_org/60_welcomelist.cf: 
   describe USER_IN_DEF_WHITELIST	DEPRECATED: See USER_IN_WELCOMELIST
/var/lib/spamassassin/4.00/updates_spamassassin_org/60_welcomelist.cf: 
 header USER_IN_WELCOMELIST_TO		eval:check_to_in_welcomelist()
/var/lib/spamassassin/4.00/updates_spamassassin_org/60_welcomelist.cf: 
 describe USER_IN_WELCOMELIST_TO	User is listed in 'welcomelist_to'
/var/lib/spamassassin/4.00/updates_spamassassin_org/60_welcomelist.cf: 
 tflags USER_IN_WELCOMELIST_TO		userconf nice noautolearn
/var/lib/spamassassin/4.00/updates_spamassassin_org/60_welcomelist.cf: 
 score USER_IN_WELCOMELIST_TO		-6
/var/lib/spamassassin/4.00/updates_spamassassin_org/60_welcomelist.cf: 
   meta USER_IN_WHITELIST_TO		(USER_IN_WELCOMELIST_TO)
/var/lib/spamassassin/4.00/updates_spamassassin_org/60_welcomelist.cf: 
   describe USER_IN_WHITELIST_TO	DEPRECATED: See USER_IN_WELCOMELIST_TO
/var/lib/spamassassin/4.00/updates_spamassassin_org/60_welcomelist.cf: 
   tflags USER_IN_WHITELIST_TO		userconf nice noautolearn
/var/lib/spamassassin/4.00/updates_spamassassin_org/60_welcomelist.cf: 
   score USER_IN_WHITELIST_TO		-6
/var/lib/spamassassin/4.00/updates_spamassassin_org/60_welcomelist.cf: 
   score USER_IN_WELCOMELIST_TO	-0.01
/var/lib/spamassassin/4.00/updates_spamassassin_org/60_welcomelist.cf: 
 header USER_IN_WELCOMELIST_TO		eval:check_to_in_whitelist()
/var/lib/spamassassin/4.00/updates_spamassassin_org/60_welcomelist.cf: 
 describe USER_IN_WELCOMELIST_TO	User is listed in 'welcomelist_to'
/var/lib/spamassassin/4.00/updates_spamassassin_org/60_welcomelist.cf: 
 tflags USER_IN_WELCOMELIST_TO		userconf nice noautolearn
/var/lib/spamassassin/4.00/updates_spamassassin_org/60_welcomelist.cf: 
 score USER_IN_WELCOMELIST_TO		-0.01
/var/lib/spamassassin/4.00/updates_spamassassin_org/60_welcomelist.cf: 
 meta USER_IN_WHITELIST_TO		(USER_IN_WELCOMELIST_TO)
/var/lib/spamassassin/4.00/updates_spamassassin_org/60_welcomelist.cf: 
 describe USER_IN_WHITELIST_TO		DEPRECATED: See USER_IN_WELCOMELIST_TO
/var/lib/spamassassin/4.00/updates_spamassassin_org/60_welcomelist.cf: 
 tflags USER_IN_WHITELIST_TO		userconf nice noautolearn
/var/lib/spamassassin/4.00/updates_spamassassin_org/60_welcomelist.cf: 
 score USER_IN_WHITELIST_TO		-6

0 score not voiding rule

2023-05-26 Thread Noel Butler

USER_IN_WELCOMELIST 0

apparently does not disable the rule (like 0 disables all the others), 
is that a way of forcing your world view upon the rest of the world 
Kevin?


it is still scoring negative values on messages despite being set some 
time ago, and surviving "new kernel" server restarts


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