Help with sa-learn when using Outlook 2003.

2006-11-18 Thread thekillerbean

We currently have an Exchange 2003 server that is under heavy burden due to
excessive SPAM.  The company is not willing to spend $$$ to resolve the
issue if it can be done on Linux - especially being that we have several
Linux boxes lying idle!  Hence, my plan is to implement Sendmail as a front
end mail server for Exchange that will do the SPAM fighting (and possible
virus scanning as well once I learn how to) then forward e-mail to Exchange.

My dilemma is that since all user accounts are on Exchange, how do I bring
these missed SPAM e-mail messages back to the Linux box for use with
sa-learn?

Cheers,
tkb.

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RE: Help with sa-learn when using Outlook 2003.

2006-11-19 Thread Jason Staudenmayer
I have a similar setup (qmail, clamav, spamassassin and qmail-scanner),
this setup works GREAT!!.
As for getting them back to the linux box, I use a public folder for all
spam and then use Pegasus mail to IMAP the folder and then save the
emails to files on a SMB share. Once on the share I run sa-learn and
then rsync to my other linux box and repeat. Works like a charm! I block
around 1000 msgs a day (I only have a 200 users and lots of spam)

Jason

P.S. If you would like some more info email off list.

> -Original Message-
> From: thekillerbean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 2:59 AM
> To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
> Subject: Help with sa-learn when using Outlook 2003.
> 
> 
> 
> We currently have an Exchange 2003 server that is under heavy 
> burden due to
> excessive SPAM.  The company is not willing to spend $$$ to 
> resolve the
> issue if it can be done on Linux - especially being that we 
> have several
> Linux boxes lying idle!  Hence, my plan is to implement 
> Sendmail as a front
> end mail server for Exchange that will do the SPAM fighting 
> (and possible
> virus scanning as well once I learn how to) then forward 
> e-mail to Exchange.
> 
> My dilemma is that since all user accounts are on Exchange, 
> how do I bring
> these missed SPAM e-mail messages back to the Linux box for use with
> sa-learn?
> 
> Cheers,
> tkb.
> 
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Re: Help with sa-learn when using Outlook 2003.

2006-11-19 Thread Stuart Johnston

thekillerbean wrote:

We currently have an Exchange 2003 server that is under heavy burden due to
excessive SPAM.  The company is not willing to spend $$$ to resolve the
issue if it can be done on Linux - especially being that we have several
Linux boxes lying idle!  Hence, my plan is to implement Sendmail as a front
end mail server for Exchange that will do the SPAM fighting (and possible
virus scanning as well once I learn how to) then forward e-mail to Exchange.

My dilemma is that since all user accounts are on Exchange, how do I bring
these missed SPAM e-mail messages back to the Linux box for use with
sa-learn?


One option would be to use Maia Mailguard on the Linux box.  It can 
temporarily store a copy of all incoming mail.  When a user wants to 
report a message as spam, they log into the Maia web interface.  This 
way you can be certain that the message will not have been munged by the 
MUA.


Re: Help with sa-learn when using Outlook 2003.

2006-11-19 Thread thekillerbean

Thanks guys.

I like the responses here.

However, I got a response to this post (see below) to my Nabble registered
email address and I highly suspected that it could be malicious.  There were
2 links in the response and funny enough, the Powerpoint related link works,
but the home page link reckons I'm forbidden access.  What is the policy on
such posters here on Nabble?

I can't trust such responses especially after you see the dialog I had with
the sender - definitely an arrogant individual who believes he has all the
answers!

Also, how can I block messages from coming back to me directly?  I'd like to
have responses only appear here, but I'd also like to retain the ability to
get emails when replies are added to my posts.

Cheers,
tkb.


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-Original Message-
From: Michael Scheidell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 20 November 2006 0:02
To: thekillerbean
Subject: Offlist: RE: Help with sa-learn when using Outlook 2003.

Point your self somewhere else then.

It works for everyone else in the world.

Works for firefox on linux, freebsd, macos, windows.
Works for IE on windows.

MAYBE there is something with your setup.

Have fun ever figuring out SA


> -Original Message-
> From: thekillerbean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 8:35 AM
> To: Michael Scheidell
> Subject: RE: Offlist: RE: Help with sa-learn when using Outlook 2003.
> 
> 
> Why send me links that are not accessible???  I refuse to 
> download office apps due to high propensity for damage 
> especially being that I cannot even access your home page:
> 
> 
> Forbidden
> You don't have permission to access /spmtrap.php on this server.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Scheidell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, 20 November 2006 0:02
> To: thekillerbean
> Subject: Offlist: RE: Help with sa-learn when using Outlook 2003.
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: thekillerbean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 2:59 AM
> > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
> > Subject: Help with sa-learn when using Outlook 2003.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > We currently have an Exchange 2003 server that is under heavy
> > burden due to excessive SPAM.  The company is not willing to 
> > spend $$$ 
> 
> 
> > My dilemma is that since all user accounts are on Exchange, 
> > how do I bring these missed SPAM e-mail messages back to the 
> > Linux box for use with sa-learn?
> 
> There really is more to it than that:
> The spam box needs to know  more about your users than a 
> standalone box
> does.
> It needs to pull information from, and send information to AD and
> exchange.
> 
> If you time is worth nothing...  Set up spam assassin on linux, google
> for sa-learn+imap.
> 
> It took us 12 years of twiddling with various products to finally get
> one that did what it should:
> Block spam, not block real email, let it administrators administer the
> box, let users have limited access to their own stuff.
> 
> If there is any chance that they might consider a commercial solution,
> email me.
> 
> I have provided links with information.
> http://www.spammertrap.com
> 
> Ppt with pricing:
> http://www.spammertrap.com/downloads/spammertrap.ppt
> 
> 

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Re: Help with sa-learn when using Outlook 2003.

2006-11-19 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea

On 11/19/2006 3:01 PM, thekillerbean wrote:


-Original Message-
From: Michael Scheidell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 20 November 2006 0:02

To: thekillerbean
Subject: Offlist: RE: Help with sa-learn when using Outlook 2003.

Point your self somewhere else then.

It works for everyone else in the world.


Yeah, if they've got the required auth credentials.



Works for firefox on linux, freebsd, macos, windows.
Works for IE on windows.


Probably, but not on Windows, Linux and Solaris here without auth 
credentials.




MAYBE there is something with your setup.

Have fun ever figuring out SA



-Original Message-
From: Michael Scheidell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 20 November 2006 0:02

To: thekillerbean
Subject: Offlist: RE: Help with sa-learn when using Outlook 2003.



It took us 12 years of twiddling with various products to finally get
one that did what it should:
Block spam, not block real email, let it administrators administer the
box, let users have limited access to their own stuff.

If there is any chance that they might consider a commercial solution,
email me.

I have provided links with information.
http://www.spammertrap.com

Ppt with pricing:
http://www.spammertrap.com/downloads/spammertrap.ppt


I'd seriously think, twice, no eight times, before considering buying a 
mail appliance from someone who took since 1995 to get it right.


Did it really take that long or are you just trying to scare people off 
of SA and on to your client list?



Daryl


Re: Help with sa-learn when using Outlook 2003.

2006-11-19 Thread Steven Stern
thekillerbean wrote:
> We currently have an Exchange 2003 server that is under heavy burden due to
> excessive SPAM.  The company is not willing to spend $$$ to resolve the
> issue if it can be done on Linux - especially being that we have several
> Linux boxes lying idle!  Hence, my plan is to implement Sendmail as a front
> end mail server for Exchange that will do the SPAM fighting (and possible
> virus scanning as well once I learn how to) then forward e-mail to Exchange.
> 
> My dilemma is that since all user accounts are on Exchange, how do I bring
> these missed SPAM e-mail messages back to the Linux box for use with
> sa-learn?
> 
> Cheers,
> tkb.
> 

See this:

http://sstern.ccim.com/2006/07/14/training-sitewide-spam-filters/

It shows how I set up sitewide Bayes on 3 Linux MX servers using
Exchange/Outlook.

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  Steve