RE: Spellcheck plugin?
Eugene Morozov wrote: > Loren Wilton wrote: >>> I'm wondering, would it be useful to have a plugin that penalizes >>> messages with many spelling mistakes? This might help against all >>> those creative ways of spelling out what the spammer wants to sell. >> >> >> I don't know that anyone has worked on specifically what you are >> thinking of, which is an interesting idea and worth testing, I think. >> There are things like Tripwire that look for some outright outlandish >> spellings, and lots of things that look for obfuscated specific >> words. >> > > Such a plugin was written by someone about a year ago -- > check gmane archive of sa-users mailing list. It turned out > to be not really reliable method for detecting spam. > Eugene Judging by the overall quality of emails that we get from clients, prospective clients, suppliers etc., I would be very wary of penalising anyone due to spelling - we'd all lose business!! M Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd Hosting, co-location & domains http://www.blacknight.ie/ Tel. +353 59 9137101 -- Email scanned by Blacknight for viruses and dangerous content. Visit http://www.blacknight.ie for more information
Re: Spellcheck plugin?
Loren Wilton wrote: I'm wondering, would it be useful to have a plugin that penalizes messages with many spelling mistakes? This might help against all those creative ways of spelling out what the spammer wants to sell. I don't know that anyone has worked on specifically what you are thinking of, which is an interesting idea and worth testing, I think. There are things like Tripwire that look for some outright outlandish spellings, and lots of things that look for obfuscated specific words. Such a plugin was written by someone about a year ago -- check gmane archive of sa-users mailing list. It turned out to be not really reliable method for detecting spam. Eugene
RE: Spellcheck plugin?
> > > I'm wondering, would it be useful to have a plugin that penalizes > > messages with many spelling mistakes? This might help against all > > those creative ways of spelling out what the spammer wants to sell. > > I don't know that anyone has worked on specifically what you > are thinking of, which is an interesting idea and worth > testing, I think. There are things like Tripwire that look > for some outright outlandish spellings, and lots of things > that look for obfuscated specific words. > Actually I have, and if you search the mail lists quite a ways back, you'll probably find all my findings. I created the eval back in 2.6x to do spell check and create a spelling ratio. The bad thing is, there are a lot of bad speller out there. There are also a lot of things we use in email that just arent dictionary words. SpamAssassin, IMHO, web URI's etc etc... I tried doing many common filters for URIs, accronyms, abbreviations, and such but could never produce a reliable result. And not to mention, its very bad on system resources to spell check email at the server level. This is something for the client level and should remain at the client level. If you want to waste your time on this.. Go for it! All the luck to ya :) Dallas -- Dallas Engelken NMGI
Re: Spellcheck plugin?
> I'm wondering, would it be useful to have a plugin that penalizes messages > with many spelling mistakes? This might help against all those creative > ways of spelling out what the spammer wants to sell. I don't know that anyone has worked on specifically what you are thinking of, which is an interesting idea and worth testing, I think. There are things like Tripwire that look for some outright outlandish spellings, and lots of things that look for obfuscated specific words. Loren
RE: Spellcheck plugin?
>-Original Message- >From: Gaal Yahas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 9:39 AM >To: Spamassassin talk list >Subject: Spellcheck plugin? > > >I'm wondering, would it be useful to have a plugin that >penalizes messages >with many spelling mistakes? This might help against all those creative >ways of spelling out what the spammer wants to sell. > >To have any hope of working for people who expect mail in more than one >language, a language recognition tool would be needed, but fortunately >there are some of those around.[1] > >This adds quite a bit of complexity. Has anyone given it any thought? > Lots of people have. I have spell check on for my outgoing email and it drives me up the wall Too many abreviations, tech speak, no way this would work. But keep thinking of new ways. This idea did seem good at one point. But after everyone discussed it quickly was poo poo'd. :) --Chris
Re: Spellcheck plugin?
At 03:39 PM 10/6/2004 +0200, Gaal Yahas wrote: I'm wondering, would it be useful to have a plugin that penalizes messages with many spelling mistakes? No, it's been suggested before, and tested.. the FP rate was rather high. Bear in mind all the "legitimate" email from AOL users that can barely spell their own names, and choose to use extensive chat-room shortcuts and slang in their emails whut u doin l8er? Search the archives.. Someone comes up with the idea at least twice a year.
