Re: Ignore forwarding headers from specific sender

2015-07-31 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas

On 30.07.15 18:27, Al B wrote:

I wasn't aware that Hotmail's filters work when you have forwarding turned
on.  I also would prefer to have all my blacklist in one place instead of
having maintain 2 list.


it's bad idea to let spam being forwarded and blocked on the destination.
I wouldn't wonder if gmail would start marking mail forwarded through your
account as spam...

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Re: Ignore forwarding headers from specific sender

2015-07-30 Thread Bret Miller
Why not just add the blocked email address to the blocked sender list 
for your Hotmail account?


On 7/30/2015 12:28 PM, RW wrote:

On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 13:21:35 -0500
Al B wrote:


I have 2 accounts:
myaccount@gmail.commyacco...@hotmail.com
I've been using  Spamassassin with both accounts and all has been
well.  Recently I decided to have Hotmail forward email to my Gmail
account, so that I only have to check one account.  Is there anyway
to tell Spamassassin to ignore any headers added by
myacco...@hotmail.com? blacklist_from  s...@spam.com An email I
receive from s...@spam.com using the Hotmail account is correctly
identified as being from a blacklisted sender.  However, the same
email after being forwarded to Gmail is seen as coming from
myacco...@hotmail.com and is not blacklisted. Is there anyway around
this?

Not if there is a Resent-From header. However, that heady is usually
only added on manual forwarding, not when mail is being redirected
automatically.







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Re: Ignore forwarding headers from specific sender

2015-07-30 Thread RW
On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 13:21:35 -0500
Al B wrote:

 I have 2 accounts:
 myaccount@gmail.commyacco...@hotmail.com
 I've been using  Spamassassin with both accounts and all has been
 well.  Recently I decided to have Hotmail forward email to my Gmail
 account, so that I only have to check one account.  Is there anyway
 to tell Spamassassin to ignore any headers added by
 myacco...@hotmail.com? blacklist_from  s...@spam.com An email I
 receive from s...@spam.com using the Hotmail account is correctly
 identified as being from a blacklisted sender.  However, the same
 email after being forwarded to Gmail is seen as coming from
 myacco...@hotmail.com and is not blacklisted. Is there anyway around
 this?

Not if there is a Resent-From header. However, that heady is usually
only added on manual forwarding, not when mail is being redirected
automatically.





RE: Ignore forwarding headers from specific sender

2015-07-30 Thread Al B
That would have been a lot easier

 Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 16:56:39 -0700
 From: jhar...@impsec.org
 To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
 Subject: RE: Ignore forwarding headers from specific sender
 
 On Thu, 30 Jul 2015, John Hardin wrote:
 
  On Thu, 30 Jul 2015, Al B wrote:
 
   It appears that Hotmail does include the Resent-From header, see below. I
   think I've gotten around the issue by creating a python script to strip
   the forwarding headers, before sending the email to Spamassassin.
 
  It might be easier to strip the Resent-From: myacco...@hotmail.com 
  header...
 
 ...or alter it to X-Resent-From: if you don't want to lose the history 
 completely...
 
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RE: Ignore forwarding headers from specific sender

2015-07-30 Thread Al B
I wasn't aware that Hotmail's filters work when you have forwarding turned on.  
I also would prefer to have all my blacklist in one place instead of having 
maintain 2 list.

Subject: Re: Ignore forwarding headers from specific sender
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
From: bret.mil...@gci.org
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 12:33:23 -0700


  

  
  
Why not just add the blocked email address to the blocked sender
list for your Hotmail account?



On 7/30/2015 12:28 PM, RW wrote:



  On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 13:21:35 -0500
Al B wrote:


  
I have 2 accounts:
myaccount@gmail.commyacco...@hotmail.com
I've been using  Spamassassin with both accounts and all has been
well.  Recently I decided to have Hotmail forward email to my Gmail
account, so that I only have to check one account.  Is there anyway
to tell Spamassassin to ignore any headers added by
myacco...@hotmail.com? blacklist_from  s...@spam.com An email I
receive from s...@spam.com using the Hotmail account is correctly
identified as being from a blacklisted sender.  However, the same
email after being forwarded to Gmail is seen as coming from
myacco...@hotmail.com and is not blacklisted. Is there anyway around
this?

  
  Not if there is a Resent-From header. However, that heady is usually
only added on manual forwarding, not when mail is being redirected
automatically.






  

RE: Ignore forwarding headers from specific sender

2015-07-30 Thread John Hardin

On Thu, 30 Jul 2015, Al B wrote:

It appears that Hotmail does include the Resent-From header, see below. 
I think I've gotten around the issue by creating a python script to 
strip the forwarding headers, before sending the email to Spamassassin.


It might be easier to strip the Resent-From: myacco...@hotmail.com 
header...



Delivered-To: myacco...@gmail.com
Received: by 10.76.62.4 with SMTP id u4csp713921oar; Thu, 30 Jul 2015 11:24:17
-0700 (PDT)
X-Received: by 10.66.222.161 with SMTP id qn1mr111009366pac.66.1438280657527;
Thu, 30 Jul 2015 11:24:17 -0700 (PDT)
Return-Path: myacco...@hotmail.com
Received: from COL004-OMC4S16.hotmail.com (col004-omc4s16.hotmail.com.
[65.55.34.218]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id
ok5si4006717pdb.157.2015.07.30.11.24.17 for myacco...@gmail.com
(version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 30 Jul 2015
11:24:17 -0700 (PDT)
Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of myacco...@hotmail.com designates
65.55.34.218 as permitted sender) client-ip=65.55.34.218;
Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of
myacco...@hotmail.com designates 65.55.34.218 as permitted sender)
smtp.mail=myacco...@hotmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE)
header.from=hotmail.com
Received: from COL004-MC3F33.hotmail.com ([65.55.34.199]) by
COL004-OMC4S16.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft
SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Thu, 30 Jul 2015 11:21:55 -0700
Resent-Message-ID: col004-mc3f33f2189c5cc400f50951e5c9...@phx.gbl
Resent-To: myacco...@gmail.com
Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 11:21:55 -0700
Resent-From: myacco...@hotmail.com
X-HM-Routing-Path: 
+tYAoiJsCIZZ+5v4HRyIibLIG7ufv4KPyAQNAnIf34/uop6v2JKIAU5O09+6m5C1q04HwYX26tsK7oE6J82ofaue6IycEJm0994KgOCqqg3M+s7+G4+eG11m9nPUmd2BIpp1RNtTW0n4bZeN+lMudft9uWiOpe4snBAWz438JUKMr9zvIodFWE/LjRZPJUvL9la5i7Ny3v4=


Not if there is a Resent-From header. However, that heady is usually
only added on manual forwarding, not when mail is being redirected
automatically.


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RE: Ignore forwarding headers from specific sender

2015-07-30 Thread Al B
It appears that Hotmail does include the Resent-From header, see below.  I 
think I've gotten around the issue by creating a python script to strip the 
forwarding headers, before sending the email to Spamassassin.

Delivered-To: myacco...@gmail.com
Received: by 10.76.62.4 with SMTP id u4csp713921oar; Thu, 30 Jul 2015 11:24:17
 -0700 (PDT)
X-Received: by 10.66.222.161 with SMTP id qn1mr111009366pac.66.1438280657527;
 Thu, 30 Jul 2015 11:24:17 -0700 (PDT)
Return-Path: myacco...@hotmail.com
Received: from COL004-OMC4S16.hotmail.com (col004-omc4s16.hotmail.com.
 [65.55.34.218]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id
 ok5si4006717pdb.157.2015.07.30.11.24.17 for myacco...@gmail.com
 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 30 Jul 2015
 11:24:17 -0700 (PDT)
Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of myacco...@hotmail.com designates
 65.55.34.218 as permitted sender) client-ip=65.55.34.218;
Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of
 myacco...@hotmail.com designates 65.55.34.218 as permitted sender)
 smtp.mail=myacco...@hotmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE)
 header.from=hotmail.com
Received: from COL004-MC3F33.hotmail.com ([65.55.34.199]) by
 COL004-OMC4S16.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft
 SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Thu, 30 Jul 2015 11:21:55 -0700
Resent-Message-ID: col004-mc3f33f2189c5cc400f50951e5c9...@phx.gbl
Resent-To: myacco...@gmail.com
Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 11:21:55 -0700
Resent-From: myacco...@hotmail.com
X-HM-Routing-Path: 
+tYAoiJsCIZZ+5v4HRyIibLIG7ufv4KPyAQNAnIf34/uop6v2JKIAU5O09+6m5C1q04HwYX26tsK7oE6J82ofaue6IycEJm0994KgOCqqg3M+s7+G4+eG11m9nPUmd2BIpp1RNtTW0n4bZeN+lMudft9uWiOpe4snBAWz438JUKMr9zvIodFWE/LjRZPJUvL9la5i7Ny3v4=

 Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 20:28:58 +0100
 From: rwmailli...@googlemail.com
 To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
 Subject: Re: Ignore forwarding headers from specific sender
 
 On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 13:21:35 -0500
 Al B wrote:
 
  I have 2 accounts:
  myaccount@gmail.commyacco...@hotmail.com
  I've been using Spamassassin with both accounts and all has been
  well. Recently I decided to have Hotmail forward email to my Gmail
  account, so that I only have to check one account. Is there anyway
  to tell Spamassassin to ignore any headers added by
  myacco...@hotmail.com? blacklist_from s...@spam.com An email I
  receive from s...@spam.com using the Hotmail account is correctly
  identified as being from a blacklisted sender. However, the same
  email after being forwarded to Gmail is seen as coming from
  myacco...@hotmail.com and is not blacklisted. Is there anyway around
  this?
 
 Not if there is a Resent-From header. However, that heady is usually
 only added on manual forwarding, not when mail is being redirected
 automatically.
 
 
 
  

Ignore forwarding headers from specific sender

2015-07-30 Thread Al B
I have 2 accounts:
myaccount@gmail.commyacco...@hotmail.com
I've been using  Spamassassin with both accounts and all has been well.  
Recently I decided to have Hotmail forward email to my Gmail account, so that I 
only have to check one account.  Is there anyway to tell Spamassassin to ignore 
any headers added by myacco...@hotmail.com?
blacklist_from  s...@spam.com
An email I receive from s...@spam.com using the Hotmail account is correctly 
identified as being from a blacklisted sender.  However, the same email after 
being forwarded to Gmail is seen as coming from myacco...@hotmail.com and is 
not blacklisted. 
Is there anyway around this?  If so, can you point me in the right direction.
Thanks

RE: Ignore forwarding headers from specific sender

2015-07-30 Thread John Hardin

On Thu, 30 Jul 2015, John Hardin wrote:


On Thu, 30 Jul 2015, Al B wrote:


 It appears that Hotmail does include the Resent-From header, see below. I
 think I've gotten around the issue by creating a python script to strip
 the forwarding headers, before sending the email to Spamassassin.


It might be easier to strip the Resent-From: myacco...@hotmail.com 
header...


...or alter it to X-Resent-From: if you don't want to lose the history 
completely...


--
 John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/
 jhar...@impsec.orgFALaholic #11174 pgpk -a jhar...@impsec.org
 key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C  AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79
---
  The fetters imposed on liberty at home have ever been forged out
  of the weapons provided for defense against real, pretended, or
  imaginary dangers from abroad.   -- James Madison, 1799
---
 6 days until the 280th anniversary of John Peter Zenger's acquittal