Re: OT: Re: Unsubscribe link at the bottom.

2021-04-07 Thread Alex Woick

John Hardin schrieb am 06.04.2021 um 16:34:

On Mon, 5 Apr 2021, Grant Taylor wrote:


On 4/5/21 8:41 PM, Peter West wrote:
I’d agree it’s address verification, as with the Unsubscribe link at 
the bottom.


I'm of the opinion that if I have any inclining of knowledge of the 
company sending the email, and SPF/DKIM/DMARC pass, I'll probably use 
the unsubscribe link.


Recently I ran into a 404 from the unsubscribe link from a company 
that my wife did business with.  *facepalm*


What ticks me off is an unsubscribe link that goes to a 
javascript-heavy page and that *won't work* without javascript.


And an unsubscribe link with a huge identifying key on it, yet the 
unsubscribe page still asks you to enter your email address...


As far as I see it, unsubscribe links from spammers are placebo, because 
the "campaign" or "mailing list" or "newsletter" is created for just one 
mass mailing session, then never used again. You don't need to 
unsubscribe (nor the spammer need to provide a real working unsubscribe 
functionality), because your address isn't used for *this* mailing list 
again anyway. However, it's used for creating a whole new mailing list 
tomorrow and a second one the day after tomorrow, but that's a 
completely different newsletter than the one from today (as the spammer 
would say, why he continues sending although you unsubscribed).




Re: OT: Re: Unsubscribe link at the bottom.

2021-04-06 Thread Grant Taylor

On 4/6/21 8:34 AM, John Hardin wrote:
What ticks me off is an unsubscribe link that goes to a javascript-heavy 
page and that *won't work* without javascript.


And an unsubscribe link with a huge identifying key on it, yet the 
unsubscribe page still asks you to enter your email address...


Ya

Those types of senders usually end up banned on my server with a custom 
comment to that effect.




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Re: OT: Re: Unsubscribe link at the bottom.

2021-04-06 Thread John Hardin

On Mon, 5 Apr 2021, Grant Taylor wrote:


On 4/5/21 8:41 PM, Peter West wrote:
I’d agree it’s address verification, as with the Unsubscribe link at the 
bottom.


I'm of the opinion that if I have any inclining of knowledge of the company 
sending the email, and SPF/DKIM/DMARC pass, I'll probably use the unsubscribe 
link.


Recently I ran into a 404 from the unsubscribe link from a company that my 
wife did business with.  *facepalm*


What ticks me off is an unsubscribe link that goes to a javascript-heavy 
page and that *won't work* without javascript.


And an unsubscribe link with a huge identifying key on it, yet the 
unsubscribe page still asks you to enter your email address...



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Re: OT: Re: Unsubscribe link at the bottom.

2021-04-05 Thread Peter West
Yes. I meant the unsubscribe link from an unknown advertiser.
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> On 6 Apr 2021, at 12:50 pm, Grant Taylor  wrote:
> 
> On 4/5/21 8:41 PM, Peter West wrote:
>> I’d agree it’s address verification, as with the Unsubscribe link at the 
>> bottom.
> 
> I'm of the opinion that if I have any inclining of knowledge of the company 
> sending the email, and SPF/DKIM/DMARC pass, I'll probably use the unsubscribe 
> link.
> 
> Recently I ran into a 404 from the unsubscribe link from a company that my 
> wife did business with.  *facepalm*
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Grant. . . .
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> 



OT: Re: Unsubscribe link at the bottom.

2021-04-05 Thread Grant Taylor

On 4/5/21 8:41 PM, Peter West wrote:
I’d agree it’s address verification, as with the Unsubscribe link 
at the bottom.


I'm of the opinion that if I have any inclining of knowledge of the 
company sending the email, and SPF/DKIM/DMARC pass, I'll probably use 
the unsubscribe link.


Recently I ran into a 404 from the unsubscribe link from a company that 
my wife did business with.  *facepalm*




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