Re: BAYES_00 and FN

2008-02-23 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 22.02.08 14:04, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote:
 I see a lot of messages hitting BAYES_00 and reducing enough to make it
 a FN. After some learning, problem solved, but still an issue for new
 message types. Is there a way to protect from this sort of thing? Like a
 recipe not to add the bayes score if the score is over 7 and BAYES_50 or
 lower?

no, the BAYES_00 has to indicate that message is probbably not a spam,
whatever other rules say. I've seen false positives with BAYES_00 and
resulting score over 7.

 Would that be detrimental to my scoring?

yes.

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Re: BAYES_00 and FN

2008-02-23 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
 On 22.02.08 14:04, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote:
  I see a lot of messages hitting BAYES_00 and reducing enough to make it
  a FN. After some learning, problem solved, but still an issue for new
  message types. Is there a way to protect from this sort of thing? Like a
  recipe not to add the bayes score if the score is over 7 and BAYES_50 or
  lower?

On 23.02.08 22:40, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
 no, the BAYES_00 has to indicate that message is probbably not a spam,
 whatever other rules say. I've seen false positives with BAYES_00 and
 resulting score over 7.
 
  Would that be detrimental to my scoring?
 
 yes.

and I forgot to add: train your spam database properly. Especially on false
positives/negatives.
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BAYES_00 and FN

2008-02-22 Thread Robert Fitzpatrick
I see a lot of messages hitting BAYES_00 and reducing enough to make it
a FN. After some learning, problem solved, but still an issue for new
message types. Is there a way to protect from this sort of thing? Like a
recipe not to add the bayes score if the score is over 7 and BAYES_50 or
lower? Would that be detrimental to my scoring?

Thanks in advance!

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Robert