RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED whitelisting FREEMAIL

2013-08-25 Thread Jason Haar
Hi there

I just received some spam - got a score below 0. The real surprise was
the -2 points it got from RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED - a surprise because the
domain was yahoo.co.uk!

I have no idea why DNSWL would ever give a negative score to any
FREEMAIL (I use the SA rulename there) server - all free mail services
will be prone to misuse

So I'm thinking of trying to counteract that via

metaUNDO_DNSWL_WHITELIST   ( (RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED) && 
FREEMAIL_FROM)
describeUNDO_DNSWL_WHITELIST   don't allow RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED
to whitelist freemail
score   UNDO_DNSWL_WHITELIST   2.0


Anyone see anything fundamentally wrong with that? It seems so obvious,
I'm thinking I've overlooked something :-)

-- 
Cheers

Jason Haar
Information Security Manager, Trimble Navigation Ltd.
Phone: +1 408 481 8171
PGP Fingerprint: 7A2E 0407 C9A6 CAF6 2B9F 8422 C063 5EBB FE1D 66D1



Re: RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED whitelisting FREEMAIL

2013-08-25 Thread Matthias Leisi
Could you please share the IP address (better: relevant Received:
header)? This seems like an error in our data.

-- Matthias, for the dnswl.org project

On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 10:19 PM, Jason Haar  wrote:
> Hi there
>
> I just received some spam - got a score below 0. The real surprise was
> the -2 points it got from RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED - a surprise because the
> domain was yahoo.co.uk!
>
> I have no idea why DNSWL would ever give a negative score to any
> FREEMAIL (I use the SA rulename there) server - all free mail services
> will be prone to misuse
>
> So I'm thinking of trying to counteract that via
>
> metaUNDO_DNSWL_WHITELIST   ( (RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED) &&
> FREEMAIL_FROM)
> describeUNDO_DNSWL_WHITELIST   don't allow RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED
> to whitelist freemail
> score   UNDO_DNSWL_WHITELIST   2.0
>
>
> Anyone see anything fundamentally wrong with that? It seems so obvious,
> I'm thinking I've overlooked something :-)
>
> --
> Cheers
>
> Jason Haar
> Information Security Manager, Trimble Navigation Ltd.
> Phone: +1 408 481 8171
> PGP Fingerprint: 7A2E 0407 C9A6 CAF6 2B9F 8422 C063 5EBB FE1D 66D1
>


Re: RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED whitelisting FREEMAIL

2013-08-26 Thread Benny Pedersen

Jason Haar skrev den :

Anyone see anything fundamentally wrong with that? It seems so 
obvious,

I'm thinking I've overlooked something :-)


using domain names in iptables ?

dnswl is based on ips, freemail is based on domain names, if you see 
stable results then it works :-)


best option is to sign up as a dnswl reporter, and the report is as 
spam


Re: RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED whitelisting FREEMAIL

2013-08-26 Thread Jason Haar
On 26/08/13 20:16, Benny Pedersen wrote:
> Jason Haar skrev den :
>
>> Anyone see anything fundamentally wrong with that? It seems so obvious,
>> I'm thinking I've overlooked something :-)
>
> using domain names in iptables ?
>
> dnswl is based on ips, freemail is based on domain names, if you see
> stable results then it works :-)
>
>
d'oh! So it is. The IP was whitelisted - nothing to do with yahoo.co.uk

 Yep - looks like it was a good thing I asked ;-)


Thanks! And I'll report the spam to DNSWL too

-- 
Cheers

Jason Haar
Information Security Manager, Trimble Navigation Ltd.
Phone: +1 408 481 8171
PGP Fingerprint: 7A2E 0407 C9A6 CAF6 2B9F 8422 C063 5EBB FE1D 66D1