Hotmail DCC listed ???

2008-02-26 Thread Rejaine Monteiro

This is the rule check for a 'normal' (non-spam) e-mail become from Hotmail:

pts rule name  description
 -- 
--

1.0 SUBJ_ALL_CAPS  Subject is all capitals
2.3 FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVDForged hotmail.com 'Received:' header found
0.0 HTML_MESSAGE   BODY: HTML included in message
0.0 BAYES_50   BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 40 to 60%
   [score: 0.4743]
0.2 MIME_BASE64_NO_NAMERAW: base64 attachment does not have a file name
2.2 DCC_CHECK  Listed in DCC 
(http://rhyolite.com/anti-spam/dcc/)


This FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD and DCC_CHECK are false positive???


Re: Hotmail DCC listed ???

2008-02-26 Thread --[ UxBoD ]--
we would need to see the full headers.

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- Rejaine Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is the rule check for a 'normal' (non-spam) e-mail become from
 Hotmail:
 
  pts rule name  description

-- 
This message has been scanned for viruses and
dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
believed to be clean.



Re: Hotmail DCC listed ???

2008-02-26 Thread Michael Scheidell
'hotmail' isn't listed in DCC.
DCC only scored on fuzy checksums on the body and portions of the headers.
Also, DCC is NOT a 100% 'spam score'.  DCC is a 'bulk email' score.

Even well run technical mailing list emails are SUPPOSED to score high with
DCC. (its 'bulk').  Read The DCC documents on whitelisting your bulk email
marketing lists.

However, interestingly enough, you have FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD. Did someone
send an email from  non hotmail source using a hotmail email address?

And, interestingly enough, SCREAMED AT YOU IN THE SUBJECT LINE?
Was it 'spam', or was it a 'bulk' email?


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Re: Hotmail DCC listed ???

2008-02-26 Thread Rejaine Monteiro





Here is...


===
Received: from bay0-omc2-s37.bay0.hotmail.com (65.54.246.173)
  by myserver.mydomain with SMTP; 24 Feb 2008 20:34:41 -0300
Received-SPF: pass (myserver.mydomain: SPF record at spf-a.hotmail.com
designates 65.54.246.173 as permitted sender)
Received: from BAY136-W10 ([65.55.141.45]) by
bay0-omc2-s37.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959);
 Sun, 24 Feb 2008 15:34:37 -0800
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Return-Path: [[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
    boundary="_09a8dc75-6268-44df-9651-699be18c9064_"
X-Originating-IP: [189.27.208.XXX]
From: [SENDER] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [user]@mydomain
Subject: Test 123
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:34:36 +
Importance: Normal
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Feb 2008 23:34:37.0480 (UTC)
FILETIME=[D1B0E280:01C8773D]

--_09a8dc75-6268-44df-9651-699be18c9064_
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
    boundary="_15d4da47-3ecf-4c36-a260-a489d560834e_"

--_15d4da47-3ecf-4c36-a260-a489d560834e_
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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--[ UxBoD ]-- escreveu:

  we would need to see the full headers.

Regards,

  





Re: Hotmail DCC listed ???

2008-02-26 Thread Rejaine Monteiro





Sorry, 

The original subject was "TESTE_CAXIAS" (in portuguese language and all
capitals) 


Rejaine Monteiro escreveu:

  
  
Here is...
  
  
===
Received: from bay0-omc2-s37.bay0.hotmail.com (65.54.246.173)
  by myserver.mydomain with SMTP; 24 Feb 2008 20:34:41 -0300
Received-SPF: pass (myserver.mydomain: SPF record at spf-a.hotmail.com
designates 65.54.246.173 as permitted sender)
Received: from BAY136-W10 ([65.55.141.45]) by
bay0-omc2-s37.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959);
 Sun, 24 Feb 2008 15:34:37 -0800
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Return-Path: [[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
    boundary="_09a8dc75-6268-44df-9651-699be18c9064_"
X-Originating-IP: [189.27.208.XXX]
From: [SENDER] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [user]@mydomain
Subject: Test 123
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:34:36 +
Importance: Normal
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Feb 2008 23:34:37.0480 (UTC)
FILETIME=[D1B0E280:01C8773D]
  
--_09a8dc75-6268-44df-9651-699be18c9064_
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
    boundary="_15d4da47-3ecf-4c36-a260-a489d560834e_"
  
--_15d4da47-3ecf-4c36-a260-a489d560834e_
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  
  ===
  





Re: Hotmail DCC listed ???

2008-02-26 Thread Rejaine Monteiro



Michael Scheidell escreveu:

'However, interestingly enough, you have FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD. Did someone
send an email from  non hotmail source using a hotmail email address?
  


No, the message was send from hotmail site (www.hotmail.com)



And, interestingly enough, SCREAMED AT YOU IN THE SUBJECT LINE?
Was it 'spam', or was it a 'bulk' email?
  


Yes.. Subject is in capitals.. OK, I agree with  1.0 SUBJ_ALL_CAPS score..

But, I not agree with  the  2.3 FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD score, because the 
message come from Hotmail...






Re: Hotmail DCC listed ???

2008-02-26 Thread Michael Scheidell

Rejaine Monteiro wrote:
But, I not agree with  the  2.3 FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD score, because 
the message come from Hotmail...






to to bugzilla for spamassassin.  fill out a report for 
forged_hotmail_rcvd (posting to SA list won't help any)
If you are NOT running SA 3.2.4, upgrade.  if you are NOT running 
sa-update, run it.


hotmail changes their servers like boy george changes eye liner.  unless 
you keep up with them, you will get FP's

If you can't upgrade, set score to 0.


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Re: Hotmail DCC listed ???

2008-02-26 Thread Rejaine Monteiro


Michael Scheidell escreveu:
hotmail changes their servers like boy george changes eye liner.  
unless you keep up with them, you will get FP's

If you can't upgrade, set score to 0.



I'm running spamassassin 3.1.7 and use sa-update, but upgrade is not 
possible for now ...
So, I will score FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD to 0...  Anyway, Hotmail have a SPF 
entry, will have to be enough.



Thank you !