Re: Need God/Christian rule sets

[Marc Perkel]

On 10/3/2010 8:10 PM, John Hardin wrote:

On Sun, 3 Oct 2010, Marc Perkel wrote:

As I said in my original message. The rule itself would have no 
points. It would be combined with other rules like large sums of 
money and transfer and I'm someone you don't know.


You mean, like the ADVANCE_FEE and MONEY_FRAUD rules?



Yes - rules like that.

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AW: Need God/Christian rule sets

[Hans-Werner Friedemann]

That´s not complicated!
Only use the RelayCountry-Plugin.


>> I'd like to just block all Arabic.


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Re: AW: Need God/Christian rule sets

[Jason Haar]

 On 10/04/2010 06:51 PM, Hans-Werner Friedemann wrote:
> That´s not complicated!
> Only use the RelayCountry-Plugin.

Huh? You are suggesting Arabic spam exclusively comes from Arabic
countries? The same way English spam only comes from England? ;-)

What you want is a properly working textcat plugin (see my previous post
"are there any alternatives to textcat?"). However, language matching is
actually a very difficult thing in this Unicode era... Even that
apostrophe you put in your email isn't an ASCII apostrophe - a language
"guesser" has to take a lot of things into account...

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Re: Need God/Christian rule sets

[John Hardin]

On Sun, 3 Oct 2010, Marc Perkel wrote:

As I said in my original message. The rule itself would have no points. 
It would be combined with other rules like large sums of money and 
transfer and I'm someone you don't know.


You mean, like the ADVANCE_FEE and MONEY_FRAUD rules?

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Re: Need God/Christian rule sets

[Marc Perkel]

On 10/3/2010 12:09 PM, Michelle Konzack wrote:

Hello Marc,

Am 2010-10-03 09:21:02, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:

  I think we could catch a lot more spam if we had some God/Christian
rules.

Hey, thats cool!!  I need rules for Allah/Islamic stuff!

Problem 1:  They are written in arabic, urdu and two other
 languages I do not know.

Problem 2:  Arabic, Urdu and Farsi are three of my communication
 languages and can not globaly filtered.

Any suggestions?

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening
 Michelle Konzack




I'd like to just block all Arabic.


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Re: Need God/Christian rule sets

[Marc Perkel]

 As I said in my original message. The rule itself would have no 
points. It would be combined with other rules like large sums of money 
and transfer and I'm someone you don't know.


On 10/3/2010 10:27 AM, m...@khonji.org wrote:

How do you propose to make such relations between the keywords, and how to 
mitigate false positives?

Naïve Bayes deals with words independently. If we want to link between words, I 
think we are into Natural Language Processing (NLP).

If you have any good thoughts please share.


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Re: Need God/Christian rule sets

[Michelle Konzack]

Hello Marc,

Am 2010-10-03 09:21:02, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:
>  I think we could catch a lot more spam if we had some God/Christian
> rules.

Hey, thats cool!!  I need rules for Allah/Islamic stuff!

Problem 1:  They are written in arabic, urdu and two other
languages I do not know.

Problem 2:  Arabic, Urdu and Farsi are three of my communication
languages and can not globaly filtered.

Any suggestions?

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening
Michelle Konzack

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Re: Need God/Christian rule sets

[m]

How do you propose to make such relations between the keywords, and how to 
mitigate false positives?

Naïve Bayes deals with words independently. If we want to link between words, I 
think we are into Natural Language Processing (NLP).

If you have any good thoughts please share.


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Need God/Christian rule sets

[Marc Perkel]

 I think we could catch a lot more spam if we had some God/Christian 
rules. Not that these rules should generate any point by themselves as 
there is a lot of religious non spam. But a lot of spam is enhanced with 
God/Christian language. When these rules are combined with other rules I 
think it would be very effective. Especially in a spam like:


I am a stranger - I and a devout Christian - I have a large sum of money 
that I will share with you - we need to keep this secret - contact me at 
my private email address - God bless you.


When Christian is combined with large sums of money and they don't know 
you, and want to tansfer the money to you it's pretty clear that spam. 
The idea is to create rules that do more than catch phrases but combine 
them to catch the whole story.