Re: Multidomain Mailhosting on one physical host

2006-03-05 Thread Michele Neylon:: Blacknight.ie
Benny Pedersen wrote:

 POP-before-SMTP olso works with imap
 
 only bad thing about POP-before-SMTP is that it does not work if 
 POP-before-SMTP user is behind a NAT ip
 
 if a user sits behind NAT it could open relay for more then one user, that 
 the only reason i do not use
 POP-before-SMTP any more
 
POP-before-SMTP can also cause issues for users with slow connections...

SMTP-auth is a lot more reliable

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Re: Multidomain Mailhosting on one physical host

2006-03-04 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Fri, March 3, 2006 18:56, Uwe Kiewel wrote:
 Also (like Kelson said), if you don't want to scan local-domain mail
 at all (NOT something I prefer myself), you can probably configure 
 amavisd-new or Postfix to skip mail from
 these users.

 POPAuth is not prefered, because a lot of clients use IMAP.

POP-before-SMTP olso works with imap

only bad thing about POP-before-SMTP is that it does not work if 
POP-before-SMTP user is behind a NAT ip

if a user sits behind NAT it could open relay for more then one user, that the 
only reason i do not use
POP-before-SMTP any more




Re: Multidomain Mailhosting on one physical host

2006-03-03 Thread Uwe Kiewel
Daryl C. W. O'Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Kelson wrote:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  User Sam and Joe has internet access via DSL with a dynamic ip 
  address. The mail going from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] is 
  identified as SPAM because the sending ip address is the dynamic 
  dial up address.
 
  The best solution would be to make your users send with SMTP-AUTH, 
  and
  then tell whatever calls SpamAssassin to skip SA if it finds valid 
  SMTP-AUTH info.
  
  I'd guess from your description, however, that you're running
  SpamAssassin on delivery and not on receipt, which will probably
make 
  this a bit more challenging.  Though if you can check after the fact
for 
  valid SMTP-AUTH info, you can probably still make it work.
 
 If you can get Postfix to insert RFC 3848 style with ESMTPA tokens 
 or
 Sendmail style authenticated user lines in the headers, SpamAssassin

 will automatically recognize that the user is authenticated (if they 
 authenticate) and not do the dynablock checks.  If anyone knows how to

 do this (I've never used Postfix), I'd like to document it on the
wiki.
 
I think, this is the best way to solve my problem. At first I'll try to
use Nigels solution, to set whitelist-from in SA's local.cf

I hope to find these informations to implement it as soon as posible.

 If you use POP-before-SMTP, there's also the POPAuth plugin available 
 on
 the wiki at: http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/POPAuthPlugin
 
 Also (like Kelson said), if you don't want to scan local-domain mail 
 at
 all (NOT something I prefer myself), you can probably configure 
 amavisd-new or Postfix to skip mail from these users.

POPAuth is not prefered, because a lot of clients use IMAP.

 Regards,
Uwe

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Re: Multidomain Mailhosting on one physical host

2006-03-02 Thread Kelson

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

User Sam and Joe has internet access via DSL with a dynamic ip
address. The mail going from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] is
identified as SPAM because the sending ip address is the dynamic dial
up address.


The solution is twofold:

1) Don't scan outgoing mail for spam, or don't run network tests on 
outgoing mail.
2) Treat mail coming from your users as outgoing, even if it's being 
sent to another domain on your server.


The best solution would be to make your users send with SMTP-AUTH, and 
then tell whatever calls SpamAssassin to skip SA if it finds valid 
SMTP-AUTH info.


I'd guess from your description, however, that you're running 
SpamAssassin on delivery and not on receipt, which will probably make 
this a bit more challenging.  Though if you can check after the fact for 
valid SMTP-AUTH info, you can probably still make it work.


--
Kelson Vibber
SpeedGate Communications www.speed.net


Re: Multidomain Mailhosting on one physical host

2006-03-02 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea

Kelson wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

User Sam and Joe has internet access via DSL with a dynamic ip
address. The mail going from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] is
identified as SPAM because the sending ip address is the dynamic dial
up address.


The best solution would be to make your users send with SMTP-AUTH, and 
then tell whatever calls SpamAssassin to skip SA if it finds valid 
SMTP-AUTH info.


I'd guess from your description, however, that you're running 
SpamAssassin on delivery and not on receipt, which will probably make 
this a bit more challenging.  Though if you can check after the fact for 
valid SMTP-AUTH info, you can probably still make it work.


If you can get Postfix to insert RFC 3848 style with ESMTPA tokens or 
Sendmail style authenticated user lines in the headers, SpamAssassin 
will automatically recognize that the user is authenticated (if they 
authenticate) and not do the dynablock checks.  If anyone knows how to 
do this (I've never used Postfix), I'd like to document it on the wiki.


If you use POP-before-SMTP, there's also the POPAuth plugin available on 
the wiki at: http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/POPAuthPlugin


Also (like Kelson said), if you don't want to scan local-domain mail at 
all (NOT something I prefer myself), you can probably configure 
amavisd-new or Postfix to skip mail from these users.



Daryl



Re: Multidomain Mailhosting on one physical host

2006-03-01 Thread Uwe Kiewel


On Wednesday 01 March 2006 12:21, you wrote:
 Have you tried whitelisting the problem addresses?

 whitelist_from [EMAIL PROTECTED]


In this case, what happens, if a spammer fake the from and use the 
whitelisted address?

Uwe