Re: Mailing list is being Spam Filtered by O-365
On 20.04.23 11:20, White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[AEGIS] via users wrote: Is there any chance that SPF and DKIM records could be added to appear in the headers ? The gubba-mint folks are getting extremely medieval about email security. Matus UHLAR - fantomas skrev den 2023-04-20 13:44: SPF is only a DNS issue. On 20.04.23 17:48, Benny Pedersen wrote: only true if domain is not dmarc protected I repeat. SPF is a DNS-only issue. It's not related to mail headers. however, the OP has already confirmed that this problem was already explained. DKIM headers, yes, you should sign your outgoing mail with DKIM. dkim can in dkim spec have t=s; so ensured always aligned to make dkim pass -- Matus UHLAR - fantomas, uh...@fantomas.sk ; http://www.fantomas.sk/ Warning: I wish NOT to receive e-mail advertising to this address. Varovanie: na tuto adresu chcem NEDOSTAVAT akukolvek reklamnu postu. Linux - It's now safe to turn on your computer. Linux - Teraz mozete pocitac bez obav zapnut.
Re: Mailing list is being Spam Filtered by O-365
White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[AEGIS] via users skrev den 2023-04-20 14:35: Forget I asked, please. I got enough detail to know it is not the fault of the lists. +1, spamassassin does not break dkim like other maillists does !
Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Mailing list is being Spam Filtered by O-365
White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[AEGIS] via users skrev den 2023-04-20 13:47: How about this: Authentication-Results: spf=fail (sender IP is 63.88.93.251) <- smtp.mailfrom=lists.freeradius.org; dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none;dmarc=fail action=oreject header.from=lists.freeradius.org;compauth=none reason=452 Received-SPF: Fail (protection.outlook.com: domain of lists.freeradius.org <- does not designate 63.88.93.251 as permitted sender) receiver=protection.outlook.com; client-ip=63.88.93.251; helo=vsmtpx-e100-01.localdomain; lists.freeradius.org is not spamassassin.apache.org report to your forwarder not setting correct envelope sender, doh
Re: Mailing list is being Spam Filtered by O-365
Matus UHLAR - fantomas skrev den 2023-04-20 13:44: On 20.04.23 11:20, White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[AEGIS] via users wrote: Is there any chance that SPF and DKIM records could be added to appear in the headers ? The gubba-mint folks are getting extremely medieval about email security. SPF is only a DNS issue. only true if domain is not dmarc protected DKIM headers, yes, you should sign your outgoing mail with DKIM. dkim can in dkim spec have t=s; so ensured always aligned to make dkim pass
Re: Mailing list is being Spam Filtered by O-365
White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[AEGIS] via users skrev den 2023-04-20 13:20: Is there any chance that SPF and DKIM records could be added to appear in the headers ? ARC-Authentication-Results i=1; mx.microsoft.com 1; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=nasa.gov; dmarc=pass action=none header.from=nasa.gov; dkim=pass header.d=nasa.gov; arc=none its already there ? The gubba-mint folks are getting extremely medieval about email security. unknown here
Re: Mailing list is being Spam Filtered by O-365
Forget I asked, please. I got enough detail to know it is not the fault of the lists.
Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Mailing list is being Spam Filtered by O-365
Am 20.04.23 um 13:20 schrieb White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[AEGIS] via users: > Is there any chance that SPF and DKIM records could be added to appear in the headers ? On 20.04.23 11:47, White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[AEGIS] via users wrote: How about this: Received: from BL0GCC02FT019.eop-gcc02.prod.protection.outlook.com (2a01:111:f400:7d05::201) by CYXPR09CA0020.outlook.office365.com (2603:10b6:930:d4::27) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.6319.25 via Frontend Transport; Thu, 20 Apr 2023 11:27:54 + Authentication-Results: spf=fail (sender IP is 63.88.93.251) <- smtp.mailfrom=lists.freeradius.org; dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none;dmarc=fail action=oreject header.from=lists.freeradius.org;compauth=none reason=452 Received-SPF: Fail (protection.outlook.com: domain of lists.freeradius.org <- does not designate 63.88.93.251 as permitted sender) receiver=protection.outlook.com; client-ip=63.88.93.251; helo=vsmtpx-e100-01.localdomain; Those are just results of checks a server added to the mail. According to those headers they were added by lists.freeradius.org server, but this message received from outlook.som could already contain these headers, since these headers go AFTER the Received: line. You don't need to trust them, they can be faked. ...and spammers will surely start faking them, if anyone chooses to blindly trust such mail headers. When I received your mail from this lists, I saw: Authentication-Results: fantomas.fantomas.sk; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=spamassassin.apache.org Authentication-Results: fantomas.fantomas.sk; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=nasa.gov header.i=@nasa.gov header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=selector1 header.b=NZ4tZwLQ; dkim-atps=neutral Authentication-Results: fantomas.fantomas.sk; arc=fail smtp.remote-ip=3.227.148.255 Authentication-Results: fantomas.fantomas.sk; spf=pass (sender SPF authorized) smtp.mailfrom=spamassassin.apache.org (client-ip=3.227.148.255; helo=mxout1-ec2-va.apache.org; envelope-from=users-return-126707-uhlar=fantomas.sk@spamassassin.apache. org; receiver=) Received: from mxout1-ec2-va.apache.org (mxout1-ec2-va.apache.org [3.227.148.255]) by fantomas.fantomas.sk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3245DA00EA for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2023 13:47:49 +0200 (CEST) so I know that Authentication-Results: were added by my server after receiving this mail from apache.org. -- Matus UHLAR - fantomas, uh...@fantomas.sk ; http://www.fantomas.sk/ Warning: I wish NOT to receive e-mail advertising to this address. Varovanie: na tuto adresu chcem NEDOSTAVAT akukolvek reklamnu postu. BSE = Mad Cow Desease ... BSA = Mad Software Producents Desease
Re: [EXTERNAL] [BULK] Re: Mailing list is being Spam Filtered by O-365
Thanks for the detail. This is good ammunition to go after the techno-pinheads that probably did this to us. From: Noel Butler Date: Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 08:19 To: "users@spamassassin.apache.org" Subject: [EXTERNAL] [BULK] Re: Mailing list is being Spam Filtered by O-365 Oh, same IP again in this message, you are forwarding your mail via verizon business aren't you, no, there is nothing wrong with SA, FR lists nor Harrys setup when you forward, you risk breakage, only you can deal with this. On 20/04/2023 22:08, White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[AEGIS] via users wrote: Sorrry. Mixing up lists Received: from BL0GCC02FT027.eop-gcc02.prod.protection.outlook.com (2a01:111:f400:7d05::201) by CY4PR09CA0046.outlook.office365.com (2603:10b6:903:c0::32) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.6319.25 via Frontend Transport; Thu, 20 Apr 2023 11:50:41 + Authentication-Results: spf=fail (sender IP is 63.88.93.251) <-- smtp.mailfrom=thelounge.net; dkim=none (message not signed) <-- header.d=none;dmarc=none action=none header.from=thelounge.net;compauth=fail reason=001 Received-SPF: Fail (protection.outlook.com: domain of thelounge.net does not designate 63.88.93.251 as permitted sender) receiver=protection.outlook.com; client-ip=63.88.93.251; helo=vsmtpx-e100-03.localdomain; From: Reindl Harald Organization: the lounge interactive design Date: Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 07:50 To: Daniel White , "users@spamassassin.apache.org" Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Mailing list is being Spam Filtered by O-365 Am 20.04.23 um 13:47 schrieb White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[AEGIS] via users: How about this: how about realize that "@lists.freeradius.org" has nothing to do with "@spamassassin.apache.org"? Received: from BL0GCC02FT019.eop-gcc02.prod.protection.outlook.com (2a01:111:f400:7d05::201) by CYXPR09CA0020.outlook.office365.com (2603:10b6:930:d4::27) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.6319.25 via Frontend Transport; Thu, 20 Apr 2023 11:27:54 + Authentication-Results: spf=fail (sender IP is 63.88.93.251) <- smtp.mailfrom=lists.freeradius.org; dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none;dmarc=fail action=oreject header.from=lists.freeradius.org;compauth=none reason=452 Received-SPF: Fail (protection.outlook.com: domain of lists.freeradius.org <- does not designate 63.88.93.251 as permitted sender) receiver=protection.outlook.com; client-ip=63.88.93.251; helo=vsmtpx-e100-01.localdomain; From: Reindl Harald mailto:h.rei...@thelounge.net>> Organization: the lounge interactive design Date: Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 07:36 Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Mailing list is being Spam Filtered by O-365 Am 20.04.23 um 13:20 schrieb White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[AEGIS] via users: Is there any chance that SPF and DKIM records could be added to appear in the headers ? what makes you believe that SPF is part of mail-headers? dig +short TXT spamassassin.apache.org; "spf2.0/pra ?all" "v=spf1 include:_spf.apache.org -all" Received-SPF: Pass (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom;
Re: Mailing list is being Spam Filtered by O-365
Oh, same IP again in this message, you are forwarding your mail via verizon business aren't you, no, there is nothing wrong with SA, FR lists nor Harrys setup when you forward, you risk breakage, only you can deal with this. On 20/04/2023 22:08, White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[AEGIS] via users wrote: Sorrry. Mixing up lists Received: from BL0GCC02FT027.eop-gcc02.prod.protection.outlook.com (2a01:111:f400:7d05::201) by CY4PR09CA0046.outlook.office365.com (2603:10b6:903:c0::32) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.6319.25 via Frontend Transport; Thu, 20 Apr 2023 11:50:41 + Authentication-Results: spf=fail (sender IP is 63.88.93.251) ß smtp.mailfrom=thelounge.net; dkim=none (message not signed) ß header.d=none;dmarc=none action=none header.from=thelounge.net;compauth=fail reason=001 Received-SPF: Fail (protection.outlook.com: domain of thelounge.net does not designate 63.88.93.251 as permitted sender) receiver=protection.outlook.com; client-ip=63.88.93.251; helo=vsmtpx-e100-03.localdomain; __ Daniel E. White daniel.e.wh...@nasa.gov NASCOM Linux Engineer NASA Goddard Space Flight Center Office: (301) 286-6919 Mobile: (240) 513-5290 From: Reindl Harald Organization: the lounge interactive design Date: Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 07:50 To: Daniel White , "users@spamassassin.apache.org" Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Mailing list is being Spam Filtered by O-365 CAUTION: This email originated from outside of NASA. Please take care when clicking links or opening attachments. Use the "Report Message" button to report suspicious messages to the NASA SOC. Am 20.04.23 um 13:47 schrieb White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[AEGIS] via users: How about this: how about realize that "@lists.freeradius.org" has nothing to do with "@spamassassin.apache.org"? Received: from BL0GCC02FT019.eop-gcc02.prod.protection.outlook.com (2a01:111:f400:7d05::201) by CYXPR09CA0020.outlook.office365.com (2603:10b6:930:d4::27) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.6319.25 via Frontend Transport; Thu, 20 Apr 2023 11:27:54 + Authentication-Results: spf=fail (sender IP is 63.88.93.251) <- smtp.mailfrom=lists.freeradius.org; dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none;dmarc=fail action=oreject header.from=lists.freeradius.org;compauth=none reason=452 Received-SPF: Fail (protection.outlook.com: domain of lists.freeradius.org <- does not designate 63.88.93.251 as permitted sender) receiver=protection.outlook.com; client-ip=63.88.93.251; helo=vsmtpx-e100-01.localdomain; From: Reindl Harald Organization: the lounge interactive design Date: Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 07:36 Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Mailing list is being Spam Filtered by O-365 Am 20.04.23 um 13:20 schrieb White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[AEGIS] via users: Is there any chance that SPF and DKIM records could be added to appear in the headers ? what makes you believe that SPF is part of mail-headers? dig +short TXT spamassassin.apache.org; "spf2.0/pra ?all" "v=spf1 include:_spf.apache.org -all" Received-SPF: Pass (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=3.227.148.255; helo=mxout1-ec2-va.apache.org -- Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore at all times remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate this message without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message.
Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Mailing list is being Spam Filtered by O-365
That is not a freeradius.org server that I can see, completely different network even... /var/mail/corp/n/o/e/noel.butler/Maildir/.Lists.FreeRadius/cur# grep "63.88.93.251" * | wc -l 0 Messages in folder 28047 CC'd F/R ML since you also posting this issue over there On 20/04/2023 21:47, White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[AEGIS] via users wrote: How about this: Received: from BL0GCC02FT019.eop-gcc02.prod.protection.outlook.com (2a01:111:f400:7d05::201) by CYXPR09CA0020.outlook.office365.com (2603:10b6:930:d4::27) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.6319.25 via Frontend Transport; Thu, 20 Apr 2023 11:27:54 + Authentication-Results: spf=fail (sender IP is 63.88.93.251) <- smtp.mailfrom=lists.freeradius.org; dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none;dmarc=fail action=oreject header.from=lists.freeradius.org;compauth=none reason=452 Received-SPF: Fail (protection.outlook.com: domain of lists.freeradius.org <- does not designate 63.88.93.251 as permitted sender) receiver=protection.outlook.com; client-ip=63.88.93.251; helo=vsmtpx-e100-01.localdomain; -- Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore at all times remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate this message without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message.
Re: Mailing list is being Spam Filtered by O-365
Sorrry. Mixing up lists Received: from BL0GCC02FT027.eop-gcc02.prod.protection.outlook.com (2a01:111:f400:7d05::201) by CY4PR09CA0046.outlook.office365.com (2603:10b6:903:c0::32) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.6319.25 via Frontend Transport; Thu, 20 Apr 2023 11:50:41 + Authentication-Results: spf=fail (sender IP is 63.88.93.251) <-- smtp.mailfrom=thelounge.net; dkim=none (message not signed) <-- header.d=none;dmarc=none action=none header.from=thelounge.net;compauth=fail reason=001 Received-SPF: Fail (protection.outlook.com: domain of thelounge.net does not designate 63.88.93.251 as permitted sender) receiver=protection.outlook.com; client-ip=63.88.93.251; helo=vsmtpx-e100-03.localdomain; __ Daniel E. White daniel.e.wh...@nasa.gov<mailto:daniel.e.wh...@nasa.gov> NASCOM Linux Engineer NASA Goddard Space Flight Center Office: (301) 286-6919 Mobile: (240) 513-5290 From: Reindl Harald Organization: the lounge interactive design Date: Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 07:50 To: Daniel White , "users@spamassassin.apache.org" Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Mailing list is being Spam Filtered by O-365 CAUTION: This email originated from outside of NASA. Please take care when clicking links or opening attachments. Use the "Report Message" button to report suspicious messages to the NASA SOC. Am 20.04.23 um 13:47 schrieb White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[AEGIS] via users: How about this: how about realize that "@lists.freeradius.org" has nothing to do with "@spamassassin.apache.org"? Received: from BL0GCC02FT019.eop-gcc02.prod.protection.outlook.com (2a01:111:f400:7d05::201) by CYXPR09CA0020.outlook.office365.com (2603:10b6:930:d4::27) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.6319.25 via Frontend Transport; Thu, 20 Apr 2023 11:27:54 + Authentication-Results: spf=fail (sender IP is 63.88.93.251) <- smtp.mailfrom=lists.freeradius.org; dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none;dmarc=fail action=oreject header.from=lists.freeradius.org;compauth=none reason=452 Received-SPF: Fail (protection.outlook.com: domain of lists.freeradius.org <- does not designate 63.88.93.251 as permitted sender) receiver=protection.outlook.com; client-ip=63.88.93.251; helo=vsmtpx-e100-01.localdomain; From: Reindl Harald mailto:h.rei...@thelounge.net>> Organization: the lounge interactive design Date: Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 07:36 Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Mailing list is being Spam Filtered by O-365 Am 20.04.23 um 13:20 schrieb White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[AEGIS] via users: Is there any chance that SPF and DKIM records could be added to appear in the headers ? what makes you believe that SPF is part of mail-headers? dig +short TXT spamassassin.apache.org; "spf2.0/pra ?all" "v=spf1 include:_spf.apache.org -all" Received-SPF: Pass (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=3.227.148.255; helo=mxout1-ec2-va.apache.org
Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Mailing list is being Spam Filtered by O-365
How about this: Received: from BL0GCC02FT019.eop-gcc02.prod.protection.outlook.com (2a01:111:f400:7d05::201) by CYXPR09CA0020.outlook.office365.com (2603:10b6:930:d4::27) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.6319.25 via Frontend Transport; Thu, 20 Apr 2023 11:27:54 + Authentication-Results: spf=fail (sender IP is 63.88.93.251) <- smtp.mailfrom=lists.freeradius.org; dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none;dmarc=fail action=oreject header.from=lists.freeradius.org;compauth=none reason=452 Received-SPF: Fail (protection.outlook.com: domain of lists.freeradius.org <- does not designate 63.88.93.251 as permitted sender) receiver=protection.outlook.com; client-ip=63.88.93.251; helo=vsmtpx-e100-01.localdomain; > From: Reindl Harald > Organization: the lounge interactive design > Date: Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 07:36 > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Mailing list is being Spam Filtered by O-365 > > Am 20.04.23 um 13:20 schrieb White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[AEGIS] via users: > > Is there any chance that SPF and DKIM records could be added to appear in > > the headers ? > what makes you believe that SPF is part of mail-headers? > dig +short TXT spamassassin.apache.org; > "spf2.0/pra ?all" > "v=spf1 include:_spf.apache.org -all" > > Received-SPF: Pass (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; > client-ip=3.227.148.255; helo=mxout1-ec2-va.apache.org >
Re: Mailing list is being Spam Filtered by O-365
On 20.04.23 11:20, White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[AEGIS] via users wrote: Is there any chance that SPF and DKIM records could be added to appear in the headers ? The gubba-mint folks are getting extremely medieval about email security. SPF is only a DNS issue. DKIM headers, yes, you should sign your outgoing mail with DKIM. -- Matus UHLAR - fantomas, uh...@fantomas.sk ; http://www.fantomas.sk/ Warning: I wish NOT to receive e-mail advertising to this address. Varovanie: na tuto adresu chcem NEDOSTAVAT akukolvek reklamnu postu. Micro$oft random number generator: 0, 0, 0, 4.33e+67, 0, 0, 0...
