RE: Autolearn with exchange or groupwise

2005-04-29 Thread Johnson, S
 
This may not be a bad idea.  I'll go look for that script to read the folders.

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To: users@spamassassin.apache.org 
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Subject: RE: Autolearn with exchange or groupwise



> From: Johnson, S
> Once the message has left the linux spamassassin and forwarded onto a
> mail server, say exchange or groupwise.  How can I save the message
> so that SA could autolearn the message?  The headers and such are not
> saved if I copy and paste the mail into a text file.  I also don't
> want to set up a folder that would automatically pick up "spam"
> messages.  (people don't seem to know the difference between a mail
> list and spam so it would have to be manually checked) 

Kang, Joseph S. wrote:
> I've done it via a pair of public folders under MS Exchange (FPs and
> FNs).  Then I use a perl script that can access those folders via
> IMAP from the Linux box.  If you look on the SA wiki, I think there
> is a link to a script.  I have it set up to run automatically every
> few hours via CRON but you could just run the script by hand once
> you've checked through the folders first.
>
> -Joe K.

Or you could set up four folders:

Visible to everyone:
FN: spam but not tagged
FP: tagged but not spam

Visible only to you and the IMAP account that SA uses:
sa-learn as spam
sa-learn as ham

You could instruct people to drag/drop to the FN and FP folders.
You could set up a cron job to have SA learn from the sa-learn folders.

Periodically you could review the FN and FP folders manually - drag 
true FN's and true FP's to the correct sa-learn folder - and 
rebuke^H^H^H^Htrain submitters of spurious FP's or FN's.

Matthew.van.Eerde (at) hbinc.com 805.964.4554 x902
Hispanic Business Inc./HireDiversity.com Software Engineer
perl -e"map{y/a-z/l-za-k/;print}shift" "Jjhi pcdiwtg Ptga wprztg,"




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RE: Autolearn with exchange or groupwise

2005-04-29 Thread Johnson, S
Wow, I didn't know that.  Thanks.  I'll check that out.

-Original Message- 
From: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thu 4/28/2005 2:12 PM 
To: Johnson, S 
Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org 
    Subject: Re: Autolearn with exchange or groupwise



Johnson, S wrote:

> Iâm working on getting things optimized fully in our filter. I think
> the spammers have been working over time lately.
>
> Once the message has left the linux spamassassin and forwarded onto a
> mail server, say exchange or groupwise.
>
Many have made suggestions about Exchange, so I'll leave that topic 
alone.

In Groupwise, if you right click the message and select "view" instead
of "open", you will be able to see a list of attachments to the message.
The attachment named "mime.822" is the complete message, with full
headers and mime sections. This file can be fed to sa-learn.

If you "open" the message, recent versions of groupwise will hide this
attachment to avoid confusing users, but it's still accessible if you
"view" it.




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Re: Autolearn with exchange or groupwise

2005-04-28 Thread Matt Kettler
Johnson, S wrote:

> I’m working on getting things optimized fully in our filter. I think
> the spammers have been working over time lately.
>
> Once the message has left the linux spamassassin and forwarded onto a
> mail server, say exchange or groupwise.
>
Many have made suggestions about Exchange, so I'll leave that topic alone.

In Groupwise, if you right click the message and select "view" instead
of "open", you will be able to see a list of attachments to the message.
The attachment named "mime.822" is the complete message, with full
headers and mime sections. This file can be fed to sa-learn.

If you "open" the message, recent versions of groupwise will hide this
attachment to avoid confusing users, but it's still accessible if you
"view" it.


RE: Autolearn with exchange or groupwise

2005-04-28 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
> From: Johnson, S
> Once the message has left the linux spamassassin and forwarded onto a
> mail server, say exchange or groupwise.  How can I save the message
> so that SA could autolearn the message?  The headers and such are not
> saved if I copy and paste the mail into a text file.  I also don't
> want to set up a folder that would automatically pick up "spam"
> messages.  (people don't seem to know the difference between a mail
> list and spam so it would have to be manually checked)  

Kang, Joseph S. wrote:
> I've done it via a pair of public folders under MS Exchange (FPs and
> FNs).  Then I use a perl script that can access those folders via
> IMAP from the Linux box.  If you look on the SA wiki, I think there
> is a link to a script.  I have it set up to run automatically every
> few hours via CRON but you could just run the script by hand once
> you've checked through the folders first. 
> 
> -Joe K.

Or you could set up four folders:

Visible to everyone:
FN: spam but not tagged
FP: tagged but not spam

Visible only to you and the IMAP account that SA uses:
sa-learn as spam
sa-learn as ham

You could instruct people to drag/drop to the FN and FP folders.
You could set up a cron job to have SA learn from the sa-learn folders.

Periodically you could review the FN and FP folders manually - drag true FN's 
and true FP's to the correct sa-learn folder - and rebuke^H^H^H^Htrain 
submitters of spurious FP's or FN's.

Matthew.van.Eerde (at) hbinc.com 805.964.4554 x902
Hispanic Business Inc./HireDiversity.com Software Engineer
perl -e"map{y/a-z/l-za-k/;print}shift" "Jjhi pcdiwtg Ptga wprztg," 


RE: Autolearn with exchange or groupwise

2005-04-28 Thread Kang, Joseph S.
Title: Message



I've 
done it via a pair of public folders under MS Exchange (FPs and FNs).  Then 
I use a perl script that can access those folders via IMAP from the Linux 
box.  If you look on the SA wiki, I think there is a link to a 
script.  I have it set up to run automatically every few hours via CRON but 
you could just run the script by hand once you've checked through the folders 
first.
 
-Joe 
K.

  
  -Original Message-From: Johnson, S 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 
  1:34 PMTo: users@spamassassin.apache.orgSubject: 
  Autolearn with exchange or groupwise
  
  I'm working on getting things 
  optimized fully in our filter.  I think the spammers have been working 
  over time lately.
   
  Once the message has left the 
  linux spamassassin and forwarded onto a mail server, say exchange or 
  groupwise.  How can I save the message so that SA could autolearn the 
  message?  The headers and such are not saved if I copy and paste the mail 
  into a text file.  I also don't want to set up a folder that would 
  automatically pick up "spam" messages.  (people don't seem to know the 
  difference between a mail list and spam so it would have to be manually 
  checked)
   
  Thanks
  
  
  
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  it is a confidential pupil record under Minnesota Law and may not be reviewed, 
  distributed, or copied by any person other than the individual(s) to whom it 
  is addressed. This electronic communication is intended solely for the use of 
  the individual(s) to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended 
  recipient, any further review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this 
  electronic communication or any attachment thereto is strictly prohibited. If 
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