Re: rule checking environment variable

2008-02-27 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 26.02.08 19:20, Miguel Angel wrote:
 They are getting high score because are using dynamic ip ranges and they 
 match rbl lists.

If you relay mail from your dynamic addresses w/o authentication, they
should be in your trusted_networks. Then they'll get ALL_TRUSTED and
probably DOS_*_TO_MX, unless it's clear that they used SMTP authentication.

Since you mentioned that they are authenticated, those mails probably miss
the auth info, or possibly the SA doesn't use it.

So, it's again about valid auth info in Received: headers.

 On 26.02.08 14:51, Miguel Angel wrote:
 i am using spamassassin 3.2.3 with qmail and simscan, the problem i 
 have it is that my authenticated smtp
 users have any mails rejected because a high score,

 Matus UHLAR - fantomas escribió:
 do they get high score because of the authentication or are they catching
 something like DOX_*_TO_MX?  Proper authentication data in Received:
 headers should make SA know that the client was trusted and not to catch
 that rule...

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Re: rule checking environment variable

2008-02-27 Thread Miguel Angel

On 26.02.08 19:20, Miguel Angel wrote:
They are getting high score because are using dynamic ip ranges and they 
match rbl lists.


If you relay mail from your dynamic addresses w/o authentication, they
should be in your trusted_networks. Then they'll get ALL_TRUSTED and
probably DOS_*_TO_MX, unless it's clear that they used SMTP authentication.

Since you mentioned that they are authenticated, those mails probably miss
the auth info, or possibly the SA doesn't use it.

So, it's again about valid auth info in Received: headers.


On 26.02.08 14:51, Miguel Angel wrote:
   i am using spamassassin 3.2.3 with qmail and simscan, the problem i 
   have it is that my authenticated smtp

users have any mails rejected because a high score,



Matus UHLAR - fantomas escribió:

do they get high score because of the authentication or are they catching
something like DOX_*_TO_MX?  Proper authentication data in Received:
headers should make SA know that the client was trusted and not to catch
that rule...




i have get the solution with simscan, it has an configure option to not scan authenticated smtp sends checking 
an environment variable. Thanks.


Regards,
Miguel Angel.


Re: rule checking environment variable

2008-02-26 Thread Miguel Angel

Rick Macdougall escribió:

Miguel Angel wrote:

Hello,
i am using spamassassin 3.2.3 with qmail and simscan, the problem 
i have it is that my authenticated smtp
users have any mails rejected because a high score, i know i can use 
other ip not listed in mx of the domains
to create a server with required authentication where i should not 
scan for spam (and make my users send with
that) but i would like to search other solution, i would like to 
create a spamassassin rule with a -100 score
that search for an environment variable but i have not found anything 
about that in the
page|wiki|mailing-list, it is that possible to do? when qmail 
authenticate the users adds the variable
SMTP_AUTH_USER so when spamc it is launched from simscan this variable 
should be there yet. I am using now
whitelist_from [EMAIL PROTECTED] but it is not a good idea because many 
spammers change the From address domain

to be the same of the rcpto.



Hi,

The latest versions of simscan will not run spamc on email where 
RELAYCLIENT is set.  This can happen via smtp auth or via tcp.smtp.


You might want to take this over to the simscan mailing list and post 
your ./configure options so we can help you figure out why it is 
scanning smtp auth users.


Regards,

Rick



Hi,

i have read about this in README file (i am using last simscan version) but the way to configure this it is 
changing the tcp.smtp, i am using this smtp to receive mail, it is the mx of many domains, if i desactivate 
simscan on it, i will lost spamassassin and clamav scanning on received mails too. In mailing list of John 
Simpson combined patch to qmail any users says me i should create other smtp server in other ip/port and force 
smtp auth on there, disable spamassassin on it and give it to my users to send mail from it but i would like 
to know if i could avoid that solution.


Regards,
Miguel Angel.


Re: rule checking environment variable

2008-02-26 Thread Rick Macdougall

Miguel Angel wrote:

Hello,
i am using spamassassin 3.2.3 with qmail and simscan, the problem i 
have it is that my authenticated smtp
users have any mails rejected because a high score, i know i can use 
other ip not listed in mx of the domains
to create a server with required authentication where i should not scan 
for spam (and make my users send with
that) but i would like to search other solution, i would like to create 
a spamassassin rule with a -100 score
that search for an environment variable but i have not found anything 
about that in the
page|wiki|mailing-list, it is that possible to do? when qmail 
authenticate the users adds the variable
SMTP_AUTH_USER so when spamc it is launched from simscan this variable 
should be there yet. I am using now
whitelist_from [EMAIL PROTECTED] but it is not a good idea because many 
spammers change the From address domain

to be the same of the rcpto.



Hi,

The latest versions of simscan will not run spamc on email where 
RELAYCLIENT is set.  This can happen via smtp auth or via tcp.smtp.


You might want to take this over to the simscan mailing list and post 
your ./configure options so we can help you figure out why it is 
scanning smtp auth users.


Regards,

Rick



Re: rule checking environment variable

2008-02-26 Thread Rick Macdougall

Miguel Angel wrote:


The latest versions of simscan will not run spamc on email where 
RELAYCLIENT is set.  This can happen via smtp auth or via tcp.smtp.


You might want to take this over to the simscan mailing list and post 
your ./configure options so we can help you figure out why it is 
scanning smtp auth users.


Regards,

Rick



Hi,

i have read about this in README file (i am using last simscan version) 
but the way to configure this it is changing the tcp.smtp, i am using 
this smtp to receive mail, it is the mx of many domains, if i 
desactivate simscan on it, i will lost spamassassin and clamav scanning 
on received mails too. In mailing list of John Simpson combined patch to 
qmail any users says me i should create other smtp server in other 
ip/port and force smtp auth on there, disable spamassassin on it and 
give it to my users to send mail from it but i would like to know if i 
could avoid that solution.




The configuration of simscan is all that is needed.  There are no 
changes to tcp.smtp.


All that will happen with a correctly configured simscan is that email 
from authenticated users will not be run through spamd, it will still be 
run through clamav if configured.


All other email will be scanned as usual.

Regards,

Rick


Re: rule checking environment variable

2008-02-26 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 26.02.08 14:51, Miguel Angel wrote:
 i am using spamassassin 3.2.3 with qmail and simscan, the problem i 
 have it is that my authenticated smtp
 users have any mails rejected because a high score,

do they get high score because of the authentication or are they catching
something like DOX_*_TO_MX? 
Proper authentication data in Received: headers should make SA know that the
client was trusted and not to catch that rule...


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Re: rule checking environment variable

2008-02-26 Thread Miguel Angel

They are getting high score because are using dynamic ip ranges and they match 
rbl lists.

Matus UHLAR - fantomas escribió:

On 26.02.08 14:51, Miguel Angel wrote:
i am using spamassassin 3.2.3 with qmail and simscan, the problem i 
have it is that my authenticated smtp

users have any mails rejected because a high score,


do they get high score because of the authentication or are they catching
something like DOX_*_TO_MX? 
Proper authentication data in Received: headers should make SA know that the

client was trusted and not to catch that rule...