RE: uribl.com implementing ACLs

2007-10-17 Thread Chris Santerre


 -Original Message-
 From: Joseph Brennan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 2:49 PM
 To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
 Subject: RE: uribl.com implementing ACLs
 
 
 
  No donations
 
 IT departments managed by folks with corporate backgrounds don't even
 have a procedure for sending off checks in arbitrary amounts solely
 because somebody thinks it would be a nice thing to do.
 
 Just say that large sites have to pay for rsync and put a price on it.
 That turns it into a routine bill for service and it goes 
 right through,
 and you get much-deserved income.  I'm afraid that's how it works.

I understand what you mean Joseph. But the second we start charging anything
for service, all the rules change. This needs to stay a volunteer service. 

--Chris


RE: uribl.com implementing ACLs

2007-10-16 Thread Chris Santerre
Since the last DDOS it would have been nice if the big guys ran local
mirrors instead of making the problem worse. No donations and hammering away
at the server I wonder why small RBLs drop off the planet. 

I salute every one who has donated time, machines, banwidth, and love to
URIBL. The rest of you leechers need to run a local mirror. 

Damn this seems like a bitchy reply. I'm having a good morning too. Hmmm...
I blame the Red Sox losing! 

--Chris
(The views expressed in this email do not reflect the official position of
URIBL. They are the delusional rantings of someone playing too much xbox 360
at night.)

 -Original Message-
 From: Rick Macdougall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 10:36 AM
 Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org
 Subject: Re: uribl.com implementing ACLs
 
 
 Oli Schacher wrote:
  I've just heard that uribl.com is implementing ACLs for 
 heavy hitters.
  For those running ISP/ASPs doing millions of queries you 
 may want to 
  watch your logs.
  They not blocking queries (yet?) but return a REFUSED
  
 
 
 I believe we are already blocking some major heavy hitters.
 
 REFUSED is a block.
 
 Regards,
 
 Rick
 uribl public mirror owner
 


Re: uribl.com implementing ACLs

2007-10-16 Thread John Rudd


IMO, one of the best and _easiest_ things any site can do to show love 
to any blacklist service is: run a local mirror.  Even better is to run 
a publicly accessible mirror ... but a local mirror lessens your impact 
on the service you're consuming.  Ask them when and often you can pull 
the mirror over, and be as accommodating to them as possible.


Offering donations is always good too ... but, like I said, it's easy to 
do the local mirror, and it can really help reduce the impact on the 
blacklist service.   PLUS it will probably have a noticeable impact on 
the network lookup latency on your own servers.



Chris Santerre wrote:

Since the last DDOS it would have been nice if the big guys ran local
mirrors instead of making the problem worse. No donations and hammering away
at the server I wonder why small RBLs drop off the planet. 


I salute every one who has donated time, machines, banwidth, and love to
URIBL. The rest of you leechers need to run a local mirror. 


Damn this seems like a bitchy reply. I'm having a good morning too. Hmmm...
I blame the Red Sox losing! 


--Chris
(The views expressed in this email do not reflect the official position of
URIBL. They are the delusional rantings of someone playing too much xbox 360
at night.)


-Original Message-
From: Rick Macdougall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 10:36 AM
Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: uribl.com implementing ACLs


Oli Schacher wrote:
I've just heard that uribl.com is implementing ACLs for 

heavy hitters.
For those running ISP/ASPs doing millions of queries you 
may want to 

watch your logs.
They not blocking queries (yet?) but return a REFUSED



I believe we are already blocking some major heavy hitters.

REFUSED is a block.

Regards,

Rick
uribl public mirror owner







RE: uribl.com implementing ACLs

2007-10-16 Thread Joseph Brennan



No donations


IT departments managed by folks with corporate backgrounds don't even
have a procedure for sending off checks in arbitrary amounts solely
because somebody thinks it would be a nice thing to do.

Just say that large sites have to pay for rsync and put a price on it.
That turns it into a routine bill for service and it goes right through,
and you get much-deserved income.  I'm afraid that's how it works.

Joseph Brennan
Columbia University IT