Re: Command line option to disable AWL?

2007-02-04 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 12:45:31PM -, Alexis Manning wrote:
> Do you know if that option will be supported by spamc as well?  If so 
> I'll probably hang fire until 3.2.0 is released.

spamd doesn't take configuration from spamc, so no.

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Re: Command line option to disable AWL?

2007-02-04 Thread Alexis Manning
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> Matt Kettler writes:
> > But you can use the command-line to force an alternate user_prefs file,
> > and have that file contain a "use_auto_whitelist 0". Assuming you're
> > using the "spamassassin" command line script for your second scan, the
> > -p option will over-ride the user_prefs file with any other file you
> > specify.
> 
> for what it's worth, in 3.2.0 you can also use a new "--cf" switch:
> 
> spamassassin --cf "use_auto_whitelist 0" ...

Do you know if that option will be supported by spamc as well?  If so 
I'll probably hang fire until 3.2.0 is released.

-- A.


Re: Command line option to disable AWL?

2007-02-04 Thread Justin Mason

Matt Kettler writes:
> Alexis Manning wrote:
> > I use SA as an enduser.  In my setup, messages in a certain score range
> > aren’t delivered to the mailbox but are held for a few hours so they can 
> > be
> > resubmitted, giving DNSBLs/DCC a chance to pick up on new spam.  The idea
> > here is that very high scoring messages (for me >15) are dumped in a folder
> > that is never reviewed but intermediate scoring messages are put in a folder
> > that is reviewed, so a recheck allows the effort of manually checking mail
> > to be minimised.
> >
> > This works pretty well for me but the AWL sometimes gets in the way: the
> > second time messages are processed they are often scored higher because of
> > the DNSBL hits but the AWL averaging causes lots of points to be taken off!
> >
> > Is there any way of either undoing the effect of AWL after the message is
> > first processed and I decide it needs to be rescanned later, or a
> > command-line option to stop AWL being applied the second time round?
> >
> >   
> No, there is no command line option at all.
> 
> But you can use the command-line to force an alternate user_prefs file,
> and have that file contain a "use_auto_whitelist 0". Assuming you're
> using the "spamassassin" command line script for your second scan, the
> -p option will over-ride the user_prefs file with any other file you
> specify.

for what it's worth, in 3.2.0 you can also use a new "--cf" switch:

spamassassin --cf "use_auto_whitelist 0" ...

--j.


Re: Command line option to disable AWL?

2007-02-03 Thread Alexis Manning
Matt Kettler wrote:
> But you can use the command-line to force an alternate user_prefs file,
> and have that file contain a "use_auto_whitelist 0". Assuming you're
> using the "spamassassin" command line script for your second scan, the
> -p option will over-ride the user_prefs file with any other file you
> specify.

Ah!  Interesting thought - hadn't occurred to me at all.  I usually use
spamc, where -p doesn't seem to be supported, but perhaps the additional
overhead of calling the spamassasssin command won't matter too much given
the number of messages that need to be reprocessed.

Cheers,

-- A.








Re: Command line option to disable AWL?

2007-02-03 Thread Matt Kettler
Alexis Manning wrote:
> I use SA as an enduser.  In my setup, messages in a certain score range
> aren’t delivered to the mailbox but are held for a few hours so they can be
> resubmitted, giving DNSBLs/DCC a chance to pick up on new spam.  The idea
> here is that very high scoring messages (for me >15) are dumped in a folder
> that is never reviewed but intermediate scoring messages are put in a folder
> that is reviewed, so a recheck allows the effort of manually checking mail
> to be minimised.
>
> This works pretty well for me but the AWL sometimes gets in the way: the
> second time messages are processed they are often scored higher because of
> the DNSBL hits but the AWL averaging causes lots of points to be taken off!
>
> Is there any way of either undoing the effect of AWL after the message is
> first processed and I decide it needs to be rescanned later, or a
> command-line option to stop AWL being applied the second time round?
>
>   
No, there is no command line option at all.

But you can use the command-line to force an alternate user_prefs file,
and have that file contain a "use_auto_whitelist 0". Assuming you're
using the "spamassassin" command line script for your second scan, the
-p option will over-ride the user_prefs file with any other file you
specify.






Command line option to disable AWL?

2007-02-03 Thread Alexis Manning
I use SA as an enduser.  In my setup, messages in a certain score range
aren’t delivered to the mailbox but are held for a few hours so they can be
resubmitted, giving DNSBLs/DCC a chance to pick up on new spam.  The idea
here is that very high scoring messages (for me >15) are dumped in a folder
that is never reviewed but intermediate scoring messages are put in a folder
that is reviewed, so a recheck allows the effort of manually checking mail
to be minimised.

This works pretty well for me but the AWL sometimes gets in the way: the
second time messages are processed they are often scored higher because of
the DNSBL hits but the AWL averaging causes lots of points to be taken off!

Is there any way of either undoing the effect of AWL after the message is
first processed and I decide it needs to be rescanned later, or a
command-line option to stop AWL being applied the second time round?

I would rather not disable AWL altogether because I do get a fair few
messages from people which discuss spam and may have spammy content.

Any thoughts appreciated,

-- A.