Re: Describing AWL
On Mon, 7 Mar 2011, Adam Katz wrote: Even if we don't change what AWL means, Curious that in English awl is a tool of the shoe-maker (in italian called lesina : since it was used to cut off tiny pieces, it even generated a verb lesinare which means to save money at the point to be stingy ... the expression awl policy was used in late '800 to indicate the government policy of (selective) public expenditure cuts ... see the reference in my signature) :-) -- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) Italian Research at risk.La Ricerca italiana a rischio ! see http://sax.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/WWW/Opinions/nobrain.html cfr.
Describing AWL
On 03/06/2011 11:33 AM, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: On Sun, 2011-03-06 at 10:51 -0800, JP Kelly wrote: I just found an incoming message which is ham but marked as spam. It received a score of 14 because it is in the auto white-list. Shouldn't it receive a negative score? http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/AwlWrongWay Despite its name, the AWL is a score averager, based on the sender's history (limited by net-block). I encountered that misconception so much that I altered its description it in my local.cf: describe AWLAdjust score towards average for this sender As a reminder, SVN trunk uses: describe AWLFrom: address is in the auto white-list Even if we don't change what AWL means, we don't need to spell it out as often. Cleaning up the docs would certainly be useful, but simply changing the description would cover most of the ground for us. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Describing AWL
On Mon, 7 Mar 2011, Adam Katz wrote: On 03/06/2011 11:33 AM, Karsten Br?ckelmann wrote: On Sun, 2011-03-06 at 10:51 -0800, JP Kelly wrote: I just found an incoming message which is ham but marked as spam. It received a score of 14 because it is in the auto white-list. Shouldn't it receive a negative score? http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/AwlWrongWay Despite its name, the AWL is a score averager, based on the sender's history (limited by net-block). I encountered that misconception so much that I altered its description it in my local.cf: describe AWLAdjust score towards average for this sender As a reminder, SVN trunk uses: describe AWLFrom: address is in the auto white-list Even if we don't change what AWL means, we don't need to spell it out as often. Cleaning up the docs would certainly be useful, but simply changing the description would cover most of the ground for us. Open a boog for it. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.orgFALaholic #11174 pgpk -a jhar...@impsec.org key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79 --- Failure to plan ahead on someone else's part does not constitute an emergency on my part. -- David W. Barts in a.s.r --- 6 days until Daylight Saving Time begins in U.S. - Spring Forward
Re: Describing AWL
On 3/7/11 4:13 PM, John Hardin wrote: On Mon, 7 Mar 2011, Adam Katz wrote: On 03/06/2011 11:33 AM, Karsten Br�ckelmann wrote: On Sun, 2011-03-06 at 10:51 -0800, JP Kelly wrote: I just found an incoming message which is ham but marked as spam. It received a score of 14 because it is in the auto white-list. Shouldn't it receive a negative score? http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/AwlWrongWay Despite its name, the AWL is a score averager, based on the sender's history (limited by net-block). I encountered that misconception so much that I altered its description it in my local.cf: describe AWL Adjust score towards average for this sender As a reminder, SVN trunk uses: describe AWL From: address is in the auto white-list Even if we don't change what AWL means, we don't need to spell it out as often. Cleaning up the docs would certainly be useful, but simply changing the description would cover most of the ground for us. Open a boog for it. I prefer to call AWL HEAT ( Heuristic Email Address Tracking ) You might be interested in my version of a utility sa-heatu documented at http://www.real-world-systems.com/mail/sa-heatu.html I have tried to clarify how HEAT works at http://www.real-world-systems.com/mail/sa-heatu.html#backgrnd which adds aging so as to loose old entries otherwise kept forever. I also have some thoughts about discarding hammers at the end of that document. Any feedback on this would be welcome. Dennis German
Re: Describing AWL
I also have some thoughts about discarding hammers at the end of that document. if awl had unixtime stamp for last change time, one could add time test for at least x days where its was score aveageing, but if less then x days dont give negative for ham that would hardened it more to be more strong, btw is it really not a simple ip reputation based with email senders ? if not whar changes are needed so ?`
