Re: Per-user capabilities

2004-11-04 Thread jdow
From: "Loren Wilton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> > However you should examine what proportion of mail nowadays, arriving
from
> > the internet, *is* addressed to multiple users in the one SMTP
> > transaction.  This may appear to be a major failing, but in my
experience
> > it's just not, in real-world use.
>
> In my experience, virtually all multi-address mail that I receive (and ALL
> multi-address mail where all destinations are at the same ISP) are spam.
>
> Thus an acceptable solution would be to automatically tag all
multi-address
> mail as spam.  :-)

The bigger the ISP the less true this will be. Since the most local ISP
here is two people that's a generally good rule. If the email includes
Earthlink addresses beyond the two if us it's likely spam. I'd give a
modest score to multiple addressed email in general usage. That way
ad hoc mailing lists that last a couple weeks would not get penalized
too badly.

{^_-}




Re: Per-user capabilities

2004-11-03 Thread Loren Wilton
> However you should examine what proportion of mail nowadays, arriving from
> the internet, *is* addressed to multiple users in the one SMTP
> transaction.  This may appear to be a major failing, but in my experience
> it's just not, in real-world use.

In my experience, virtually all multi-address mail that I receive (and ALL
multi-address mail where all destinations are at the same ISP) are spam.

Thus an acceptable solution would be to automatically tag all multi-address
mail as spam.  :-)

Loren



Re: Per-user capabilities

2004-11-02 Thread Justin Mason
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Khalid Waheed writes:
> SpamAssassin has all sorts of per-user capabilities, including whitelists, 
> rule weights, and Bayesian filtering.
> But all of this stuff is totally useless in some mail servers (e.g.
> SunOne messaging server), for the simple reason that being able to
> process mail for multiple users simultaneously is an absolutely
> critical capability, and SpamAssassin is simply not designed to offer
> this capability.

yep.

However you should examine what proportion of mail nowadays, arriving from
the internet, *is* addressed to multiple users in the one SMTP
transaction.  This may appear to be a major failing, but in my experience
it's just not, in real-world use.

Sounds like SunOne needs an interface that can cope with that.

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Re: Per-user capabilities

2004-11-02 Thread jdow
From: "Khalid Waheed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> SpamAssassin has all sorts of per-user capabilities, including whitelists,
rule weights, and Bayesian filtering.
> But all of this stuff is totally useless in some mail servers (e.g. SunOne
messaging server), for the simple reason that being able to process mail for
multiple users simultaneously is an absolutely critical capability, and
SpamAssassin is simply not designed to offer this capability.

Sh, please, not so loud. My system might hear you and get funny ideas.

{o.o}




Per-user capabilities

2004-11-02 Thread Khalid Waheed

SpamAssassin has all sorts of per-user capabilities, including whitelists, rule 
weights, and Bayesian filtering.
But all of this stuff is totally useless in some mail servers (e.g. SunOne 
messaging server), for the simple reason that being able to process mail for 
multiple users simultaneously is an absolutely critical capability, and 
SpamAssassin is simply not designed to offer this capability.