Re: How are cllassified this?

2007-04-04 Thread Anthony Peacock

Rocco Scappatura wrote:

full CHIME_BODY_IMAGESHACK/\bhttp:\/\/.*\.imageshack\.us/i
describe CHIME_BODY_IMAGESHACKEmails containing 
imageshack.us URLs.

scoreCHIME_BODY_IMAGESHACK2.0

Place these three lines in your local.cf file and restart any 
daemons. 
You can adjust the score to whatever you want.


This URL is very indiscriminant, in that it will score for 
ANY URL from imageshack.us, and not just the spammy ones.  
But in my situation this is acceptable.


But It won't be indiscriminant in my case.. Is there any other solution?


Keep messages on the list.

These are very simple messages that are exploiting an image hosting 
service.  There are very few spam signs in them.  I have decided that 
for the time being none of my users are affected by scoring purely on 
the imageshack.us url.


In cases like these it is very difficult to come up with generic 
solutions that fit everyones requirements.  Which is why I would 
recommend that you have a look at learning how to write very simple 
rules.  That way you will be able to write something that meets your 
very specific needs.  If you are uncertain of your rules, you should set 
a small score (say 0.1) first so that any misfires do not have a major 
affect on overall scoring, but you can see them in your results.  You 
can also send your rules to this list and the regulars here will be able 
to check them out and give you advice.


Failing that you will have to be very specific about your requirements 
for these spams, and someone might be able to suggest a rule that meets 
your needs.



--
Anthony Peacock
CHIME, Royal Free  University College Medical School
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then you and I will still each have  one apple. But  if you have an
idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us
will have two ideas. -- George Bernard Shaw


RE: How are cllassified this?

2007-04-04 Thread Rocco Scappatura
  But It won't be indiscriminant in my case.. Is there any 
 other solution?
 
 Keep messages on the list.
 
 These are very simple messages that are exploiting an image 
 hosting service.  There are very few spam signs in them.  I 
 have decided that for the time being none of my users are 
 affected by scoring purely on the imageshack.us url.
 
 In cases like these it is very difficult to come up with 
 generic solutions that fit everyones requirements.  Which is 
 why I would recommend that you have a look at learning how to 
 write very simple rules.  That way you will be able to write 
 something that meets your very specific needs.  If you are 
 uncertain of your rules, you should set a small score (say 
 0.1) first so that any misfires do not have a major affect on 
 overall scoring, but you can see them in your results.  You 
 can also send your rules to this list and the regulars here 
 will be able to check them out and give you advice.
 
 Failing that you will have to be very specific about your 
 requirements for these spams, and someone might be able to 
 suggest a rule that meets your needs.

Thank you. You are very clear..

I'm going to think that I will try to use you're rule, and then I'll
observ what happen..

rocsca


RE: How are cllassified this?

2007-04-03 Thread Duncan Hill
Yay, spammy has morphed, and the pattern that was working doesn't work
(the morph appears to be making the filenames truly random now):

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/6834/mchd6.jpg
http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=5bsoda1.jpg
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/3335/68jo5.jpg

the server + path is controlled by imageshack I think, but the filename is
up to the spammer.



Re: How are cllassified this?

2007-04-03 Thread Anthony Peacock

Hi,

Duncan Hill wrote:

Yay, spammy has morphed, and the pattern that was working doesn't work
(the morph appears to be making the filenames truly random now):

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/6834/mchd6.jpg
http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=5bsoda1.jpg
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/3335/68jo5.jpg

the server + path is controlled by imageshack I think, but the filename is
up to the spammer.


To be honest, I have given a score to anything that has a URL from 
imageshack.us in it.  The score isn't enough to put the email over the 
limit on its own, but with Bayes and a couple of others it does the trick.


--
Anthony Peacock
CHIME, Royal Free  University College Medical School
WWW:http://www.chime.ucl.ac.uk/~rmhiajp/
If you have an apple and I have  an apple and we  exchange apples
then you and I will still each have  one apple. But  if you have an
idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us
will have two ideas. -- George Bernard Shaw


Re: How are cllassified this?

2007-04-02 Thread John D. Hardin
On Mon, 2 Apr 2007, Rocco Scappatura wrote:

 What I can't figure out is if this is a new kind of spam or if I
 can update it using the available rulesets (with sa-update or
 RDJ).
 
 Can some one give an hint?

 Received: from dsl51B7EDE5.pool.t-online.hu
 (dsl51B7EDE5.pool.t-online.hu [81.183.237.229])
   by av3.stt.vir (Postfix) with ESMTP id 315D47500F7
   for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon,  2 Apr 2007 17:21:05 +0200 (CEST)

Is av3.stt.vir your public MTA? If so, the botnet plugin from
http://people.ucsc.edu/~jrudd/spamassassin/ might help. That looks 
like a dynamic-host rDNS.

 Search engine, fax scanting software?

scanting? Bayes might help.

 http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/5553/webvq2.gif

Huh. That's not good URIBL fodder.

As was suggested, add a little to the score for an imageshack.us URI.

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RE: How are cllassified this?

2007-04-02 Thread Randal, Phil
A large score for ImageShack uris, not a small one, would seem to be in
order, otherwise a good proportion end up in people's mailboxes.

Unfortunately ImageShack's report abuse link on their webpage (
http://reg.imageshack.us/content.php?page=emailq=abuse ) isn't
responding, so I guess I'm not the only one trying to complain.

We've trapped 2000 of the critters in the last 4 1/2 hours with the aid
of the obvious uri rule and a bit of Bayes training.

Cheers,

Phil
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Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK  

 -Original Message-
 From: John D. Hardin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 02 April 2007 17:00
 To: SpamAssassin Users List
 Subject: Re: How are cllassified this?
 
 On Mon, 2 Apr 2007, Rocco Scappatura wrote:
 
  What I can't figure out is if this is a new kind of spam or if I
  can update it using the available rulesets (with sa-update or
  RDJ).
  
  Can some one give an hint?
 
  Received: from dsl51B7EDE5.pool.t-online.hu
  (dsl51B7EDE5.pool.t-online.hu [81.183.237.229])
  by av3.stt.vir (Postfix) with ESMTP id 315D47500F7
  for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon,  2 Apr 2007 17:21:05 +0200 (CEST)
 
 Is av3.stt.vir your public MTA? If so, the botnet plugin from
 http://people.ucsc.edu/~jrudd/spamassassin/ might help. That looks 
 like a dynamic-host rDNS.
 
  Search engine, fax scanting software?
 
 scanting? Bayes might help.
 
  http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/5553/webvq2.gif
 
 Huh. That's not good URIBL fodder.
 
 As was suggested, add a little to the score for an imageshack.us URI.
 
 --
  John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]FALaholic #11174 pgpk -a [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C  AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79
 --
 -
   Gun Control laws cannot reduce violent crime, because gun control
   laws focus obsessively on a tool a criminal might use to commit a
   crime rather than the criminal himself and his act of violence.
 --
 -
  11 days until Thomas Jefferson's 264th Birthday
 
 


Re: How are cllassified this?

2007-04-02 Thread Duncan Hill
On Mon, April 2, 2007 16:34, Rocco Scappatura wrote:

 What I can't figure out is if this is a new kind of spam or if I can
 update it using the available rulesets (with sa-update or RDJ).

 Search engine, fax scanting software?
 http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/5553/webvq2.gif

Custom ruleset will be the fastest way to catch these.  A single regex
works quite well.

http:\/\/img\d{3}\.imageshack\.us\/img\d{3}\/\d{4}\/web\w{2}\d\.gif

for instance.  Implementing it is left as an exercise for the reader.



RE: How are cllassified this?

2007-04-02 Thread John D. Hardin
On Mon, 2 Apr 2007, Randal, Phil wrote:

 A large score for ImageShack uris, not a small one, would seem to
 be in order, otherwise a good proportion end up in people's
 mailboxes.

I'm not familiar with ImageShack - is it public hosting of images ala
Flickr, such that people might legitimately send hey, look at this
picture I just took! type emails?

 Unfortunately ImageShack's report abuse link on their webpage (
 http://reg.imageshack.us/content.php?page=emailq=abuse ) isn't
 responding, so I guess I'm not the only one trying to complain.
 
 We've trapped 2000 of the critters in the last 4 1/2 hours with the aid
 of the obvious uri rule and a bit of Bayes training.

Yow.

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RE: How are cllassified this?

2007-04-02 Thread Duncan Hill
On Mon, April 2, 2007 19:14, John D. Hardin wrote:
 On Mon, 2 Apr 2007, Randal, Phil wrote:


 A large score for ImageShack uris, not a small one, would seem to
 be in order, otherwise a good proportion end up in people's mailboxes.

 I'm not familiar with ImageShack - is it public hosting of images ala
 Flickr, such that people might legitimately send hey, look at this
 picture I just took! type emails?

It is.  Free image hosting, banner ads on the page.

 Unfortunately ImageShack's report abuse link on their webpage (
 http://reg.imageshack.us/content.php?page=emailq=abuse ) isn't
 responding, so I guess I'm not the only one trying to complain.

There are enough variations of the image that they're probably inundated. 
I've managed to report 2 of them, but the URLs are constantly changing
(but are also changing to a pattern).

 We've trapped 2000 of the critters in the last 4 1/2 hours with the aid
  of the obvious uri rule and a bit of Bayes training.

 Yow.

I think one node that I take care of has seen way more than that.  I'll
have to ask it tomorrow.  Bayes has been doing fairly well against them. 
Quite a few also have things like '- (GMT)' in the headers, which
triggers one of the SA rules about timezones.

A good number of them seem to be coming from proper relays too - at least
one had SMTP AUTH header information.  That, actually, is slightly scary,
because if it wasn't faked, it implies that the malware spreading this
spam is picking up more than e-mail addresses.



RE: How are cllassified this?

2007-04-02 Thread John D. Hardin
On Mon, 2 Apr 2007, Duncan Hill wrote:

 A good number of them seem to be coming from proper relays too -
 at least one had SMTP AUTH header information.  That, actually, is
 slightly scary, because if it wasn't faked, it implies that the
 malware spreading this spam is picking up more than e-mail
 addresses.

...not necessarily. The 'bot might be dumping the messages in 
LookOut's outbox and letting it deliver the message along with the 
user's legitimate traffic via their authenticated channel.

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