Re: Help with Bayes-SQL-Configuration

2018-07-18 Thread Kris Deugau

Julian Kippels wrote:

Hi,

I am in the process of setting up a bayes-sql-database but I am unsure
of wether I want to set the bayes_sql_override_username option.
I would like to have per-user-bayes scores, so that scores from user A
will not interfere with messages sent to user B.
If I understand it correctly, no matter what I use as the username for
sa-learn, this option when set will override it with whatever I put
there. Does this not effectivly disable per-user-bayes scores and
bundles them all under one meta-user?
However I have read, when using amavis (which I do) to call SA, I
should set this variable to the username which runs the amavis process.
What should I do?


You're getting two similarly-named but unrelated options confused.

bayes_sql_override_username explicitly and specifically disables the 
per-user Bayes DB setup you're asking for.  (IMO this is of limited use 
at any scale larger than "a handful of technically minded users", but it 
*can* work as long as your users are willing to feed the system.  For 
most other setups you're going to get better results by using a single, 
centrally-maintained site-wide Bayes database.)


The option you're probably looking for is "bayes_sql_username" (and the 
related bayes_sql_dsn and bayes_sql_password).  This sets the SQL 
connection user - not the SA/Bayes user! - which is what you need if you 
want to keep many per-user Bayes datasets in an SQL database instead of 
one of the other backends.


Calling SpamAssassin from Amavis or some other glue layer that operates 
during the same part of mail flow means that it's sometimes extremely 
difficult to make use of per-user Bayes and other settings, because you 
have one message with many recipients.  Full per-user SA settings are 
IMO best handled by calling SA on final mail delivery, where you are 
guaranteed to be calling SA for exactly one recipient on any given call. 
 The downside of this method is that if a message originally had 
multiple recipients, SA will be called for each of those recipients.


-kgd


Help with Bayes-SQL-Configuration

2018-07-18 Thread Julian Kippels
Hi,

I am in the process of setting up a bayes-sql-database but I am unsure
of wether I want to set the bayes_sql_override_username option.
I would like to have per-user-bayes scores, so that scores from user A
will not interfere with messages sent to user B.
If I understand it correctly, no matter what I use as the username for
sa-learn, this option when set will override it with whatever I put
there. Does this not effectivly disable per-user-bayes scores and
bundles them all under one meta-user?
However I have read, when using amavis (which I do) to call SA, I
should set this variable to the username which runs the amavis process.
What should I do?

Thanks
Julian