Re: ***UNCHECKED*** Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-17 Thread Niamh Holding

Hello Noel,

Monday, November 17, 2014, 1:42:35 AM, you wrote:

NB In the context you quote - yes,
NB but upon reading Harry's original -  *no*  it was not condescending (and he 
made a valid point)

Been more tactful to make it a day earlier when I pondered-

I'm tempted to try-

yum install Mail-SPF, but all the differing advice here has made me wary.

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Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-16 Thread Niamh Holding

Hello Niamh,

Saturday, November 15, 2014, 1:43:47 PM, you wrote:

NH yum install Mail-SPF, but all the differing advice here has made me wary.

No package Mail-SPF available.

But

http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/epel/6/x86_64/perl-Mail-SPF-2.8.0-2.el6.noarch.rpm


 Installing : perl-Mail-SPF-2.8.0-2.el6.noarch
  Verifying  : perl-Mail-SPF-2.8.0-2.el6.noarch

Installed:
  perl-Mail-SPF.noarch 0:2.8.0-2.el6

Complete!

Now for the other missing modules

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Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-16 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 16.11.2014 um 19:14 schrieb Niamh Holding:

Saturday, November 15, 2014, 1:43:47 PM, you wrote:

NH yum install Mail-SPF, but all the differing advice here has made me wary.

No package Mail-SPF available.


don't get me wrong but you need first to learn how to operate your OS 
because you can't expect a wrong package name to be solved, frankly you 
see the correct one in the link below


[root@localhost:~]$ yum search perl | grep -i spf
perl-Mail-SPF.noarch : Object-oriented implementation of Sender Policy 
Framework


so yum install perl-Mail-SPF would have worked


But

http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/epel/6/x86_64/perl-Mail-SPF-2.8.0-2.el6.noarch.rpm


  Installing : perl-Mail-SPF-2.8.0-2.el6.noarch
  Verifying  : perl-Mail-SPF-2.8.0-2.el6.noarch

Installed:
   perl-Mail-SPF.noarch 0:2.8.0-2.el6

Complete!

Now for the other missing modules




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Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-16 Thread Niamh Holding

Hello Reindl,

Sunday, November 16, 2014, 6:19:03 PM, you wrote:

RH don't get me wrong but you need first to learn how to operate your OS

Condescending or what?

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Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-16 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 16.11.2014 um 19:49 schrieb Niamh Holding:

Hello Reindl,

Sunday, November 16, 2014, 6:19:03 PM, you wrote:

RH don't get me wrong but you need first to learn how to operate your OS

Condescending or what?


no, otherwise i would have not posted the yum command how to search perl 
packages (which you stripped from the quote) or would have noted in a 
condescending way that you even had the correct package name in your own 
post after manual download


frankly i try to help you learn to help yourself on a sunday afternoon

download packages you can have with a yum command via http bypasses any 
security (MITM as well as no gpg check otherwise happens in context of yum)




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Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-16 Thread Niamh Holding

Hello Reindl,

Sunday, November 16, 2014, 6:54:05 PM, you wrote:

RH download packages you can have with a yum command via http bypasses any 
RH security (MITM as well as no gpg check otherwise happens in context of yum)

That's Axb told!

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Re: ***UNCHECKED*** Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-16 Thread Noel Butler
 

On 17/11/2014 04:49, Niamh Holding wrote: 

 WARNING: contains undecipherable part

RH don't get me wrong but you need first to learn how to operate your OS 

Condescending or what? 

In the context you quote - yes, 

but upon reading Harry's original - *no* it was not condescending (and
he made a valid point) 

 

Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-15 Thread Niamh Holding
Hello Reindl,

Friday, November 14, 2014, 7:51:23 PM, you wrote:

 install the epel-release package on CentOS - i would call that repo 
 mandatory and it *never* collides with the base-repos

repo id
base
epel
extras
rpmforge
updates

So back to yum to install?

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Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-15 Thread Reindl Harald



Am 15.11.2014 um 09:59 schrieb Niamh Holding:

Hello Reindl,

Friday, November 14, 2014, 7:51:23 PM, you wrote:


install the epel-release package on CentOS - i would call that repo
mandatory and it *never* collides with the base-repos


repo id
base
epel
extras
rpmforge
updates

So back to yum to install?


in case of packages you need and available yes!

* only download them and install by rpm without
  have the repo enabled will not update them in
  the future until you do by hand

* if you have the repo enabled there is no point
  in download and use rpm instead yum and even
  if you download RPM's just use yum localinstall
  to slove dependencies if possible

please read that package careful!
http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories/




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Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-15 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas

On 15.11.14 10:09, Reindl Harald wrote:

in case of packages you need and available yes!

* only download them and install by rpm without
 have the repo enabled will not update them in
 the future until you do by hand

* if you have the repo enabled there is no point
 in download and use rpm instead yum and even
 if you download RPM's just use yum localinstall
 to slove dependencies if possible

please read that package careful!
http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories/


oh yes, security updates are for dummies...
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Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-15 Thread Niamh Holding
Hello Axb,

Friday, November 14, 2014, 7:32:17 PM, you wrote:

 What's the requiremenet?

 What does Perl Makefile.PL ask for?

The output of perl Makefile.PL is in the root message, for example-

NOTE: the optional Mail::SPF module is not installed.

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Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-15 Thread Niamh Holding
Hello Axb,

Saturday, November 15, 2014, 11:21:51 AM, you wrote:

 By now, I assume you've solved the problem

Well...

I'm tempted to try-

yum install Mail-SPF, but all the differing advice here has made me wary.

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Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-14 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas

On 13.11.14 14:34, Giles Coochey wrote:
I avoid the distribution perl completely, and use perlbrew and 
spamassassin 3.4.0 compiled from source, with a specific perlbrew 
perl version I avoid breaking the version of perl that comes with the 
system and can satisfy all dependencies via CPAN.


how do you solve cases when any package from distribution needs perl or any
of its modules?


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Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-14 Thread Giles Coochey

On 14/11/2014 11:26, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:

On 13.11.14 14:34, Giles Coochey wrote:
I avoid the distribution perl completely, and use perlbrew and 
spamassassin 3.4.0 compiled from source, with a specific perlbrew 
perl version I avoid breaking the version of perl that comes with the 
system and can satisfy all dependencies via CPAN.


how do you solve cases when any package from distribution needs perl 
or any

of its modules?


perlbrew (http://perlbrew.pl/) doesn't replace the system perl, it 
installs a different perl to a different path. You can run many 
different perl versions on the same system, but in any environment only 
one is active.


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Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-14 Thread Niamh Holding
Hello Axb,

Thursday, November 13, 2014, 2:21:44 PM, you wrote:

 If you need need extra modules which are not provided by Centos go to
 http://pkgs.repoforge.org/

Just looking, so don't shoot me but

http://pkgs.repoforge.org/perl-Mail-SPF/

has nothing listed later than CentOS 5

PS I hate hotmail!

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Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-14 Thread Axb

On 11/14/2014 08:18 PM, Niamh Holding wrote:

Hello Axb,

Thursday, November 13, 2014, 2:21:44 PM, you wrote:


If you need need extra modules which are not provided by Centos go to
http://pkgs.repoforge.org/


Just looking, so don't shoot me but

http://pkgs.repoforge.org/perl-Mail-SPF/

has nothing listed later than CentOS 5


Now I'll be tarred and feathered by the rest :)

I don't use SA's SPF stuff so you caught me here...

My repoforge suggestion was mainly for Centos 5.x

I'd go for

http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/epel/6/x86_64/perl-Mail-SPF-2.8.0-2.el6.noarch.rpm

It installs without extra dependencies and plays nice with the C6 Core 
modules


Anybody else got a better suggestion?





Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-14 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 14.11.2014 um 20:44 schrieb Axb:

I don't use SA's SPF stuff so you caught me here...

My repoforge suggestion was mainly for Centos 5.x

I'd go for

http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/epel/6/x86_64/perl-Mail-SPF-2.8.0-2.el6.noarch.rpm

It installs without extra dependencies and plays nice with the C6 Core
modules

Anybody else got a better suggestion?


install the epel-release package on CentOS - i would call that repo 
mandatory and it *never* collides with the base-repos


https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL



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Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Axb

On 11/13/2014 03:09 PM, Niamh Holding wrote:

OS CentOS 6.4


6.4 is old - centos 6.6
(do you seriously make a point of running old versions?)


yum only offers  3.3.1-3.el6


forget SA from YUM /Distro packages. - it ties you to, as Benny sez, 
precompiled problems :)



So I'm building 3.4.0 from source but Makefile.PL reports missing
moduiles, should these be installed from CPAN?


*NO! hands off CPAN!!!*

do you need ipV6 support? (probably not)

build as is and get basic filtering to start with

the extra modules you can add later...
If you need need extra modules which are not provided by Centos go to
http://pkgs.repoforge.org/

and

yum install http://path-to-rpm/version-rpm




Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas

On 13.11.14 14:09, Niamh Holding wrote:

OS CentOS 6.4

yum only offers  3.3.1-3.el6

So I'm building 3.4.0 from source but Makefile.PL reports missing
moduiles, should these be installed from CPAN?


...via yum, whenever possible

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Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas

On 11/13/2014 03:09 PM, Niamh Holding wrote:

OS CentOS 6.4


6.4 is old - centos 6.6
(do you seriously make a point of running old versions?)


yum only offers  3.3.1-3.el6


On 13.11.14 15:21, Axb wrote:
forget SA from YUM /Distro packages. - it ties you to, as Benny sez, 
precompiled problems :)


then he should forget CentOS and use LFS as Benny does...

such distributions are here to avoid the dependency hell Niamh already ran
into when he build SA from CPAN...

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Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Giles Coochey

On 13/11/2014 14:21, Axb wrote:

On 11/13/2014 03:09 PM, Niamh Holding wrote:

OS CentOS 6.4


6.4 is old - centos 6.6
(do you seriously make a point of running old versions?)


yum only offers  3.3.1-3.el6


forget SA from YUM /Distro packages. - it ties you to, as Benny sez, 
precompiled problems :)



So I'm building 3.4.0 from source but Makefile.PL reports missing
moduiles, should these be installed from CPAN?


*NO! hands off CPAN!!!*

do you need ipV6 support? (probably not)

build as is and get basic filtering to start with

the extra modules you can add later...
If you need need extra modules which are not provided by Centos go to
http://pkgs.repoforge.org/

and

yum install http://path-to-rpm/version-rpm


I avoid the distribution perl completely, and use perlbrew and 
spamassassin 3.4.0 compiled from source, with a specific perlbrew perl 
version I avoid breaking the version of perl that comes with the system 
and can satisfy all dependencies via CPAN.


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Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 13.11.2014 um 15:21 schrieb Axb:

On 11/13/2014 03:09 PM, Niamh Holding wrote:

OS CentOS 6.4


6.4 is old - centos 6.6
(do you seriously make a point of running old versions?)


yum only offers  3.3.1-3.el6


forget SA from YUM /Distro packages. - it ties you to, as Benny sez,
precompiled problems :)


bad advise, in you are doing that throw away CentOS and just use Fedora, 
it has at least recent SA packages and a recent userland make 
upgrades/builds in the future easier


grab the src.rpm, replace the tarball with the recent and take this as 
starting point - frankly that way you get first the list of all missing 
BuildRequires and at the end a recent SA RPM package with clear deps 
and a clean system


doing that for apache, mysql, php, postfix, dovecot, dbmail, 
mod_security and a lot of other packages for many years to override 
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Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Axb

On 11/13/2014 03:35 PM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:

On 11/13/2014 03:09 PM, Niamh Holding wrote:

OS CentOS 6.4


6.4 is old - centos 6.6
(do you seriously make a point of running old versions?)


yum only offers  3.3.1-3.el6


On 13.11.14 15:21, Axb wrote:

forget SA from YUM /Distro packages. - it ties you to, as Benny sez,
precompiled problems :)


then he should forget CentOS and use LFS as Benny does...

such distributions are here to avoid the dependency hell Niamh already
ran
into when he build SA from CPAN...



installing SA from source has never been a problem with Centos, as long 
as you don't mix with an older rpm setup.
It's safe practice to get the extra SINGEL packages from repoforge which 
has never caused issues with Centos.


It's the CPAN console which causes dependency hell.







Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Axb

On 11/13/2014 03:34 PM, Giles Coochey wrote:



I avoid the distribution perl completely, and use perlbrew and
spamassassin 3.4.0 compiled from source, with a specific perlbrew perl
version I avoid breaking the version of perl that comes with the system
and can satisfy all dependencies via CPAN.


becuase you know what you're doingit works for you, d'ya now what I 
mean?


Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Kevin A. McGrail

On 11/13/2014 9:51 AM, Axb wrote:

On 11/13/2014 03:34 PM, Giles Coochey wrote:



I avoid the distribution perl completely, and use perlbrew and
spamassassin 3.4.0 compiled from source, with a specific perlbrew perl
version I avoid breaking the version of perl that comes with the system
and can satisfy all dependencies via CPAN.


becuase you know what you're doingit works for you, d'ya now what 
I mean?
I disagree. I often tell people to put a screwdriver near the server and 
convince it you will dismantle it AND you don't know how to rebuild it.


Keeps the server on it's toes far better than if it thinks we know what 
we're doing...


Regards,
KAM


Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Axb

On 11/13/2014 03:42 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:


Am 13.11.2014 um 15:21 schrieb Axb:

On 11/13/2014 03:09 PM, Niamh Holding wrote:

OS CentOS 6.4


6.4 is old - centos 6.6
(do you seriously make a point of running old versions?)


yum only offers  3.3.1-3.el6


forget SA from YUM /Distro packages. - it ties you to, as Benny sez,
precompiled problems :)


bad advise, in you are doing that throw away CentOS and just use Fedora,
it has at least recent SA packages and a recent userland make
upgrades/builds in the future easier

grab the src.rpm, replace the tarball with the recent and take this as
starting point - frankly that way you get first the list of all missing
BuildRequires and at the end a recent SA RPM package with clear deps
and a clean system

doing that for apache, mysql, php, postfix, dovecot, dbmail,
mod_security and a lot of other packages for many years to override
distro packages without break the system over time



blah, blah, blah... I'm trying to save the guy's ass so he gets a 
working server with least effort and you're suggesting he change distro, 
make RPMs when he already has trouble deciding if optional packages ar 
required or not? Lets be real...


Pls stay in your hole and allow me to get this guy off this thread.


Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 13.11.2014 um 15:55 schrieb Axb:

On 11/13/2014 03:42 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:

Am 13.11.2014 um 15:21 schrieb Axb:

On 11/13/2014 03:09 PM, Niamh Holding wrote:

OS CentOS 6.4


6.4 is old - centos 6.6
(do you seriously make a point of running old versions?)


yum only offers  3.3.1-3.el6


forget SA from YUM /Distro packages. - it ties you to, as Benny sez,
precompiled problems :)


bad advise, in you are doing that throw away CentOS and just use Fedora,
it has at least recent SA packages and a recent userland make
upgrades/builds in the future easier

grab the src.rpm, replace the tarball with the recent and take this as
starting point - frankly that way you get first the list of all missing
BuildRequires and at the end a recent SA RPM package with clear deps
and a clean system

doing that for apache, mysql, php, postfix, dovecot, dbmail,
mod_security and a lot of other packages for many years to override
distro packages without break the system over time


blah, blah, blah... I'm trying to save the guy's ass so he gets a
working server with least effort


least effort *now* but in 3 years on that machine...


and you're suggesting he change distro


no, i just said if you bypass the package management, bring manual 
downloaded packages from unsafe 3rd party repos if you enable them 
unconditional in the mix youre defeating the whole purpose of RHEL



make RPMs when he already has trouble deciding if optional packages ar
required or not? Lets be real...


rebuild the src.rpm with a new tarball answers that question because it 
specifies dependecies, even for the build itself



Pls stay in your hole


wow


and allow me to get this guy off this thread


so allow me to make clear that bypass the package managagement over the 
long may not be a good idea - building a RPM the first time may take 
longer but it keeps your setup maintainable for many years


there is a difference between *you* as upstream developer knowing all 
the pieces, dependencies and programming language very well and a 
ordinary enduser




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Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Niamh Holding
Hello Axb,

Thursday, November 13, 2014, 2:21:44 PM, you wrote:

 (do you seriously make a point of running old versions?)

If it ain't broke don't mess with it!

Given that the other server is now dead after the suggested yum update :(

Dead as in booting up from a spare disk in the raid assay which seems to
be abot 2 years out of date, it's on its way back from the data centre.

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Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Axb

On 11/13/2014 04:22 PM, Niamh Holding wrote:

Hello Axb,

Thursday, November 13, 2014, 2:21:44 PM, you wrote:


(do you seriously make a point of running old versions?)


If it ain't broke don't mess with it!


what about security updates?


Given that the other server is now dead after the suggested yum update :(
Dead as in booting up from a spare disk in the raid assay which seems to
be abot 2 years out of date, it's on its way back from the data centre.


Dead as box on autopilot for as long as luck is with you...
A spare array disk should only be a crutch till you replace the original 
disk..  simple BCP.


Whatever...



Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Axb

On 11/13/2014 04:17 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:


least effort *now* but in 3 years on that machine...


that gives the victim enough time to learn the process and apply to a 
new setup...



and you're suggesting he change distro

no, i just said if you bypass the package management, bring manual
downloaded packages from unsafe 3rd party repos if you enable them
unconditional in the mix youre defeating the whole purpose of RHEL


afaik, repoforge is far from unsafe - they have never broken a Centos 
setup and don't add extra dependemncies as some other repos do.



make RPMs when he already has trouble deciding if optional packages ar
required or not? Lets be real...


rebuild the src.rpm with a new tarball answers that question because it
specifies dependecies, even for the build itself


at this point, this is way too complicated to do as a hand holding job 
over a mailing list.




so allow me to make clear that bypass the package managagement over the
long may not be a good idea - building a RPM the first time may take
longer but it keeps your setup maintainable for many years


I see your point, but I don't think it's the right moment to sugest a 
change in strategy...



there is a difference between *you* as upstream developer knowing all
the pieces, dependencies and programming language very well and a
ordinary enduser


I'm an ordinary end user - my advice was given based on what I know 
works with least long term pain and least steep learning curve.
We don't have to argue or agree on some strategy, we just need to finish 
a hand holding job so the lady can start a weekend knowing the box is 
tagging spam.








Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Niamh Holding
Hello Axb,

Thursday, November 13, 2014, 3:40:53 PM, you wrote:

 the lady can start a weekend knowing the box is 
 tagging spam.

First I have to get the damned ISP to stop blocking port 53 so the world
knows where to send the spam.

Most of yesterday was spent trying to work out why DNS was working from
the LAN but not outside; tests established that the DNS requests weren't
reaching the Zywall here so I innocently asked if there was upstream
blocking of port 53 No was the replay at first this morning and only
later did try admit that they were in fact blocking.

But an ISP's system policies are not really for this list.

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Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Niamh Holding
Hello Axb,

Thursday, November 13, 2014, 3:29:00 PM, you wrote:

 what about security updates?

Bash and ssl were addressed when announced.

 A spare array disk should only be a crutch till you replace the original
 disk..  simple BCP.

It's not a crutch it's booting up to how the server was 2 years ago..
That's why the server is on its way home.

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Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Benny Pedersen

On November 13, 2014 3:55:05 PM Axb axb.li...@gmail.com wrote:


Pls stay in your hole and allow me to get this guy off this thread.


http://www.centos.org/ seem centos 7 is there now, but its still a problem 
if there is no maintainers of spamassassin there, rule updates with iso 
files, hmm


Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Niamh Holding
Hello Benny,

Thursday, November 13, 2014, 4:29:32 PM, you wrote:

 if there is no maintainers of spamassassin there

That's why I build from source, I'm not aware od a 3.4.0 rpm either.

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Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread John Hardin

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
I disagree. I often tell people to put a screwdriver near the server and 
convince it you will dismantle it AND you don't know how to rebuild it.


Keeps the server on it's toes far better than if it thinks we know what we're 
doing...


That and put your photo in the case so it thinks you're watching it.

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Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Niamh Holding
Hello Axb,

Thursday, November 13, 2014, 5:45:02 PM, you wrote:

 sometimes a small hint can save time and frustration...

 are you nearly there by now?

Looks not to bad, even if for reasons stated I can only test from within
the LAN-

Nov 13 18:24:21 magnesium spamd[21634]: spamd: connection from ::1 [::1]:45893 
to port 783, fd 6
Nov 13 18:24:21 magnesium spamd[21634]: spamd: setuid to spamtest succeeded
Nov 13 18:24:21 magnesium spamd[21634]: spamd: processing message 
12110257802.20141113182...@niamh.org.uk for spamtest:1028
Nov 13 18:24:21 magnesium spamd[21634]: spamd: clean message (-2.0/4.5) for 
spamtest:1028 in 0.2 seconds, 918 bytes.
Nov 13 18:24:21 magnesium spamd[21634]: spamd: result: . -2 - BAYES_00 
scantime=0.2,size=918,user=spamtest,uid=1028,required_score=4.5,rhost=::1,raddr=::1,rport=45893,mid=12110257802.20141113182...@niamh.org.uk,bayes=0.00,autolearn=unavailable
 autolearn_force=no
Nov 13 18:24:21 magnesium spamd[21625]: prefork: child states: II

Though spamassassin doesn't currently appear in the chkconfig --list

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Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 13.11.2014 um 19:26 schrieb Niamh Holding:

Though spamassassin doesn't currently appear in the chkconfig --list


chkconfig --add spamassassin

[harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ chkconfig --help
chkconfig Version 1.3.63 - Copyright (C) 1997-2008 Red Hat, Inc.
Kostenlose Weitergabe unter den Bedingungen der GNU Public License erlaubt.

Aufruf:  chkconfig [--list] [--type type] [name]
 chkconfig --add Name
 chkconfig --del Name
 chkconfig --override Name
 chkconfig [--level levels] [--type type] Name 
on|off|reset|resetpriorities




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Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Axb

On 11/13/2014 07:26 PM, Niamh Holding wrote:

Hello Axb,

Thursday, November 13, 2014, 5:45:02 PM, you wrote:


sometimes a small hint can save time and frustration...



are you nearly there by now?


Looks not to bad, even if for reasons stated I can only test from within
the LAN-

Nov 13 18:24:21 magnesium spamd[21634]: spamd: connection from ::1 [::1]:45893 
to port 783, fd 6
Nov 13 18:24:21 magnesium spamd[21634]: spamd: setuid to spamtest succeeded
Nov 13 18:24:21 magnesium spamd[21634]: spamd: processing message 
12110257802.20141113182...@niamh.org.uk for spamtest:1028
Nov 13 18:24:21 magnesium spamd[21634]: spamd: clean message (-2.0/4.5) for 
spamtest:1028 in 0.2 seconds, 918 bytes.
Nov 13 18:24:21 magnesium spamd[21634]: spamd: result: . -2 - BAYES_00 
scantime=0.2,size=918,user=spamtest,uid=1028,required_score=4.5,rhost=::1,raddr=::1,rport=45893,mid=12110257802.20141113182...@niamh.org.uk,bayes=0.00,autolearn=unavailable
 autolearn_force=no
Nov 13 18:24:21 magnesium spamd[21625]: prefork: child states: II

Though spamassassin doesn't currently appear in the chkconfig --list


what are you using as glue between your MTA and SA?
or are you using procmail?
(If you once mentioned it, I can't find it)



Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Niamh Holding
Hello Axb,

Thursday, November 13, 2014, 6:33:35 PM, you wrote:

 or are you using procmail?

Yep

:0fw spamassassin.lock
*  512000
| /usr/local/bin/spamc -u spamtest
# | /usr/local/bin/spamassassin
# All mail with a score 10 is dumped to /dev/null
:0
* ^X-Spam-Level: \*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*
/dev/null

# All mail tagged as spam (eg. with a score higher than the set threshold)
# is forwarded to s...@fullbore.com
:0
* ^X-Spam-Status: Yes
! s...@fullbore.co.uk

# Work around procmail bug: any output on stderr will cause the F in From
# to be dropped.  This will re-add it.
:0
* ^^rom[ ]
{
  LOG=*** Dropped F off From_ header! Fixing up. 

  :0 fhw
  | sed -e '1s/^/F/'
}

-- 
Best regards,
 Holtainmailto:holt...@hotmail.com



Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Axb

On 11/13/2014 07:50 PM, Niamh Holding wrote:

Hello Axb,

Thursday, November 13, 2014, 6:33:35 PM, you wrote:


or are you using procmail?


Yep

:0fw spamassassin.lock
*  512000
| /usr/local/bin/spamc -u spamtest
# | /usr/local/bin/spamassassin
# All mail with a score 10 is dumped to /dev/null
:0
* ^X-Spam-Level: \*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*
/dev/null

# All mail tagged as spam (eg. with a score higher than the set threshold)
# is forwarded to s...@fullbore.com
:0
* ^X-Spam-Status: Yes
! s...@fullbore.co.uk

# Work around procmail bug: any output on stderr will cause the F in From
# to be dropped.  This will re-add it.
:0
* ^^rom[ ]
{
   LOG=*** Dropped F off From_ header! Fixing up. 

   :0 fhw
   | sed -e '1s/^/F/'
}



so spamd is running?
Something started it so now you gotta find it to make sure you can 
stop/start the service if required.






Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Niamh Holding
Hello Axb,

Thursday, November 13, 2014, 6:56:05 PM, you wrote:

 so spamd is running?
 Something started it so now you gotta find it to make sure you can 
 stop/start the service if required.

Me started it-

service spamassassin start :)

I had the init scripts in a backup from the main server.

And this works as expected

service spamassassin restart

-- 
Best regards,
 Holtainmailto:holt...@hotmail.com



Re: Missing Modules

2014-11-13 Thread Reindl Harald



Am 13.11.2014 um 20:10 schrieb Niamh Holding:

Hello Axb,

Thursday, November 13, 2014, 6:56:05 PM, you wrote:


so spamd is running?
Something started it so now you gotta find it to make sure you can
stop/start the service if required.


Me started it-

service spamassassin start :)

I had the init scripts in a backup from the main server.

And this works as expected

service spamassassin restart


yes, that is all fine

as said chkconfig --add spamassassin and chkconfig knows about it, 
in case of a RPM install there are scriptlets registering the service at 
install and unregister it at uninstall


without a a package you need to run that command at your own

that's all in that context



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