Multiple image spams: best practices?

2006-08-08 Thread Jeff Chan
Aside from the experimental OCR some folks are trying, what SA
techniques are folks having good luck with for stopping those
stock spams that are multiple, vertical images?

Jeff C.
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Re: Multiple image spams: best practices?

2006-08-08 Thread Jeff Chan
On Tuesday, August 8, 2006, 8:08:04 AM, Jeff Chan wrote:
 Aside from the experimental OCR some folks are trying, what SA
 techniques are folks having good luck with for stopping those
 stock spams that are multiple, vertical images?

Any technique for single image stock spams would be welcomed too!

Jeff C.
-- 
Jeff Chan
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.surbl.org/



Re: Multiple image spams: best practices?

2006-08-08 Thread decoder
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Jeff Chan wrote:
 On Tuesday, August 8, 2006, 8:08:04 AM, Jeff Chan wrote:
 Aside from the experimental OCR some folks are trying, what SA
 techniques are folks having good luck with for stopping those
 stock spams that are multiple, vertical images?

 Any technique for single image stock spams would be welcomed too!

 Je

Well the OCR technique is quite effective in my tests, so far it works
for jpegs and gifs, and I'm extending it to pngs. I will soon release
a new version in the wiki.

Any specific reason why you don't want to use OCR?

Chris
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Re: Multiple image spams: best practices?

2006-08-08 Thread Bill Randle
On Tue, 2006-08-08 at 08:22 -0700, Jeff Chan wrote:
 On Tuesday, August 8, 2006, 8:08:04 AM, Jeff Chan wrote:
  Aside from the experimental OCR some folks are trying, what SA
  techniques are folks having good luck with for stopping those
  stock spams that are multiple, vertical images?
 
 Any technique for single image stock spams would be welcomed too!

I haven't had a single stock spam get through since adding the
ImageInfo plugin. (Note this is not the same as the OCR plugin.)

-Bill




Re: Multiple image spams: best practices?

2006-08-08 Thread Jeff Chan
On Tuesday, August 8, 2006, 8:26:18 AM, decoder decoder wrote:
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 Jeff Chan wrote:
 On Tuesday, August 8, 2006, 8:08:04 AM, Jeff Chan wrote:
 Aside from the experimental OCR some folks are trying, what SA
 techniques are folks having good luck with for stopping those
 stock spams that are multiple, vertical images?

 Any technique for single image stock spams would be welcomed too!

 Je

 Well the OCR technique is quite effective in my tests, so far it works
 for jpegs and gifs, and I'm extending it to pngs. I will soon release
 a new version in the wiki.

 Any specific reason why you don't want to use OCR?

I assume it's CPU intensive or at least adds some overhead to
already busy SA servers  Maybe it's a wrong assumption?

Jeff C.
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Jeff Chan
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.surbl.org/



Re: Multiple image spams: best practices?

2006-08-08 Thread Matthias Keller

Jeff Chan wrote:

On Tuesday, August 8, 2006, 8:08:04 AM, Jeff Chan wrote:
  

Aside from the experimental OCR some folks are trying, what SA
techniques are folks having good luck with for stopping those
stock spams that are multiple, vertical images?



Any technique for single image stock spams would be welcomed too!

Jeff C.
  
Well, I'm using the ImageInfo Plugin for some days now with quite good 
results (doesn't catch all tough) and I'm using the FuzzyOCR for a few 
hours too with positive results too...


I guess these are the only real countermeasures against this type of 
spam at the moment because as long as you dont look at the picture 
itself you can't really distinguish a stock spam from a normal inline 
picture in a text message


Just my 2c
Matt


Re: Multiple image spams: best practices?

2006-08-08 Thread decoder
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Jeff Chan wrote:
 On Tuesday, August 8, 2006, 8:26:18 AM, decoder decoder wrote:
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 Jeff Chan wrote:
 On Tuesday, August 8, 2006, 8:08:04 AM, Jeff Chan wrote:
 Aside from the experimental OCR some folks are trying, what
 SA techniques are folks having good luck with for stopping
 those stock spams that are multiple, vertical images?
 Any technique for single image stock spams would be welcomed
 too!

 Je

 Well the OCR technique is quite effective in my tests, so far it
 works for jpegs and gifs, and I'm extending it to pngs. I will
 soon release a new version in the wiki.

 Any specific reason why you don't want to use OCR?

 I assume it's CPU intensive or at least adds some overhead to
 already busy SA servers  Maybe it's a wrong assumption?

 Jeff C.

I noticed that the OCR process itself does not seem to be so CPU
consuming, but imagemagick was often consuming resources (which I
replaced now). Anyway, sure it adds some overhead, but if you take
into account that the whole test only even starts when an image is
found, then this doesn't seem too bad to me. Not every mail I get
contains an image, lets say every tenth maybe. That is acceptable for
me at least.

Chris
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